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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.35
The big difference between Arrow and its first cousin, Batman, is the theme of killing. The whole undercurrent of Arrow is about the significance of Oliver killing bad people, which he has. Who taught him to kill? The Chinese Green Arrow on the Island. Why does Oliver kill? For survival? Out of necessity? Out of revenge? The whole series seems to be an extended treatise on a superhero willing to kill; it's a new idea for a superhero TV series that Arrow is still slowly exploring, in a somewhat unassured way. But it's very interesting. Speaking of the Chinese Archer:




Oliver Queen seems to be a forward-thinking, scheming mastermind who sees all the angles, but Arrow has been savvy in throwing curveballs his way. Whatever his reasons were for wanting Laurel, the daughter of the police officer who arrested him under suspicion of being the hooded vigilante, to defend him, he wasn't expecting her to ask the judge to make him wear an ankle bracelet. Nor was she expecting him to decide to submit to a polygraph test just to convince Detective Lance he's not the vigilante.

The polygraph scene was the best scene in the episode, one of the best in the series so far. We know Oliver can beat a polygraph but he told a lot of truth, chiefly that he was tortured on the Island. Laurel didn't know Oliver's body is 20% covered in scar tissue, nor did she know about his abs. But when she found out - SMOOCH, of course. We also learn that Oliver considers himself her sister's killer, enough so that the polygraph backs it up. There's that undercurrent of remorse and guilt Oliver feels towards the entire Lance family because of Sarah Lance drowning when Queen's Gambit sank.

Confined in Queen Manor, Oliver can't be Arrow so while he throws a house party, he gets a reluctant and again, pleasingly rational John Diggle to wear the hood. "Anyone can be the vigilante." Gosh, that sounds awfully familiar to something some other billionaire vigilante said this past summer. I love that with Diggle knowing who Oliver is, Oliver can be real with him and not put on the BS act he puts on with every other character on the show.

"You know us billionaire vigilantes. We do love our toys." Diggle getting access to the Arrow Cave and giddily getting to play with Arrow's arsenal was the funniest stuff in the episode. He was like a kid in a candy store. Plus Diggle doesn't look half-bad in the Arrow suit. It was kind of like in the old Batman TV show when Bruce Wayne would be captured and Alfred would wear the Batman suit and pose as Batman in the most hilariously unconvincing manner possible. This was all to break up a weapons deal with some Boyz in the Hood gang bangers happening in Starling City, and the fact that the hooded vigilante was sighted by witnesses while Oliver Queen was home partying was enough to acquit Oliver from suspicion of being the vigilante.

In the Flashbacks on the Island, Oliver was rounded up by the mercenaries in black, tossed in a pit, and meets a European man named Edward Mueller, who's looking for the Chinese Green Arrow for some reason. When Oliver won't admit he knows him, Mueller brings in Deathstroke (never named in the episode) to beat the crap out of Oliver and torture him before Chinese Green Arrow arrives for the rescue. Obviously, we'll be seeing more of Deathstroke in the future but this appearance was a bit of a letdown. Deathstroke didn't say anything and acted mainly like a henchman thug; outside of the mask, you'd never know it was Deathstroke.

This week's DC Universe shout out besides Deathstroke: Laurel once wore fishnets for a Halloween party. Laurel thought they were horrible. Oliver thought they looked good.

Arrow episodes are so densely plotted, there was a ton of other stuff going on: The reveal that Quentin Lance is an alcoholic (not surprising), a little stuff with Thea this week, tension between Moira Queen and John Barrowman, who tried to have Oliver killed, and Walter revealing to Moira that he knows about the Queen's Gambit wreckage before leaving for Australia. Arrow packs the storylines in tight and it's only been 5 episodes.

My biggest question coming out of this week: What does Tommy Merlyn do for a living? Who is this guy? We know so little about him besides he used to do Laurel, wants to again, and he hangs out at Queen Manor an awful lot.




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You are making it difficult for me to not watch this show, if it's as smart as what you describe it.



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.35
It's glossy enough to be easily taken at face value, but if you are familiar with the differences between the superhero trope in comics vs mainstream media, this show is rather groundbreaking.
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.84
Oliver's booking number, 73 1941, was also a shoutout.

I didn't like this one as much as the last couple weeks. I think it was too heavy on the Nolan Batman similarities.

Also, "You have failed this city!" isn't getting over with me as a catchphrase, as much as they want it to.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.84
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.85
    Originally posted by SchippeWreck
    Also, "You have failed this city!" isn't getting over with me as a catchphrase, as much as they want it to.
It is with me. I'm TOTALLY looking for a reason to use it in the workplace.
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.75
Ok, I marked out for Slade. He is (or was, before the New 52 went overboard with him) one of my fave villains and it's nice to see him on my TV. Although, I question his fashion sense a tad. An all-black commando outfit looks great and all, but the half-bannana yellow mask looks a little silly. The half-blue, half-orange mask would have gone better with that all-black ensemble.

I still maintain that Quentin Lance comes across like a cartoonish buffoon. He really didn't help himself in this episode.

The bit with Ollie, Laurel, and Ollie's scars feels like another plot point that felt awfully rushed. They're just blowing through all kinds of stuff in just the first half of the season.

I really don't know where the Walter subplot is going, but I can't see an "accident" not happening on his flight.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.45
I actually thought the English guy was Deathstroke, because he acted a lot like Wade especially the young and foolish remark probably came from a Teen Titans panel. Yet, his name was not Wade, so when Deathstroke came out, I was both pleased and sad. Pretty good fight though between Deathstroke and Proto-Hood.

I thought it was actually one of the faster paced episodes for some reason. It seem to fly by and was rather logical at times. I also have to agree that they seem to be this weird fast forward a lot of stuff, but so far its been good, I mean really good. The nods to the fishnets, Bruce and the numbers on the suit was great. Next week looks like some sorta Royal Flush gang. I am wondering if the reason for all this rush in the human stories is to get to something bigger like say a certain guy with a green ring.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.29
Supposedly the show is operating under a "DC universe without superpowers" rule, so don't expect a certain Coast City test pilot anytime soon, if at all.



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.38
Sorry to bump this thread up with a new episode coming tonight, but the photo Stephen Amell attached to this tweet is pretty awesome.






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