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What do we got this time?

  • Office Mac 2008 (Intel based)
  • Time Capsule (500GB {$300}, 1TB {$500} wireless drives to work with Time Machine)
  • iPhone software update, available in iTunes

    • Home Screen customization (you can reorder it or add apps, and have up 9 different screens)
    • text messages to multiple people
    • lyrics and chapters for music, subtitles for movies
    • current location on maps (using other cell phones, not GPS)

  • iPod Touch will get the same features and the Mail/Maps/Stocks/Notes/Weather button that are native to the iPhone, but existing iPod Touch users will have pay $20 for the upgrade.
  • iTunes will offer movie rentals, starting today.

    • every major studio is involved, 1000 movies available by the end of next month.
    • US only, for now
    • No movie will be available till 30 days after the DVD.
    • The movie can stay on your computer for 30 days, but only for 24 hours after you start it.
    • You can transfer it to your other (apple?) devices
    • $3 for old movies, $4 for new releases, and plus $1 for HD movies.

  • This is part of a relaunch of the AppleTV

    • allowing you to rent movies (and buy TV show and music) from your TV.
    • Anything you can do in iTunes, you can now do from the AppleTV,
    • as well go to YouTube or get pictures from Flickr or Picasa.
    • current users (both of them) get the upgrade for free, in a couple of weeks
    • price is cut to $230 (from $300)

  • DVDs (and Blue Ray) will start to have digital copies of their movies on the disc, so you can rip them directly to iTunes (and AppleTV or your iPod or whatever.) Family Guy's movie is the first.
  • The MacBookAir "the world's thinnest notebook"

    • like, it can fit in a manilla envelope thin (.16 inches or 4 mm thick) and weighs 3 pounds
    • "full size" keyboard (backlit) and display (13.3 widescreen inches)
    • 5 hours of battery life
    • built in camera
    • touchpad improves on the iPod, with more multitouch gestures.
    • default drive is 80GB, 2GB RAM
    • 802.11N wireless and Bluetooth
    • No CD/DVD Drive standard, though they've got a wireless feature to share with other computers. You can also buy a USB one for $99
    • $1800 (with a more expensive solid state drive version, the price of which went unspoken)
    • Ships in two weeks, preorder today.

  • And then Randy Newman sung a song and killed ten minutes. I dunno


I'm annoyed by having to play $20 for what essentially amounts to Apple flipping a switch to activate features that all already on my iPod Touch. I've already got a notepad knockoff and rather use google's webmail for the rest, so I don't think I'll bother.

I'm not sure AppleTV is more than a niche market for those locked into the Apple/iTunes universe. Even with the DVD ripping news, it's all about locking people stronger into Apple products. Great for Apple, not so great for everyone else.

I've been thinking about getting a Macbook about this time for a while; I have an old Gateway laptop that really needed to be replaced from the moment I got it. The rumors of exactly this laptop coming out on this date had been strong for quite a while, but I didn't really have a target price in mind. I guess that'd be about it. The thinness and the battery life are super appealing. No DVD drive feels weird - I always bring along DVDs when I'm gone with my laptop for a while, though I guess I just could rip them if I know I won't be near another computer. N wireless worries me, because everything I've got is locked on the G standard. This is a really interesting computer, but I've got to think about it a bit more.



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The wife got me an AppleTV last year and I've actually used it a ton. Mostly because I never buy DVD's of TV shows, so like when I decided I wanted to see what this Lost show was I bought the seasons on itunes and watched them via AppleTV. Not awesome picture quality but neat anyway. Though I never use the other features(music/YouTube) on it, so these upgrades will be nice.
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Nice of Steve not to mention that the solid state option on the Air costs $999 extra, bringing it to $2700. DA-YUM!

The AppleTV is on its way to being something I'd want, but it's not there yet.

I think I'm actually most excited about the Time Capsule.


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(edited by SchippeWreck on 15.1.08 1138)

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Since: 7.2.02
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Regarding the MacBook Air, the biggest thing for me is the hard drive size. I'm eating through gigabytes these days, and I am struggling to keep space free on my current 80 Gig laptop. If I added movies and TV shows - frankly 80 Gig isn't going to cut it. Even after my last music purge, I still ended up with 25 Gigs of music. Adding video - especially HD and BlueRay - I don't see how you'll store everything on a laptop with just an 80 Gig drive.

Isn't the solid state drive even smaller?

The price is also a deterrent. A top-line MacBook retails for $1449 (less if you get the academic discount), with 160GB harddrive, DVD, etc etc. Heck, the introductory MacBook Pro retails for $2k, and it's even spicier. And both the MacBook and MacBook Pro weight under 7 lbs.

Unless you ABSOLUTELY need something THAT small, I still think the MacBook or MacBook Pro are better deals.




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    Originally posted by Leroy
    Isn't the solid state drive even smaller?
64G.

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?nnmm=browse&mco=639BD6F7&node=home/shop_mac/family/macbook_air




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A grand for a 64G SSD is completely insane. Like, a new kind of insane. If you buy that upgrade, a forehead tattoo of the Apple logo should be mandatory, if only so people of the opposite sex can avoid breeding with someone of your obvious idiocy.



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    Originally posted by ironcladlou
    A grand for a 64G SSD is completely insane. Like, a new kind of insane. If you buy that upgrade, a forehead tattoo of the Apple logo should be mandatory, if only so people of the opposite sex can avoid breeding with someone of your obvious idiocy.


Sorry, no.

I won't even go into how much has been paid for how little from the distant past right up until present day. And a little research suggests that with this move, Apple is probably not only going to lead the market on this, but effectively bring the prices down to where we regular humans can afford them much quicker than would have naturally happened.

This here link (storagesearch.com) says (scroll down to "How Much do Solid State Disks Cost?") that, "In March 2007 SanDisk announced it was offering its 32GB 2.5" SATA SSD to oems for $350." Figure that OEMs mark that price up at least 50% to the end-user.

That link also states that, "In September 2007 - Super Talent Technology said that the street price for its 128GB 2.5" / 3.5" SATA flash SSDs is approx $4,499."

Apple isn't losing money on the SSDs, I'm sure, but they're certainly not just there strictly for sexual inadequacy issues.

With an SSD, that laptop is going to be virtually dead silent except when the fan kicks in; and I'm positive they've engineered the snot out of it to keep it quiet as well as sexy as fuck.

As for 64GB and 80GB being too small, sure they are. Your iMac AppleTV and your Time Capsule and any other systems you encounter are your real storage. Apple envisions you going from place to place to place streaming content via high bandwidth wireless off other Apple boxes that you find everywhere...For the stuff you really need to be doing, 64/80GB are PLENTY. If your music and your movies are on your computer, "You're doing it wrong! (Why isn't it on your iPod? What? You don't have an iPod? You're doing THAT wrong too!!)"

Possible? Sure! Plausible? Maybe not. But if anyone can make a go of it, it's Apple.
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"And a little research suggests that with this move, Apple is probably not only going to lead the market on this, but effectively bring the prices down to where we regular humans can afford them much quicker than would have naturally happened".

For them to do this, they sorta need to have their prices inline with their compition. *IF* the cost of the drive is $999 when you buy the system itself, it is $249 more expensive than the XPS 1330 if you do the comprable upgrade at the time of system purchase.

Of course, to buy a stand alone drive outside of the initial purchase.....that costs MONEY.





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    Originally posted by tarnish
    As for 64GB and 80GB being too small, sure they are. Your iMac AppleTV and your Time Capsule and any other systems you encounter are your real storage. Apple envisions you going from place to place to place streaming content via high bandwidth wireless off other Apple boxes that you find everywhere...For the stuff you really need to be doing, 64/80GB are PLENTY. If your music and your movies are on your computer, "You're doing it wrong! (Why isn't it on your iPod? What? You don't have an iPod? You're doing THAT wrong too!!)"


In my I'm-not-the-head-of-a-successful-multimillion-dollar-corporation opinion, the only way this kind of portability makes sense is battery life. If you have an 80G (or 64G) laptop, but the battery lasts 20 hours, then it might make sense to spend $3100 on a 64G laptop.

According to the "Compare Specs", the MacBook Air has "Up to 5 Hours of Wireless Productivity" while the other MacBooks have "Up to 6 hours Max" of battery life. I'm not sure what that tells us, but the MacBook Air doesn't seem to have very much unplug time for a wireless device.

It seems that Apple is viewing the MacBook Air as something between the MacBook and the MacBook Pro.

I think you're on to something with the focus on wireless media accessibility, but the portability of the MacBook Air screams "frequent traveler" to me - someone who really wants that kind of portability and could really use a extended battery life. I'm not sure the MacBook Air has all of that.

But again, I didn't invent the iPhone, iPod, iTouch...



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    I think you're on to something with the focus on wireless media accessibility, but the portability of the MacBook Air screams "frequent traveler" to me - someone who really wants that kind of portability and could really use a extended battery life.


In this vein, it's worth nothing the Macbook Air's battery is sealed into the computer. It's built into the device, same as in the iPod. Those frequent travelers on trios wouldn't be able to carry a spare battery to swap in with the other runs out.



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I don't know how big the market is for home audio PCs any longer, but there was a point in time I would have killed for a fanless, silent PC that I could record audio on.




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