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#181 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.62
    Originally posted by Reverend J Shaft
      Originally posted by Blanket Jackson
      True, although in his last few months, he helped bring Benoit back up to World Title contention (before he left for RAW, anyway) and halp make Eddie the biggest babyface in the company.


    How in the hell did Brock help bring Benoit to World Title contention in the last few months? Benoit had one title match against Brock in December and then immediately went back to wrestling John Cena or the FBI for the last few weeks until the Royal Rumble. He was still a mid-carder until he he won the Rumble.

    However, he probably did "halp" Eddie become the biggest babyface in the company, though I must confess I don't know what "halp" means...


I didn't say he carried him all the way to the main event, but until Survivor Series when Brock tapped the crossface, they weren't doing anything above midcard level with Benoit. After that came the story where Benoit fought Brock tooth and nail and Brock had to come out with a secret weapon in his arsenal in order to barely win. He was against the FBI at that point because of the story of "no way in hell do you get another shot at the title". At which point he won the Rumble and it's just that now we never get to see the blowoff of that match thanks to Brock leaving.

But whatever point that Benoit is at now, the trigger point came at Survivor Series.

I'm not even going to say anything about the other thing. Not because I can't, but I'm choosing not to get into something retarded over a typo. You know, like you TRIED to?

(edited by Blanket Jackson on 11.3.04 1534)


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#182 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.61
http://www.foxsports.com/ content/view?contentId=2218514

Fox Sports has picked up on it now. They do point out "If a report on Pwinsider.com is to be believed."

From the story:

"The football players that have made the transition have two of the basic qualities necessary for a wrestling career: impressive physiques and a high threshold for pain. Those same qualities aren't nearly enough to make the cut in the NFL.

So what makes Lesnar think he can be the first?

Maybe it's the time he spent working out with veteran NFL guard Corbin Lacina in the 2003 off-season. If the report is accurate, then someone is obviously telling Lesnar he has a shot (and remember, this could be the WWE putting one over on all of us before their marquee event.)"

So spending time with an NFL vet makes him think he can do it? Interesting. I wish him the best of luck. But I also remain on the fence with you guys thinking it all might be at work. Who knows.

Anyway I thought the article was good read and worth sharing.



(edited by Ffej on 11.3.04 1537)


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#183 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.09
Just wondering if this is the longest thread ever. Sure looks like it is. Who wants to take bets as to when it will die away?



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#184 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.35
    Originally posted by Blanket Jackson
    I didn't say he carried him all the way to the main event, but until Survivor Series when Brock tapped the crossface, they weren't doing anything above midcard level with Benoit. After that came the story where Benoit fought Brock tooth and nail and Brock had to come out with a secret weapon in his arsenal in order to barely win. He was against the FBI at that point because of the story of "no way in hell do you get another shot at the title". At which point he won the Rumble and it's just that now we never get to see the blowoff of that match thanks to Brock leaving.

    But whatever point that Benoit is at now, the trigger point came at Survivor Series.

    I'm not even going to say anything about the other thing. Not because I can't, but I'm choosing not to get into something retarded over a typo. You know, like you TRIED to?

    (edited by Blanket Jackson on 11.3.04 1534)


Things may have "triggered" for Benoit at Survivor Series, but I just don't think making Brock tap had anything to do with elevating Benoit. I just believe Benoit's push started when he won the Rumble.

And I wasn't trying to get into "something retarded" over a typo. Notice the f**king . It was just a friendly reminder that the spell check option is available. Considering how you've nitpicked other posts (mine, et. al.) I figured you would APPRECIATE the f**king help.
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#185 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.65
    Originally posted by samoflange
    Just wondering if this is the longest thread ever. Sure looks like it is. Who wants to take bets as to when it will die away?
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#186 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.03
    Originally posted by Reverend J Shaft



Things may have "triggered" for Benoit at Survivor Series, but I just don't think making Brock tap had anything to do with elevating Benoit. I just believe Benoit's push started when he won the Rumble.





Count me in as another one who disagrees with you here. The entire seeds for Benoit's push started with making Lesnar tap out (and therefore increased the "You Tapped Out" chants into a pretty regular chant during Lesnar's appearances). Suddenly it was all about Benoit chasing his dream, Lesnar running scared, and Heyman playing Vince McMahon.
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#187 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.98
    Originally posted by JMShapiro
    "The gist of the post was that Brock owed a debt first and foremost to the company"

    The idea that Lesnar somehow has to justify his salary for the last two years is silly. He justified his paycheck by wrestling in pro wrestling matches over the time period.


No, no, no. While I dont think Brock made nearly enough money for the company to justify his salary I was not implying for a second that he should be forced to stick around until he brings in more cash for Vince.

The debt I was refering to (and this is probably heading toward sanctimony) was more of a moral one. He should have recognised that he was bailing out on a contract he hadnt fully justified and been willing to stick around long enough that his departure didn't leave such a gaping hole in the company.

He failed to do the decent thing to a company that had treated him very well which in my view makes him an ass.

Thats all.
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#188 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.43
    Originally posted by Reverend J Shaft
    Things may have "triggered" for Benoit at Survivor Series, but I just don't think making Brock tap had anything to do with elevating Benoit. I just believe Benoit's push started when he won the Rumble.

    And I wasn't trying to get into "something retarded" over a typo. Notice the f**king . It was just a friendly reminder that the spell check option is available. Considering how you've nitpicked other posts (mine, et. al.) I figured you would APPRECIATE the f**king help.

As was pointed out, Benoit's push effectively began when Kurt tapped him for Team Angle. From there, Benoit was the one who made Brock tap out, and was one of two survivors of the team. That set up the whole Brock Tapped Out thing, which lead to Benoit getting the Title Shot and almost winning if not for a ref bump, which lead to Heyman blacklisting Benoit from any more title shots. So from there, Benoit had no choice but to enter the Rumble, and continued to overcome all the cards Heyman stacked against him.

The key thing there was that Benoit was made out to be a serious threat to Brock, starting with Survivor Series. If it wasn't for that, he'd still be in Velocity Hell with Rhyno.
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#189 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.06
A couple of Brockservations:

1) In the promo for Wrestlemania Brock says that Wrestlemania is "Where what you do, makes you who you are." A little ironic, since if the stories of his departure are true, then what Brock 'does' at this Wrestlemania will make 'who he is' a complete spoiled brat. Look for the signs: "Brat Lensar!"

2) Tonight on SD there was a promo for Backlash in Edmonton (or was it a different show in Calgary?...not sure if the same promo airs in all markets); this promo featured Lesnar: Lesnar is coming to Edmonton (... or Cowgary?) next month... I realise it could be that there just hasn't been time to edit, alter, or otherwise switch the promo to a more accurate one, but still, it gave me pause to think of the whole swerve possibility.

(edited by Stilton on 11.3.04 2135)

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#190 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.11

    He failed to do the decent thing to a company that had treated him very well which in my view makes him an ass.

    Thats all.


So somebody beat Vince to the punch for once ... so what? It seems like a knee jerk reaction on his part, which might make him a little irrational, but hardly an ass.
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#191 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.44
    Originally posted by Phantom
    If it wasn't for that, he'd still be in Velocity Hell with Rhyno.


Chris Benoit was hardly struggling to be on Smackdown every week before the Brock angle. Unless you were being dramatic.

(edited by ScottieKStones on 11.3.04 2157)


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#192 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.91
I don't know whether I believe this whole thing is a work or not, but to all of you who say "they'd only be fooling the IWC, and no one cares about us," consider this: This has been news for what, two days? And it's been in two mainstream news sources noted in this thread alone. Chances are, more publications will pick up on it, not just because it's Mania weekend, but because it involves the NFL, which, however I may feel about it (can't touch baseball, kids), is the most popular sport in the nation.

NFL news is slow this time of year, so it's only natural that a weird (and it is weird) story like this might trickle into the mainstream sports press. If it's in the mainstream press, mainstream people will read it. And they just might buy Wrestlemania.

Vince MacMahon is a devious individual.



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#193 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.83
The fact that WWE hasn't said anything officially about it also lends credence to it being a shoot. If they were really trying to work the Internet, they would try to get the word out to as many sources as possible online.

Even though it would spread from word of mouth, as it has, many people on this messageboard and across the Internet we won't believe it's credible until WWE says something about it officially. If they were working us, their aim would be to get us to believe it.

The reason this NFL news hasn't picked up in the mainstream press is because neither Brock nor Vince have gone public with the news. Until they do, no one will pick up on it. As Jakegnosis said, if Vince was truly trying to use this to boost WrestleMania, he'd get it out to the mainstream press so people would read it and buy the PPV.
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#194 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.09
    Originally posted by SKLOKAZOID
    The fact that WWE hasn't said anything officially about it also lends credence to it being a shoot. If they were really trying to work the Internet, they would try to get the word out to as many sources as possible online.

    Even though it would spread from word of mouth, as it has, many people on this messageboard and across the Internet we won't believe it's credible until WWE says something about it officially. If they were working us, their aim would be to get us to believe it.

    The reason this NFL news hasn't picked up in the mainstream press is because neither Brock nor Vince have gone public with the news. Until they do, no one will pick up on it. As Jakegnosis said, if Vince was truly trying to use this to boost WrestleMania, he'd get it out to the mainstream press so people would read it and buy the PPV.


But if Vince did that, we would all know it was a work right away. Maybe Vince is playing the other side, and doing this all as if it really were a shoot, but is still a work. Maybe he wants to test just how mainstream some "news" can get once it is leaked out of the locker room. It would be some nice proof in point to those WWE employees who do leak information, showing how much word truly does get around. Using a big story like this would be the best way to accomplish that goal.
Probably not, but its always a possibility, knowing Vince.



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#195 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.95

    Originally posted by samoflange
    It would be some nice proof in point to those WWE employees who do leak information, showing how much word truly does get around. Using a big story like this would be the best way to accomplish that goal.
    Probably not, but its always a possibility, knowing Vince.
Why would Vince go through all this trouble to prove (to who??) that lockerroom leaks do get around? Isnt the fact that he got up in front of everyone and DEMANDED that they stop talking to the internet proof enough that he knows leaks get around? Why would he want to "prove" it to anyone else? That just sounds silly.

And you dont know Vince, none of us do. Knock it off. I hate when people say that.



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#196 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.54
re Lesnar's NFL chances: I'd say he has a legit chance to stick around on a practice squad for a year or so.

The Pats signed a guy named Stephen Neal--who beat Lesnar for the NCAA title in Brock's jr year--based on his size and amateur wrestling credentials.

Neal was not as big as Lesnar (a little longer, not as muscular), but was more talented. Still, given Lesnar's sized and athleticism, plus his amateur wrestling background, some one would likely give him a chance.

Neal, FWIW is an offensive lineman, and spent most of this year on the injured list.




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#197 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.15
I'm not sure, but I think Neal may be fullback Lorenzo Neal's brother. Don't quote me on that though. Lorenzo was a very accomplished collegiate wrestler himself.





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#198 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
i just read this on prowrestling.com


Mike Tice, the Minnesota Vikings coach has informed the Minneapolis Star-Tribune that Brock Lesnar will be not getting a tryout for the Minnesota Vikings. He said the following regarding Lesnar getting a tryout for the team:

Ive heard it. Theres no tryout. We havent talked to him. Im not going to spend any time on that rumor.

This should put to rest all talk of Lesnar signing with the Vikings.

Source: Minneapolis Star-Tribune



this could be evdience towards this bein all vinces doing or evidence that brock is a total idiot for quittin wrestling
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#199 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.54
If this is a work, then we all bought it hook, line, and sinker.

-But that doesn't mean it'll draw money
-It doesn't mean it was good reason to work the locker room.
-It doesn't mean it'll get mainstream coverage.
-It won't make the fans "on the internet" any more passionate or any less arrogant about the product.

So if it was, it only goes further to prove that Vince McMahon is a moron.



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#200 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
i totally agree with u Hogan's My Dad but if its a work the one thing it may have ahieved is more interest in the lesnar/goldberg match an mania because im sure everybody was feeling lesnar would win the match and this puts more mystery into it.
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