The W
Views: 99910237
Main | FAQ | Search: Y! / G | Calendar | Color chart | Log in for more!
22.10.14 0440
The W - Movies & TV - Anna Nicole Smith Dies (Page 2)
This thread has 11 referrals leading to it
Register and log in to post!
Thread rated: 5.52
Pages: Prev 1 2
(3732 newer) Next thread | Previous thread
User
Post (39 total)
Hogan's My Dad
Andouille








Since: 8.6.02
From: Canada

Since last post: 5 hours
Last activity: 5 hours
#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.29
    Originally posted by KJames199
    But if you - like so many of us - didn't care one way or another about her as of 24 hours ago? Then maybe the international day of mourning isn't really an appropriate response.


If you didn't care about her, the "appropriate response" would probably be not commenting at all.

There really isn't (or wasn't) a national day of mourning. It's news. She was famous. Welcome to reality. Turn off the TV. You don't have to see things you don't want to see. People choose to get annoyed. Whether you cared about her or not, the point is she died at a very early age and maybe we can do learn something from this that will stop someone else from dying under similarly shitty circumstances. I'm betting we won't, but the potential is there.

Your other examples are mind-boggling. John Ritter made people laugh. People have affection for those who made them laugh. Pretty straightforward if you could curb the bitterness long enough to see straight. When people die decades before their life expectancy, it's news. In an era of twenty-four-seven news coverage, any famous well-liked figure dying supiciously is gonna get lots of play. It shouldn't have bothered you in his case, nor Anna's, and hopefully it won't bother you in the future.

As for Chris Reeve, he was in one of the most famous films of all time and in one of the most legendary roles. He pulled it off quite nicely, and everyone thought so long before he was paralyzed. No one said he was a hero for falling off a horse or dying, but he campaigned for research and provided a famous face and voice for causes that no one, as you've proven, gives a shit about until it happens to them or someone they love. Trust me when I tell you that this meant a lot some people, and forgive me for predicting it's more than you'll do with your life.



Was It Something I Said?
KJames199
Scrapple
Moderator








Since: 10.12.01
From: #yqr

Since last post: 14 hours
Last activity: 7 hours
#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.85
    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
    If you didn't care about her, the "appropriate response" would probably be not commenting at all.
I didn't comment on HER. I commented on the dozens of people I've seen who are acting like this is the greatest tragedy ever to befall Western civilization.
    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
    John Ritter made people laugh.
He had a nice long career of mediocrity. Then he died young and suddenly we all had to pretend that one of the great comedic geniuses of all time was tragically silenced.
    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
    As for Chris Reeve, he was in one of the most famous films of all time and in one of the most legendary roles. He pulled it off quite nicely, and everyone thought so long before he was paralyzed.
You really think so? Really? I mean, I know he's damn near a candidate for sainthood now, but if he hadn't fallen off a horse, he'd probably be spending every weekend at sci-fi and comic book conventions. Instead, I shit you not, when Christopher Reeve died, flags flew at half-mast. FOR AN ACTOR. A BAD ACTOR.
    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
    Trust me when I tell you that this meant a lot some people, and forgive me for predicting it's more than you'll do with your life.
I weep at your harsh words, Hogan's My Dad. I can only hope to elevate myself to your own lofty standards.



JK
Brian P. Dermody
Liverwurst
Moderator








Since: 20.9.02
From: New York, NY

Since last post: 936 days
Last activity: 358 days
AIM:  
Y!:
#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.28
Before her life took a turn for the tragic, she was an enjoyable trainwreck. Part of what made it enjoyable, for me anyway, was that no matter how bad the circumstance got, she seemed to be a good human being who wanted to do the right thing.

All this talk about her life and you never hear of the hotel rooms she trashed or the assistants she tormeneted or how every last person who interacted with her wanted to hit her. Somebody would have said something, right?

(I didn't watch the reality show; maybe she was a beast to her assistant and it's documented somewhere.)

She wanted to be Marilyn. She was probably a little more Mamie Van Doren. But at least her pain is over.

Rest in Peace, Vicki Lynn



Piping hot fried dough plus a whack with a hammer.

Reward TV -- TV just got better!
StingArmy
Andouille








Since: 3.5.03
From: Georgia bred, you can tell by my Hawk jersey

Since last post: 17 days
Last activity: 17 days
#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.14
    Originally posted by KJames199
      Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
      If you didn't care about her, the "appropriate response" would probably be not commenting at all.
    I didn't comment on HER. I commented on the dozens of people I've seen who are acting like this is the greatest tragedy ever to befall Western civilization.

You didn't comment on her? Our mistake, that must have been the other KJames199 on this board that posted earlier in this thread and said "Anna Nicole Smith did nothing and mattered not," etc. etc.


      Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
      John Ritter made people laugh.
    He had a nice long career of mediocrity. Then he died young and suddenly we all had to pretend that one of the great comedic geniuses of all time was tragically silenced.

I don't know where you grew up or what kind of TV you Canucks get up there, but down here in America, Three's Company was, and continues to be, pretty damned popular. It may not be the pinnacle of high art, but it's entertaining. Furthermore, some people (myself included) were enjoying the mildly-successful show he was working on when he died. I know I haven't watched more than two episodes since. Everyone is entitled to have an opinion, but I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you are in the teeny tiny minority if you think nobody cared about John Ritter while he was alive.


      Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
      As for Chris Reeve, he was in one of the most famous films of all time and in one of the most legendary roles. He pulled it off quite nicely, and everyone thought so long before he was paralyzed.
    You really think so? Really? I mean, I know he's damn near a candidate for sainthood now, but if he hadn't fallen off a horse, he'd probably be spending every weekend at sci-fi and comic book conventions. Instead, I shit you not, when Christopher Reeve died, flags flew at half-mast. FOR AN ACTOR. A BAD ACTOR.

I was actually going to respond to just your comments on Christopher Reeve before HMD beat me to it. Forget opinions, you are inarguably wrong on this. Period. Superman is an American icon, and there has never been any person in history more associated with Superman than Reeve. When he became paralyzed, it was like Superman became paralyzed. And when he died, it was like Superman died. You have to be a cold heartless bastard to not understand that people hate seeing bad things happen to their heroes. All of this is true, by the way, without even considering the fact that he became a champion for others suffering from paralysis.

I mean good grief, what does it have to take? I bet you think nobody should have cared when Michael Jordan's dad or Bill Cosby's son were murdered. Or when Magic Johnson told the world he had HIV (then considered to essentially be a death sentence). You're right, let's not care about our celebrities when tragedy strikes them. It's not like they're anybody important to us.

- StingArmy
Leroy
Boudin blanc








Since: 7.2.02

Since last post: 6 days
Last activity: 5 days
#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.85
    Originally posted by StingArmy
    I don't know where you grew up or what kind of TV you Canucks get up there, but down here in America, Three's Company was, and continues to be, pretty damned popular. It may not be the pinnacle of high art, but it's entertaining.


Not to derail, but...

Three's Company was a cutting-edge show. Sure, it seems campy as all hell now, but in its heyday it was doing things that had never been seen before on television.

And it paved the way for writers like David Mirkin, who went on to produce and write for such unknown shows like Newhart and The Simpsons.



"Oh my God! They have a shit-load of Cockapoo stuff!"
-Jennifer's greatest quote... ever.
Llakor
Landjager








Since: 2.1.02
From: Montreal, Quebec, CANADA

Since last post: 560 days
Last activity: 551 days
AIM:  
#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.24
    Originally posted by StingArmy
    I don't know where you grew up or what kind of TV you Canucks get up there, but down here in America, Three's Company was, and continues to be, pretty damned popular.


Man, first Flea and now you. What is it with people today?

Can we please stop the mass hating of Canuckstanians please?
Thank You.

For the record. I thought, still think that John Ritter was the finest physical comedian of his generation. Three's Company gets a bad rap for being popular because ceratin people refuse to believe that anything popular can be good. God knows there was plenty low brow in the concept of Three's Company, and sometimes in its execution as well, but it had moments of comedic excellence that few series ever reach.

Hooperman is very underrated.

His film with Blake Edwards including the famous duelling glow in the dark condoms/sword fight was so funny that I literally fell out of my chair laughing when I saw it in the theatre. (Can
No matter where you fall on your opinion of how good Christopher Reeves was as an actor. (And playing an icon is a lot harder than it looks.) Even people who were not fans of the Superman series, respected Christopher Reeves, NOT BECAUSE HE FELL OFF A HORSE (rude word deleted) but because of how he reacted to the injury that changed his life. His courage and dignity was and is an inspiration for millions.

Also, Superman is at least 50% Canadian.

And to bring us back on track, Anna Nicole Smith's death was a bit of a shock to me, largely because she ws my age and it is always a shock when someone your own age passes, especially someone who could, in theory, afford the best medical care in the world.

The media over-reaction to her death is a little odd. Then again so was their over-reaction to her life.



"Don't Blame CANADA, Blame Yourselves!"
KJames199
Scrapple
Moderator








Since: 10.12.01
From: #yqr

Since last post: 14 hours
Last activity: 7 hours
#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.85
I'm not opposed to grief, incapable of sympathy, or even disinterested in celebrity gossip. I merely tire of people overreacting to things that, in the end, don't affect their daily lives one iota. There's nothing wrong with caring that Bill Cosby's son was murdered, but people shouldn't pretend that it affected them to the same degree that it affected Bill Cosby. Just as an example.

The death of Anna Nicole Smith was a tragedy to her family, her friends, and her fans. But where were all these fans a week ago? Where were the people who are now falling all over themselves to describe her struggles as "inspiring?" Go back a week and I bet a lot more people thought of her as "an enjoyable trainwreck," as Brian put it... that is, if they bothered to think of her at all.

And apart from the train wreck factor, what did she leave behind as a legacy? I'm not even trying to be a dick here. To all the people that care so deeply about her passing, enlighten me. Why was she famous? What did she do? What did she leave behind, apart from some Playboy pictorials and "an enjoyable trainwreck" of a reality show?

John Ritter - I certainly won't dispute that Three's Company was a funny show (and I'd agree that Hooperman was underrated). Calling Ritter "the finest physical comedian of his generation," well, I'd say that's a bit much. And I bet if you went back in time to one week before his passing, you wouldn't find very many people who'd have described him as such.

Christopher Reeve - He wasn't a good actor (if you disagree, so be it), and watching them now, his Superman movies don't hold up (again, if you disagree, so be it). I will point out that his IMDB entry lists a whole lot of bit parts in TV shows and made-for-TV movies between the end of his run as Superman and his paralysis.

I get that he was the face of a (half-Canadian) American icon, and that's reason enough for people to remember him. But the reaction to his paralysis, and later his death, was disproportional to what was warranted. Again, it sure seemed like he had an awful lot more fans the day after he was paralyzed than he did the day before.

Maybe it's just that I wouldn't go so far as to call his post-paralysis actions courageous. He tried to help raise money for a cause that affected him very personally. It beats doing nothing, to be sure, but the level of self-interest involved (again, in my opinion) negates the courage required. There are people helping to feed and shelter and educate children in war-torn third-world countries, and doing so for no other reason that they feel it's the right thing to do. That takes real courage.

And with that, I think I'm done.



JK
wmatistic
Andouille








Since: 2.2.04
From: Austin, TX

Since last post: 48 days
Last activity: 4 hours
AIM:  
#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.08
It's not that some people are sad she's dead, it's that this shouldn't be front page news. She wasn't "important" in any way. It's pathetic that anyone would now gloss over the fact that she was a druggie and a loser who had nothing to give this world but huge knockers. Do we now not talk about the times she was found mumbling and stumbling in the city streets, high on everything? Or is it cute that she married an old dude and was until her death fighting for money that he IN HIS WILL said was not hers, depriving his own family of it? Or nothing big that her son could barely speak and ended up killing himself due to a similar drug problem? Or cute that she was borderline retarded, having never made it past the horribly tough eighth grade? Or maybe we're mourning that such a great role model for our young girls has passed, seeing as how she had been knocked up before the legal age of consent in most states (by a boy a year younger than her even)?

I'm sorry if that offends some people who liked her, but she was not a person in any way that anyone should strive to be like. She was entertaining on a tv show slightly but it's not for any talent she had other than saying stupid things and being spoiled.

Again I can see if you personally are a little sad at her passing. But to make this headline news for days after the fact is a joke.

(edited by wmatistic on 11.2.07 0753)

(edited by wmatistic on 11.2.07 0755)
cfgb
Lap cheong








Since: 2.1.02
From: Ottawa, Ontario

Since last post: 10 hours
Last activity: 7 hours
#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.45
    Originally posted by wmatistic
    It's not that some people are sad she's dead, it's that this shouldn't be front page news. She wasn't "important" in any way. It's pathetic that anyone would now gloss over the fact that she was a druggie and a loser who had nothing to give this world but huge knockers. Do we now not talk about the times she was found mumbling and stumbling in the city streets, high on everything? Or is it cute that she married an old dude and was until her death fighting for money that he IN HIS WILL said was not hers, depriving his own family of it? Or nothing big that her son could barely speak and ended up killing himself due to a similar drug problem? Or cute that she was borderline retarded, having never made it past the horribly tough eighth grade? Or maybe we're mourning that such a great role model for our young girls has passed, seeing as how she had been knocked up before the legal age of consent in most states (by a boy a year younger than her even)?

    I'm sorry if that offends some people who liked her, but she was not a person in any way that anyone should strive to be like. She was entertaining on a tv show slightly but it's not for any talent she had other than saying stupid things and being spoiled.

    Again I can see if you personally are a little sad at her passing. But to make this headline news for days after the fact is a joke.

    (edited by wmatistic on 11.2.07 0753)

    (edited by wmatistic on 11.2.07 0755)


I know little about Anna Nicole Smith, but your post just showed some of the ugliest hatred I've come across on this board yet.

In what way did she harm you to cause that kind of venom? Did she personally cause your world to be a more uncomfortable place to live in? Was she the driving force behind whomever clearly peed in your mother?

When people pass away, we eulogize them - and we try to remember their good points. Your axe to grind is with the media, but you've opted to take it out on someone who is no longer with us - and that is about as low as you can get.

When you pass away, I seriously hope nobody stands up and remembers you as the guy who (insert totally embarrassing moments) during the time in which your family is trying to grieve. Instead they'll recall the good times in which you managed to hang onto that WII controller when nobody else in this world could, and raise a toast.
oldschoolhero
Knackwurst








Since: 2.1.02
From: nWo Country

Since last post: 1986 days
Last activity: 1920 days
#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
My problem with the media is that it's the selfsame machine that pilloried and villified the woman for fifteen years before she died. It's disingenuous, and it does extend to the many, many people who probably didn't give a shit about her before she passed and who are now crying her a river. There's a sad thing here - a beautiful woman descended into a parody of humanity, partly because of herself and partly because of the fucked-up world that surrounded her. The sadness lies in what Smith symbolises about the current state of society, mostly. Which is why people crying over her as if she were some sort of saint is so galling. Nothing's going to change. People are gonna carry on reading about Paris Hilton's latest sexcapades, or Lohan's stints in rehab, and then I'm sure there'll be a similar overblown reaction if/when one of those names dies young.

And as per Flea's Elton John crack....man, you have NO idea how frustrating and scary I found the public mania over Diana's death.



To those who say people wouldn't look; they wouldn't be interested; they're too complacent, indifferent and insulated, I can only reply: There is, in one reporter's opinion, considerable evidence against that contention. But even if they are right, what have they got to lose? Because if they are right, and this instrument is good for nothing but to entertain, amuse and insulate, then the tube is flickering now and we will soon see that the whole struggle is lost. This instrument can teach, it can illuminate; yes, and it can even inspire. But it can do so only to the extent that humans are determined to use it to those ends. Otherwise it is merely wires, and lights, in a box.-Edward R. Murrow
SEADAWG
Boudin rouge
Moderator








Since: 5.7.03

Since last post: 631 days
Last activity: 84 days
#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.85
    Originally posted by wmatistic
    It's pathetic that anyone would now gloss over the fact that she was a druggie and a loser who had nothing to give this world but huge knockers.

They were some pretty nice knockers, though.
chill
Landjager








Since: 18.5.02

Since last post: 2686 days
Last activity: 2686 days
#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.62
The Anna Nicole Smith stuff is clearly a big deal right now, given all the controversy that proceeded her death - especially the last six months. If anyone can't see that, then I don't know what to say. It doesn't mean she's a great human being, it just means she's culturally relevant right now. Duh.

As for John Ritter? Go watch Slingblade. Hell, go watch Bad Santa (or even better the outtakes from Bad Santa) and you'll see how good of an actor Ritter could be. And those aren't even two of his best films. He made and commanded a lot of money at times in his career - was even the sole reason a lot of people went to certain bad movies in the late 80s/early 90s (ie. Problem Child). Ritter was known famously for the kind of human being he was. While many say that Christopher Reeves was a total jerk in his younger days, the same was never said for Ritter.

And when Reeves died, it was a big deal because: 1) he was Superman, and 2) after paralysis, he was paramount in bringing research issues to the forefront with politicians and lobbyists - a pretty damn important achievement in the opinion of people who know what they're talking about.



// the circus // dvd shelf // top 20 //

JustinShapiro
Scrapple
Moderator








Since: 12.12.01
From: Pittsburgh, PA

Since last post: 6 days
Last activity: 3 hours
#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.47
Anna Nicole was no Barbaro.
wmatistic
Andouille








Since: 2.2.04
From: Austin, TX

Since last post: 48 days
Last activity: 4 hours
AIM:  
#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.08
    Originally posted by SEADAWG
      Originally posted by wmatistic
      It's pathetic that anyone would now gloss over the fact that she was a druggie and a loser who had nothing to give this world but huge knockers.

    They were some pretty nice knockers, though.


Yeah I failed to mention I still have her old Playboy issues.

I mean just cause I ain't crying over her death don't mean I can't appreciate big boobies.

To cfgb, sorry if the facts of her life are getting in the way of your tears.
Leroy
Boudin blanc








Since: 7.2.02

Since last post: 6 days
Last activity: 5 days
#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.85

Granted, we don't have cable, so I only have two channels to on which to base this - but I didn't see people falling over themselves mourning Anna Nicole the way some people are implying.

    Originally posted by JustinShapiro

    Anna Nicole was no Barbaro.



As a former vegetarian, and as someone who is dating a vegan - that coverage drove me nuts. That horse lived better than most people.

    Originally posted by chill
    As for John Ritter? Go watch Slingblade. Hell, go watch Bad Santa (or even better the outtakes from Bad Santa) and you'll see how good of an actor Ritter could be.

    ...

    And when Reeves died, it was a big deal because: 1) he was Superman, and 2) after paralysis, he was paramount in bringing research issues to the forefront with politicians and lobbyists...


I remember being dragged to see Noises Off... (starring both Ritter and Reeves) in the theater, and it still stands out as the hardest I have ever laughed in a movie theater.





"Oh my God! They have a shit-load of Cockapoo stuff!"
-Jennifer's greatest quote... ever.
CRZ
Big Brother
Administrator








Since: 9.12.01
From: ミネアポリス

Since last post: 12 hours
Last activity: 11 hours
AIM:  
ICQ:  
Y!:
#36 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
1. I could do without some of the personal attacks in this thread.

2. Speaking of Barbaro, Click Here (time.com)





I AM CRZ
Torchslasher
Knackwurst








Since: 17.1.02
From: New F'n Jersey

Since last post: 3 days
Last activity: 2 days
#37 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.75
What is interesting to me is that ANS's final film was called Illegal Aliens. Her co-star for this film? Yep, "Chyna Doll" herself Joanie Laurer. I guess that's where the connection and the "friendship" comes in.

Plus, the film was directed by David Giancola for Edgewood Films. As an MST3K buff, I know that they were responsible for one of the worst movies and one of my favorite MST episodes of all time, the movie "Time Chasers."

RIP ANS.





Click Here (czwfans.com)

For all your CZW and Nickels Trivia information.


"Look guys, it's 'Lake Man!' Hope you can fit into our NARROW office, Mr. Big Lake" --MST3K The Collection V. 7

Click Here (myspace.com)
Cerebus
Scrapple








Since: 17.11.02

Since last post: 7 days
Last activity: 18 hours
#38 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.97
It's bugging the fuck outta me that they keep saying the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino she died at is in 'Hollywood Florida', when infact, it's in Tampa, right next to the State Fair Grounds, bringing the Carnival aspect of her life to a whole other level.
RYDER FAKIN
Six Degrees of Me








Since: 21.2.02
From: ORLANDO

Since last post: 41 days
Last activity: 41 days
AIM:  
#39 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.11
If you want to split hairs, pilgrim, it's the SEMINOLE Hard Rock , etc.

REPARATIONS ON THE PALE FACE'S PALE FACE SQUAW

and HOW!

Chief Ten Beers







Demonstrations are a drag. Besides, we're much too high

1ryderfakin.com
Pages: Prev 1 2
Thread rated: 5.52
Pages: Prev 1 2
Thread ahead: Anna Nicole Smith and Chyna's movie trailer
Next thread: Kim Possible Season 4 starts! Boo-yaaaah!
Previous thread: New Hulk casting news
(3732 newer) Next thread | Previous thread
The thing I've been wondering about the ending was, was the crazy lady right? She demanded the blood of the youngest child in the store before she was shot, saying that would end the plague-like mist. So then after his dad shoots the kid, what happens?...
- geemoney, The Mist (2007)
Related threads: Bam Bam Bigelow Dead - RIP Benny Parsons - RIP Alice Coltrane - More...
The W - Movies & TV - Anna Nicole Smith Dies (Page 2)Register and log in to post!

The W™ message board

ZimBoard
©2001-2014 Brothers Zim

This old hunk of junk rendered your page in 0.226 seconds.