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The only shame is that he might get to die peacefully (unlike the people he's had brutally murdered over the years) & not with a rocket up his ass.

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I wouldn't be surprised if the badass Iraelis poisoned him or something.

My big question is, if he kicks the bucket, who takes over for him? And is that person going to be better or worse for the world?
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Yes, but if he dies like this, he's not a martyr. Hopefully, someone with an actual commitment to peace ultimately takes his place. Of course, in that region, it ain't bloody likely.





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    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
    Yes, but if he dies like this, he's not a martyr. Hopefully, someone with an actual commitment to peace ultimately takes his place. Of course, in that region, it ain't bloody likely.


Oh, he'll be a martyr. They'll blame it on some Israeli plot or something. Considering some of the stuff them blame on the Jews, this one'll be easy.

If the Israelis have any sense at all, they'll let Barghouti out of jail and let him have a go at it. He's the only one with the combination of street cred, common sense, and (hopefully) willingness to make peace to possibly make it work.

The really fun game is going to be "where's he going to be buried, who's going to come, and what are they going to say." If the Israelis really want to be pricks they'll make him be buried in Egypt (he is Egyptian after all).



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    Originally posted by Roy.
    My big question is, if he kicks the bucket, who takes over for him? And is that person going to be better or worse for the world?
    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
    , someone with an actual commitment to peace ultimately takes his place.
Those are the two key points. I personally believe that Arafat has always been part of the problem, and his death will help peace along. However, true to their Communist roots the PLA is going to be run by a troika in the meantime. And generally, whoever is the most ruthless, worst guy of the bunch takes charge(see: Stalin).



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http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-10/29/content_2151630.htm


    "France, as I told you (Arafat) in Ramallah on June 30, will be always on your side to back your effort in favor of a just and negotiated peace," [French foreign minister] Barnier said.


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Besides where he is buried, an interesting question will be what level leaders show up for his funeral? Heads of State or just lower level emissaries.
And, while the next leader could be worse than Arafat, nothing is going to be accomplished with him in control, so might as roll take a shot that his successor is willing to cut a relatively reasonable deal.



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Well, I am pretty sure if he gets buried anywhere where an Israeli war plane can fly near, you can bet your ass a lot of "hi level PLO" types will bite the dust that day.
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Well, it looks like Arafat is on the way out... (story.news.yahoo.com)
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    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
    Yes, but if he dies like this, he's not a martyr. Hopefully, someone with an actual commitment to peace ultimately takes his place. Of course, in that region, it ain't bloody likely.


My sentiments, exactly. As ghoulish as it sounds, I would like nothing more than for him to die a peaceful death (when his natural time comes, of course).



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The Yahoo! link says that he is dead, if you missed it I think it's not a question of if any longer.



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    Originally posted by Guru Zim
    The Yahoo! link says that he is dead, if you missed it I think it's not a question of if any longer.


Although...this is starting to get strange. This was on the MSNBC site, and CNN had one similar to it.

BREAKING NEWS
NBC News and news services
Updated: 12:14 p.m. ET Nov. 4, 2004

PARIS - A hospital official in France on Thursday denied reports that Yasser Arafat had died as the result of an undisclosed illness. The statement came after Israeli media and the prime minister of Luxembourg said the 75-year-old Palestinian leader had died.

EDIT: CNN is now saying (dateline today, 12:00 EST) that Arafat is being moved to a different medical facility for "treatment more appropriate to his condition".

(edited by Blanket Jackson on 4.11.04 1219)


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Both the Palistinians and French doctors are denying he's dead however, with the docs saying only his condition is now "more complex." Still, if he's not dead it's looking like a safe bet he won't be around by the weekend.



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The report I heard says the Israelis said he was dead. The French denied he died in a Paris hospital, and also denied that the condition was cancer. Something about a blood problem.


Reminds me a bit of a Simpsons episode
He was taken to hospital and pronounced dead. he was then taken to a better hospital and pronounced alive.

The jury's still out (ie my opinion) on the effects this will have on the Gaza conflict.



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Anybody else getting an old Russia feeling about this? LIke he's BEEN DEAD for a a few days, and they are scrambling trying to get things lines up back in Israel before they announce it?

Remember Andropov? Didnt that basicly happen with his death?
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    Originally posted by Blanket Jackson
      Originally posted by Guru Zim
      The Yahoo! link says that he is dead, if you missed it I think it's not a question of if any longer.


    Although...this is starting to get strange. This was on the MSNBC site, and CNN had one similar to it.

    BREAKING NEWS
    NBC News and news services
    Updated: 12:14 p.m. ET Nov. 4, 2004

    PARIS - A hospital official in France on Thursday denied reports that Yasser Arafat had died as the result of an undisclosed illness. The statement came after Israeli media and the prime minister of Luxembourg said the 75-year-old Palestinian leader had died.

    EDIT: CNN is now saying (dateline today, 12:00 EST) that Arafat is being moved to a different medical facility for "treatment more appropriate to his condition".

    (edited by Blanket Jackson on 4.11.04 1219)





This still isn't as good a Calling a Person dead before their time blunder as a few years ago when CNN knocked off Bob Hope, the Pope and about 25 others all at once.
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    Originally posted by Big G
    The report I heard says the Israelis said he was dead. The French denied he died in a Paris hospital, and also denied that the condition was cancer. Something about a blood problem.


    Reminds me a bit of a Simpsons episode
    He was taken to hospital and pronounced dead. he was then taken to a better hospital and pronounced alive.


I don't know why this whole thing reminds me of a Strong Bad song, but it does.

It'll be the biggest hit on Radio PLO: "Yasser is not deeeeaaaad/I'm so glad Yasser is not dead/Yasser is not deeeeaaaad..."



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    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    This still isn't as good a Calling a Person dead before their time blunder as a few years ago when CNN knocked off Bob Hope, the Pope and about 25 others all at once.


Including Yasser Arafat, if I remember correctly.



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Rust Belt names to consider(and remember, these are going to be very ambitious people who can afford the loss and want to take one for the team): Rep. Marcy Kaptur(OH) Rep. Bobby Rush(IL) Rep. Janice Schawkowsky(IL) Sen. Debbie Stabenow(MI)
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