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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.25
"Betrayal" is Katie Cassidy's favorite episode and it's obvious why. Plenty of Laurel in this one as her secret relationship with the vigilante comes to a head. Laurel gets used as bait by her father Detective Lance to trap the Hood, is attacked in her apartment by hired goons, defends herself admirably (she must have gone to the Lois Lane School of Self Defense Against Thugs), falls for the ol' taser in the neck, is held hostage, and is saved by the Hood and her dad teaming up. Tommy also finds out that Laurel and the Hood have been in crime fighting cahoots for months and doesn't take the lies he was told well, which he relates to Oliver, who then lies to his face. Perhaps most importantly for my long term enjoyment of this series, Laurel has Thea starting up as her full time intern (community service hour one of five hundred), and there's another hot woman now working at her firm. This place is turning into the Hottie Law Offices of Laurel Lance, Attorney at Hottie Law.

David Anders, the guy who played Adam Munroe on Heroes, is this week's villain, fresh out of prison and out to make a name for himself by taking out the Hood, the guy every criminal's afraid of. After the Count last week, he's pretty bland. He bragged to Laurel about the army of machine gun-toting ruffians he assembled to kill the Hood while we watched in amusement at how easily the Hood took them all out. The funniest stuff was the first time the Hood broke into the compound to spy on him with his Listening Device Arrow (which he left behind). The Hood calls up Laurel to offer what intel he learned and said "he couldn't do much". Well, besides kill four armed guards. (Oliver kills a lot of people this week; body count wise, this is probably the most murderous Oliver has been.) Prior to that Laurel told the Hood of Anders' location, that he's living in his lawyer's house and his lawyer disappeared. "There was no foul play", Laurel said. Except for the body bleeding all over the foyer after Anders stabbed him! And if the person has mysteriously vanished, there's probably foul play, Laurel.

On a similar vein, Diggle once again scored the line of the night, when insisting to an obstinate Oliver that they investigate his mother Moira's involvement in all this mystery and deceit going on with the List. "I tend to believe the innocent party is whoever's missing." Oliver is a lot more concerned with believing Moira is innocent than, say, showing any interest in investigating Walter's disappearance, but Diggle is not playing the Moira's innocent game. Diggle decides to chauffer Moira around so he spy on her, and he even pulls a high tech version of the famous story of Jay Leno hiding in the closet to listen in on the NBC executives debating whether to give The Tonight Show to him or David Letterman. Diggle gets the incriminating evidence he needs, and it really helped how forthcoming Malcolm Merlyn was for Dig's audio recording, like handing her a piece of paper with an address and then making a point of saying out loud it's the address where the Queen's Gambit's remains are warehoused, that the yacht was sabotaged, and he'd like her to get rid of the evidence, please. Moira also wasn't shy of criminal-like verbiage like "not needing to make the usual threats".

All of this is finally enough for Oliver to believe his mom's up to no good. Earlier, Oliver went to talk to Moira to show her the book with the List and she made a big show of tossing it in the fireplace and evading any incriminating reveals. But with all the hard work Diggle put in to spying on Moira staring him in the face, Oliver decides to Hood up and pay Moira a visit at Queen Industrial Tower, smashing through the window, killing her guards and pointing an arrow right at her head. No way he pulls the trigger. (Though if Thea were there, would she egg him on to do it? Probably?)

On the Island, Oliver finds a crashed airplane's remains, and we all get really confused about whether he is actually on Lost. Oliver meets Slade Wilson, who we find all sorts of things about, like that he and Yao Fei were working together and he claims he also has another partner who wears the mask of Deathstroke. Slade wanted Oliver to help him take an airstrip on the Island ("it takes two of us to take the airstrip." Only two? Huh.) but finds Oliver isn't really a soldier, just the kid who got marooned on the Island, and totally lacks sword fighting skills. So Slade beats Oliver up and ties him to a chair, but is mighty impressed when Oliver pulls the Martin Riggs Lethal Weapon 2 separating his shoulder trick to free himself. Not sure why Slade is lying about being Deathstroke, but now he's going to train Oliver. After all, he needs Oliver to take that airstrip.

DC Universe mention this week: The Winick Building, where the Hood asked Laurel to meet him. Named for comic book writer and Real World: San Francisco alum Judd Winick. The Winick Building must be where all the brain donors live. An even better random shout out was Michael Voltaggio, the winner of Top Chef season 6, who submitted his resume to be the executive chef at Oliver's club. Though apparently, the real Michael Voltaggio knows nothing about it, or Arrow:






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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.44
Winick also had a run at writing Green Arrow, so that's a double bonus for mythology gags. This sounds like a show I should watch.

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There was also a nice DC universe mention when the attorney was killed. "Partner at Wolfman and Perez is missing". Marv Wolfman and George Perez were the creators of Deathstroke during the great Teen Titans run.

When the early reports of the show were coming out, I thought this would be terrible. It's great and hopefully they can keep up the pace without burning out.
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.25
Oh man, I forgot Diggle's line where he suggested the Hood and Moira should have "an arrow-side chat". Sure enough, that's where we ended up in our cliffhanger.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.52
    Originally posted by El Nastio
    This sounds like a show I should watch.


JO makes it sound better than it really is.

The dialogue is very contrived and most of the secondary characters are cliched almost to the point of being parodies. But the action scenes are indeed great and Diggle and the police guy played by Paul Blackthorne keep me watching. I like how more 'trick' arrows are being used. This is the height of archer-superhero silliness and it is fascinating to see it in a real life TV show.

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I don't care at all about the gradual reveals about what happened on the island. The flashbacks don't add to the present-day storyline at all, unlike that other show starring a mysterious island, so it is just two storylines about the same guy that have almost nothing to do with each other. Maybe that will change as more is revealed, but at this point it would have been better to do the first few episodes with minimal island time and then do an episode here and there focusing mostly on the island flashbacks with minimal present-day movement.

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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.25
    Originally posted by samoflange
    JO makes it sound better than it really is.



That's probably so. I think the show is an above average comic book-brought-to-television program that has flashes of something more intelligent or innovative up its sleeve. It plays like something for the thinking 14-16 year old to enjoy, but there is an underlying sophistication that lends the show some gravitas even while it plods through the tropes of the comic book superhero genre.

I can also do without the Island flashbacks, but the little reveals are there to answer the questions of how Oliver at 23 became the skilled, deadly killer he is now at 28. Plus one presumes all his Island friends will eventually make their way to Starling City. I'm more or less impatient for that to happen.

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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.52
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    That's probably so. I think the show is an above average comic book-brought-to-television program that has flashes of something more intelligent or innovative up its sleeve. It plays like something for the thinking 14-16 year old to enjoy, but there is an underlying sophistication that lends the show some gravitas even while it plods through the tropes of the comic book superhero genre.


This is exactly how I felt about Heroes early in its first season. Let's hope Arrow doesn't follow suit.
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.25
Thankfully, Heroes and Arrow are very different beasts. Not to get into a long rant about Heroes, because I could easily type 100,000 words of hate about that show and Tim Kring, Arrow's success model at The CW is Smallville while Heroes' was Lost. They were/are aiming to do different things and be different types of shows, though both ostensibly are 'superhero' concepts. Whatever mistakes Arrow may make in its run, I seriously doubt they'll spiral the way Heroes did.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.12
I actually loved Heroes minus the complete disaster of season 3 for which they could never recover at least the first half and one of the reasons was Adam in season 2. This was a really good episode where all the chickens came home to roost. Laurel and Ollie's secret relationship made them unlikable, now that is over, hopefully we can move on. Detective Lance realizing that his own cops were on the take is another character turn that needed to happen. He was going down a rather crazed path that that will lead to his demise by the end of the season. I love Diggle. The final scene was worth the price of admission. Slade saying he likes sword was just amazing.

(edited by lotjx on 9.2.13 1348)


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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.83
Finally watched last week's episode this morning and had to laugh as a Spartacus watcher when the Slade Wilson character (who also plays Crixus on Spartacus) said he preferred using a sword. Let's also not forget that Cyrus Vanch played one of the original bad guys on "Alias" all those years ago.

as an old time reader of Green Arrow who has long since lost touch with the DC Universe, I am loving this show. It really gets me through my ridiculously early AM workouts and I really appreciate these recaps too.



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