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Since: 21.3.04
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.68
Why do we banish?

I understand this will be banished, but why? Is this web site a communist society? should this be called the USSW (United Soviet Socialist Wiener)?

I am all for hearing stupid comments, this is a wrestling web site. We watch a sport that is not a sport. We watch a soap opera that is not a soap opera. Stupidity is our middle name!

Why not let the stupid speak (me being one of them) and the smart disagree with them? These columns are set up for debate!

If I say Dusty Rhodes is the best wrestler ever, here is a TopTen then someone should debate me! What happens here is a mod banishes my forums or worse deletes it! What is the difference in that and not allowing free speech?

I invited "Parvini" here from OO because they were jerks, now we look like the jerks banishing or deleting everything. Let the fans be heard or you will be just another Vince wanna be! Let us the fans vote, if we like a topic we will commit on it. I have one post that was banished after 18 posts with the line " how did this post get so many responses.." It got so many responses because people were interested in it.

Just because a mod doesn't like a post or poster is no reason to ban someone, until they break an FCC or board rule. TopTen lists are not bad, just a way for the people to express themselves.
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Since: 10.10.02
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.56
Before any other moderator does anything with this, I moved it to Site Feedback. It did not belong in the wrestling folder.

The administrators do not want posts that are nothing but lists. There are plenty of other forums that will allow them.
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Since: 9.12.01
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.07
Dunno who closed the thread, but maybe it's just as well. I'll reopen it after my response.

    Originally posted by TopTenPro
    Why do we banish?


Just in case people need examples of threads that don't belong on this board.


    I understand this will be banished, but why? Is this web site a communist society? should this be called the USSW (United Soviet Socialist Wiener)?


This message board exists at the pleasure of the dictatorship. You are free to apply any ideology you wish but it won't change my opinion that a lot of dumbasses frequent message boards, and I'd just as soon they congregate elsewhere.


    I am all for hearing stupid comments, this is a wrestling web site.


You would be happier elsewhere, for I am NOT all for hearing stupid comments. There are many other boards where you can get your fill of the stupid comments.


    We watch a sport that is not a sport. We watch a soap opera that is not a soap opera. Stupidity is our middle name!


Speak for yourself. I watch wrestling AND I'm a genius. (And I vote!)


    Why not let the stupid speak (me being one of them) and the smart disagree with them? These columns are set up for debate!


Why not? I don't want to read it. It's just that simple.

"Smart" people who want to feel smugly superior can seek out the comments of the stupid somewhere else. OTHER smart people might feel it's a waste of time to read threads consisting of people competing to be the first/wittiest responder to an idiot. (Unless, of course, it's ME doing the responding, ah ah ah)


    If I say Dusty Rhodes is the best wrestler ever, here is a TopTen then someone should debate me! What happens here is a mod banishes my forums or worse deletes it! What is the difference in that and not allowing free speech?


This argument is pointless, because there is no "free speech" here. People post at the-w.com at my leisure. I don't know how much clearer I can make this.


    I invited "Parvini" here from OO because they were jerks, now we look like the jerks banishing or deleting everything.


And now it comes out. So if YOUR gimmick is posting Top Ten lists, I guess HIS is repeating exactly things he said on OO. I'll be honest...I can do without either. The only thing keeping me from just banning both of you outright is my boundless optimism that you'll both come around.


    Let the fans be heard or you will be just another Vince wanna be! Let us the fans vote, if we like a topic we will commit on it. I have one post that was banished after 18 posts with the line " how did this post get so many responses.." It got so many responses because people were interested in it.


I stand by my banishing of your thread consitsting of fantasy booking about Brian Lawler joining Evolution, followed by everyone's list of where Lawler stands on the list of people who'd make good fits in Evolution. Read for yourself, if you dare (The W).


    Just because a mod doesn't like a post or poster is no reason to ban someone, until they break an FCC or board rule. TopTen lists are not bad, just a way for the people to express themselves.
I don't want lists, so you should probably just consider that a "board rule" if that makes you feel better. Also, I guess I should explicitly say "no three-month old OO threads" so there's no confusion, although I'd hope that "no stupidity" could cover that - and if you DIDN'T know that "Don't be stupid" was the MAIN rule on this board....there's no hope for you. I can't help you. Let's just agree to see other people right now.



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Since: 3.1.02
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.19
    Originally posted by CRZ
    The only thing keeping me from just banning both of you outright is my boundless optimism that you'll both come around.


May your faith in the innate goodness of humanity be an inspiration to us all.

I'm always amazed at how many people don't understand the concept of free speech. Is it seriously *that* hard to realize that since CRZ runs the board, he calls all the shots? Seriously?



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Since: 24.7.02

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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.37
    Originally posted by EddieBurkett
      Originally posted by CRZ
      The only thing keeping me from just banning both of you outright is my boundless optimism that you'll both come around.


    May your faith in the innate goodness of humanity be an inspiration to us all.

    I'm always amazed at how many people don't understand the concept of free speech. Is it seriously *that* hard to realize that since CRZ runs the board, he calls all the shots? Seriously?







As a brief Civics lesson for those claiming free speech:
From U.S. Constitution Amendment 1

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or of the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for redress of grievances.

Unless a coup occurred in the past few minutes, CRZ and Guru are not the U.S. Government (and, if a coup occurred, my money is on the Constitution being thrown out the window anyway). Thus, free speech does not apply.
BTW, XXVII must have gone through when I was drunk. You can't even scream that someone is violating you're 27th Amendment rights.
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Since: 13.7.04
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.42
I learn every time I post a thread more about what is and isn't acceptable on this board. I believe that this is an interesting subject and it would be informative to talk about it in greater detail.

For example the last two threads I posted. One was about my recent discovery of some tight a-- Jakks figs at Toys R Us. It was only meant to inform other collectors of the series. It wasn't banished.


My next thread involved my thoughts on the top 5 Mcs. It was banished. It took me a second to think about why, but it was just a simple list that doesn't give much feedback and wasn't realy a backbone to start an interesting debate/ conversation.



I've also learned to respect the Powers that run and manage this board as I do not know of their faces..but, I know of their powers and I fear them. (the powers..not the ppl)

{ I believe I've come a long way, CRZ...I only hope you choose to see the change in me.}


Anyway, just do what you're told and there shall be peace on the W. And, believe me, there are worse things that can happen than a simple banished thread.







(edited by davidlister on 16.7.04 0022)

(deleted by davidlister on 16.7.04 1453)

(resurrected by CRZ on 14.7.11 1406)
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Since: 9.12.01
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.07
    Originally posted by davidlister
    For example the last two threads I posted. One was about my recent discovery of some tight a-- Jakks figs at Toys R Us. It was only meant to inform other collectors of the series. It wasn't banished.
I hope you ALSO noticed that nobody responded to it either. HINT HINT.

    { I believe I've come a long way, CRZ...I only hope you choose to see the change in me.}
Oh God, please shut up. Thanks



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Since: 21.2.02
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.12
CRZ: This argument is pointless, because there is no "free speech" here. People post at the-w.com at my leisure. I don't know how much clearer I can make this.

For old times sake, you should have whipped out your dick(tater) moniker. ;-)

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(edited by RYDER FAKIN on 16.7.04 1121)


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Since: 13.5.03
From: Woodbridge, VA

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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.76
    Originally posted by TopTenPro
    I am all for hearing stupid comments,

Not everyone else is. If you want to hear stupid commentsso badly why not start your own site?

    Originally posted by TopTenPro
    this is a wrestling web site.

Kinda but not really. There is much more to talk about than wrestling on this board.

    Originally posted by TopTenPro
    What is the difference in that and not allowing free speech?

The difference is that there are about 1, 2, maybe 40 Million other websites to go to if you don't like it here,

    Originally posted by TopTenPro
    I invited "Parvini" here

So you are to blame!

    Originally posted by TopTenPro
    Let the fans be heard or you will be just another Vince wanna be!

???

    Originally posted by TopTenPro
    TopTen lists are not bad,

Sorry but unless your name is David Letterman I rather not see you do a Top Ten list all the time. BTW, I think "Top Ten" is two words.

Now I know this isn't my board and I am not the most liked person around by anyone, but damn people if its SO bad here just leave. You don't HAVE to post here. Just go to Google and enter message board and I bet you will find a number of sites you are happy with. I really hate seeing post about how bad it is here or how you don't like to visit The W. Then just don't.

BTW, it's hHh's fault.

(edited by XPacArmy on 16.7.04 1027)

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Since: 13.7.04
From: New Jersey

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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.21
    Originally posted by CRZ
      Originally posted by davidlister
      For example the last two threads I posted. One was about my recent discovery of some tight a-- Jakks figs at Toys R Us. It was only meant to inform other collectors of the series. It wasn't banished.
    I hope you ALSO noticed that nobody responded to it either. HINT HINT.

      { I believe I've come a long way, CRZ...I only hope you choose to see the change in me.}
    Oh God, please shut up. Thanks



okay, I will. But, the WM jakks thread...it wasn't realy a thread to be replied on. It was only meant to inform others of the figs...your reply makes me think it was a bad thread...should I stay away from posting thread like that in the future ???

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(resurrected by CRZ on 14.7.11 1406)
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Since: 21.3.04
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.20
I just want to say I think people are funny, even when they don't mean to be. I saw my grandma fall down bowling, I laughed out loud.

People are people, and they say some stupid things. I want to read those stupid things and then send them to places like banished.

A gOOd thing about OnlineOnslaught was they changed the name of banished/graveyard and more people went there, maybe we should do the same.
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Since: 23.3.04
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.22
Pardon me if I'm wrong, but can't you read the hilariously dumb stuff IN the Banished folder? Or is it that you want more people to read your witty remarks?

Oh and a quick digression, that putting OO into every double use of the letter 'o' has to be the most annoying thing on the web this side of Scherer's Hypothetical and Unanswered Questions. Sorry, I just loathe it.



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Since: 11.12.01
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.40

    Originally posted by TopTenPro
    I just want to say I think people are funny, even when they don't mean to be. I saw my grandma fall down bowling, I laughed out loud.

    People are people, and they say some stupid things. I want to read those stupid things and then send them to places like banished.

    A gOOd thing about OnlineOnslaught was they changed the name of banished/graveyard and more people went there, maybe we should do the same.


Replying to a 5-day old thread just for this?

I think I'll shut this down, barring other mods coming up with a good reason to not let this die.




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