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Tomboy
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Since: 6.3.03
From: Jersey

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#1 Posted on
First off - how cheezy am I being from Jersey and propping a Jovi song? Pathetic.

Anyway, I still haven't watched the SD tape so I missed Steph and the 2 month announcement for Angle.

I am also too damn lazy to go surfing around trying to figure out this Mutt and Jeff Doctor routine. Let me try and get this straight: Edge, et al, get surgery - year out. Angle goes to voodoo doc, gets surgery, out 8 weeks or so.

Is this the same surgery? Barring the clinical symptoms being the same - are the physical manifestations the same? Is it just that Edge & company missed the boat - or is Angle's injury that of a different manner?

I'm just trying to figure out what exactly is going on and why there is skepticism revolving around Angle's course of treatment, that being if he chooses the alternative.

This is just more of me being random, and of course, me being lazy. Or the many beers I've had tonight...not sure.



~Tomboy
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Madame Manga
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Since: 16.1.02
From: Silicon Valley

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#2 Posted on
Supposedly it's a different doctor and a different surgery that doesn't involve fusing vertebrae. So the recovery time is much shorter. Whether it WORKS is another question. For Angle's sake, obviously I hope it will.

On the other hand, if it does work, it sucks to be Edge. At least he writes good columns.

MM
emma
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Since: 1.8.02
From: Phoenix-ish

Since last post: 4 days
Last activity: 2 days
#3 Posted on
(Standard disclaimer: not a doctor, don't play one on TV ...)

I was rummaging around some on Dr. Jho's site, & the new procedure looks pretty cool.

Basically, as I understand it, the procedure that Dr. Youngblood has done on a bunch of wrestlers (Steve Austin, Benoit(?), Rhyno, Lita, Scotty 2 Hotty, & now Edge) is the classical, been-doing-it-for-decades, repair for the assorted set of problems that all these guys get. The surgeon removes a disk altogether, cleans up bone spurs & such, & inserts an additional chunk of bone where the disk was. The new bone insert needs to grow together with the vertebra above it & the one below it, so that those 3 pieces form a single solid chunk of bone. (That's the "fusion" term you hear.) The year-plus recovery is making damn sure that those 3 pieces really have fused into one chunk that won't fall back apart.

Apparently, Kurt did the interview in the Pittsburgh paper about his injuries, & that resulted in him getting connected up with Dr. Jho (who happens to be in Pittsbirgh too). He does a microsurgery procedure, which is a much newer technology. With microsurgery, you use tiny cameras & tiny, remotely operated instruments, & has much less impact on the patient. In this procedure, he gets to the bone spurs & repairs the herniated disk material through a tiny hole that he drills in the vertebra. He doesn't have to remove the whole disk, doesn't have to insert that extra chunk of bone, & leaves the vertebrae almost as they were -- except for the small hole that should fairly quickly fill itself back in. Recovery time is about 6 weeks. (At least for what normal people normally do -- I'm not convinced that it shouldn't be a bit longer when "what you do" involves being dropped on your neck. Still, that's nothing compared to a year.)

It basically comes down to doing it the way that they've been doing it for 30+ years & have down dead cold, vs. using the newest technology to do a much more efficient procedure.

Obviously we don't know for sure, but I bet Dr. Jho would have been happy to assess Edge, to see if he'd be a good candidate. My understanding is that it would mostly depend on how bad the disk damage is. So for the sake of Edge's mental well-being, let's just assume that Edge had more severe disk damage, & that maybe he wouldn't have been a good candidate. (Mostly though, even Edge says in his column (wwe.com) that basically he "missed the boat." Poor baby. :-( )

Rummaging around on the web, it looks like this Dr Jho has some very, very good credentials & background. That kind of microsurgery is becoming more widespread, & is generally very successful. It is proven technology, the doctor has done lots of it, & he's applying that advanced technology to problems in necks & spines.

I was really skeptical til I started reading through the stuff. (Dr. Jho's website is here (drjho.com), courtesy of HomerJFong in the related thread (wienerboard.com) in the wrestling forum.) It sounds very reasonable & plausible to me. It should go well, they should be able to repair most or all of the problems, & the recovery is sooo much better.

(Well that turned out to be long & probably non-helpful. Hey, I tried. :-) )
Ana Ng
Blutwurst








Since: 6.8.02
From: Naples, FL, USA

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#4 Posted on
Assuming this works, is anyone else feeling the need to send Dr. Jho flowers and a card?

"Dear Dr. Jho,

You have no idea how much you've saved our sanity on Thursday nights. You deserve an honorary gold medal, it's true, it's true!

Sincerely,
The Internet"



Think Happy Kurt Angle Thoughts.
Tomboy
Chipolata








Since: 6.3.03
From: Jersey

Since last post: 3183 days
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#5 Posted on
Thanks guys. Emma, you rock! I feel guilty you wrote that huge post because I'm lazy. But I did get a lot out of it.

I'm in for the card and flowers. Thursday nights are tough enough, never mind not havnig Angle around. Could you imagine the summer without him? Not good...



~Tomboy
emma
Cherries > Peaches








Since: 1.8.02
From: Phoenix-ish

Since last post: 4 days
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#6 Posted on
Tomboy, you're welcome. I just think all that orthopaedic stuff is too cool. I'm glad it was useful.

Ana, card & flowers sounds good to me. The latest article (wwe.com) says that the surgery is scheduled for Friday. Get to bed early on Thursday, Dr. Jho -- that's our Kurt Angle you've got there!
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