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Since: 11.7.02
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From the Washingtonian magazine...

Hizzoner the Prez
New York is a big place, but when it came to finding a candidate to run against Republican Rudy Giuliani for the US Senate a while back, Democrats had to draft out-of-stater Hillary Clinton. She caught a break when Giuliani dropped out of the race for health reasons, and she won easily.

Now Giuliani’s successor as New York City mayor, Michael Bloomberg, is in political hot water over budget shortfalls, taxes, and a smoking ban. But the usual cast of New York City pols doesn’t seem up to the task of taking him on. Enter Bill Clinton.

The Harlem denizen has near-rock-star status in New York, and he chafes every day that he’s not in the spotlight. With his wife plotting a run for president in 2008, friends of Bill say the prospect of his wife’s upstaging him is almost too much to bear.

Bill Clinton, they say, has decided to run against Bloomberg. Being mayor of New York is considered by some easterners the second-best job after being president.

Running in 2005 (New York elects its mayor in an off year) will allow the former president to be in the position to deliver his state to Hillary in the 2008 election and claim, if the race is close, that he put her in the White House.

His election would also solve a problem for Hillary. She doesn’t want him back in the White House, so Bill’s having his own residence at New York’s Gracie Mansion will suit the two just fine.




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Wow, the Clintons really have managed to reverse the definition of "carpetbagger." Now they all head north.



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Since: 3.1.02
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    Originally posted by Grimis
    Running in 2005 (New York elects its mayor in an off year) will allow the former president to be in the position to deliver his state to Hillary in the 2008 election and claim, if the race is close, that he put her in the White House.


Um, it's 2003. We don't know who will be the Democratic nominee in _2004_ yet.

We don't know if there will be a Democratic President elected in 2004, which would make it very unlikely that Hillary would mount a 2008 primary challenge.

We don't know that Hillary is actively planning a Presidential run in the first place, although neo-con tabloids like NewsMax hawk the possibility daily for fund-raising purposes. ("Send us your money or HITLERY WILL TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!!!1!!11")

One election at a time? Pretty please? My head hurts.




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Plus, there's no way Bill could 'deliver' the state to Hilary as mayor of NYC. Hilary will carry the city, easily, no matter what, due to the huge amount of democratic voters. Bill being mayor could only hurt her w/ upstate voters, since they tend to hate the city.

Plus, Bill's current schedule is way more lucrative than being mayor. It could happen, but seems like idle chatter more than anything.





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I'd love to see Clinton as the mayor, for no other reason than to make a few Republican heads explode. Now if the Republicans were smart, they'd talk to Giuliani about potentially running as VP in 2004 if Cheney's health can't take it.



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Methinks they're keeping Giuliani in the freezer until '08.
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I don't think Bill will run. These rumors were all over the 2001 election also.

That being said, the job is his for the taking. Of course, he doesn't actually live in New York City, but I'm sure that could be taken care of. Now that he's had a little time to make some money and pay off debts it seems like a good enough time (and it's the BEST, not the second-best job).

Would he do a good job? For such a big job, it's very hands-on, and the mayor has probably the most clout out of any big city mayor. It fits in well with Clinton's micromanaging, street-campaiging style, late-night-policypaper-memorizing style. So I'd say yeah. It also involves pleasing everyone while still balancing the budget, another thing Clinton has a proven record with. And considering the last Mayor lived with a Gay couple while trampsing around town with his "very good friend" while his second wife lived in Gracie Mansion (and this was a REPUBLICAN), I'd say Clinton's potential political weakness - namely that he likes blowjobs from fat chicks - would be pretty much neutralized in this town.

Now, Guiliani's future is a whole other thread.



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Someone should try running this interesting side election: Bloomberg vs. Gray Davis in a 'Who Is Despised More By Their Constituency Election.' Has the potential to be a classic.



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    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    Someone should try running this interesting side election: Bloomberg vs. Gray Davis in a 'Who Is Despised More By Their Constituency Election.' Has the potential to be a classic.

Somebody needs to develop whatifelections.com to go along with whatifsports.com.

(edited by Grimis on 4.6.03 1633)


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Not sure if there is an election coming, but that's not really why they're doing it anyway. Alberta is actually 100% debt-free, so the surplus they have is truly extra money.
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