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CajunMan
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Here we go again, another group really bored looking to make attention. This time it is the atheists suing over a piece of steel that looks like a cross that will be at the 9/11 museum.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/atheists-sue-cross-world-trade-center-museum/story?id=14169830

Thoughts? These people need to get a life. It is just a piece of steel that had meaning during 9/11. So what if it is a cross.

Just had to vent about this.

Leave the cross alone!
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Religious themes in a state-sponsored memorial is just a bad idea because it's got to be all or nothing. Either include every religion that matters to anybody with any connection to the memorial at all, or include none of them. In the interest of simplicity, I tend to vote with 'none'.



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We are talking about this and not the debt ceiling? I figured if I posted something it would get turned off, but really a cross on WTC gets its own thread, but the end of America's AAA rating gets nothing? Ok.



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    Originally posted by lotjx
    We are talking about this and not the debt ceiling? I figured if I posted something it would get turned off, but really a cross on WTC gets its own thread, but the end of America's AAA rating gets nothing? Ok.


There are several simple answers to that and here is one of them,

http://theresponseusa.com/
Peter The Hegemon
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Look, as an atheist, I actually have no problem with the cross being in the museum. It was part of the day, and so it belongs there for historical reasons. I don't see this as favoring religion.

However, I can understand where these people are coming from. You're telling us to get a life, but we're not the ones trying to impose our views through the law. When we have to have a religious message on every piece of money, when there's an official statement of religious belief the official Pledge of Allegiance, when courthouses use religious oaths and hang the Ten Commandments, can you *really* blame us for being a little touchy on the subject? Are we really the ones who need to get a life?
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.39
    Originally posted by CajunMan
    Here we go again, another group really bored looking to make attention.
And here you are giving them attention.

How many times have I asked you to never start another thread here ever again? I feel like... at least once.



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I'm a Christian and I'm opposed to the cross being in a government funded museum also. And that atheist has been subject to many death threats, which is even more disgusting.
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So we can have a cross in a government funded museum but we can't have a Mosque several blocks away?
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.56
    Originally posted by wannaberockstar
    So we can have a cross in a government funded museum but we can't have a Mosque several blocks away?


You are getting your mosque/temple or whatever it is called at the WTC site.

Anyway Jon Stewart nailed it tonight, It is just a cross and you want to replace it with a atom??? You want an atom instead of a cross? It has billions of them already!
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To me it's simple. The cross in question should be there. Not as a national symbol but more as an exhibit that is reflective of how a group of people directly tied this specific item to their religion in order to move forward with their lives. There is nothing wrong with that IMHO.

I do feel however that along with this cross there should be exhibits in the same area that capture the essence of how religion ties into the events that took place prior to and during the aftermath. Create a whole religious wing and call it the The Third Crusade - Westward Bound! The tag line could be "Dog's and Cat's Living Together....Mass Hysteria!"

From a pure social level there should be an exhibit that captures the view points of the Christians, the Muslims, the Hindu's .....etc..... Capture the story of how hate breeds hate and how it bleeds over in such a way that it defies logic and the basic fundamentals of the faith in question.
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.44
    Originally posted by The Guinness.
    To me it's simple. The cross in question should be there. Not as a national symbol but more as an exhibit that is reflective of how a group of people directly tied this specific item to their religion in order to move forward with their lives. There is nothing wrong with that IMHO.


This. I'm just about the biggest atheist you're going to find, but this isn't like they erected a cross for the sake of erecting a cross. This is a legitimate historical artifact and it unquestionably belongs there. This guy is making us look like dicks who need to know how to pick our battles better.
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