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Since: 11.7.02
From: MD

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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29
Wait a sec, I thought global warming was the end of us all:
    Originally posted by AP/CNN, 1/31/05
    Record low temperatures over the North Pole are thinning the protective ozone layer, a condition which could affect human health in northern countries and even central European nations, the European Union warned Monday.

    "Large ozone losses are expected to occur if the cold conditions persist," said European Commissioner for Science and Research Janez Potocnik.

    He said the first signs of ozone loss have been observed after an extremely harsh winter above the Arctic....

    ....ecause of the record lows over the Arctic, scientists have been put on alert to monitor closely the condition of the ozone layer over the coming months.

    "The meteorological conditions we are now witnessing resemble and even surpass the conditions of the 1999-2000 winter -- when the worst ozone loss to date was observed," said Dr. Neil Harris of the European Ozone Research Coordinating Unit in Britain.

    He said temperatures at a 20 kilometer (12 mile) height had dropped to an average of minus 80 degrees Celsius (minus 112 degrees Fahrenheit), the lowest over the Arctic in half a century.

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No, global climate change. Which is not just warming, but more drastic weather changes of all sorts. And, hmmm, weather look a little more drastic to you recently.

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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.37
I still don't buy the global warming or global cooling argument "destroying the ozone layer". However, if some scientist would make an argument that shooting rockets through the ozone layer eventually leads to holes in it, I'd listen. For some reason, that would just make more sense.
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.81
    Originally posted by ars-technica

    Distributed computing helps revise climate change models...

    By Jonathan M. Gitlin
    ...and it doesn't look good

    Climate change is still a contentious issue in some parts of the world. Despite widespread acceptance in the scientific community and by the general public in most of the industrialized world, it remains a divisive topic in the United States, rejected by conservative politicians armed with studies from industry-funded think-tanks and a healthy dose of congnitive dissonance.

    In part through linguistic subtleties (for instance using global warming for a phenomenon that ought to be called climate change) and in part through the propensity of the modern media to give equal time to all sides of an issue regardless of the facts, Tony Blair's recent call at the world economic forum for serious concern and attention to be given to the topic may yet fall on deaf ears.

    A common complaint amongst nay-sayers is insufficient modelling. This has been assessed in a new study that has used a distributed computing approach to climate change modelling, In fact, our very own Team Baked Alaska is currently ranked 6th out of the participants. By running the same software on over 90,000 individual computers, the project was able to compare over 2,500 different simulations to examine the effects of increasing concentrations of CO2 in the atmosphere. The results were chilling. From a low projection of 2C, it is possible that average global temperatures could rise 11C, and more worryingly, the threshold for such disastrous change may be unavoidable.

    The current concentration of CO2 is around 372 ppm, with 2ppm being added annually. With CO2 emission reduction unlikely to happen anytime soon in the US, the worlds largest emitter, and rapid industrialisation in India and China pointing towards even greater CO2 emissions, I am not hopeful that this will be an avoidable event.

    We hope to bring you an interview with the authors of this paper soon.

Let's examine this thread for evidence. Is an opinion stated by Grimis? Nope. Does this thread explain why or why not any hypothesis is supported? Nope. Should this thread be taken seriously?


Willful ignorance of science is not commendable. Refusing to learn the difference between a credible source and a shill is criminally stupid.
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.44
    Originally posted by Guru Zim
    The results were chilling.

You know, if you think he's trolling, you should just banish or delete the thread. Posting a second wrong to make it right just makes it look like you're taking the bait, and to be honest, I can't figure out the point of YOUR quoted bit either. In fact...bad show all around from everyone posting in this thread. Oops, me too. BYE

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