I use Microsoft products for just about everything:
* Internet Explorer for webbrowsing * FrontPage XP for web design (because it's easier when working on currently online sites, and Dreamweaver UltraDev doesn't want to work right on my machine for some reason) * Word for documents (natch) * Windows 2000 Server & IIS 5.0 for web hosting * SQL Server 2000 for databases
I guess I've been assimilated, but all these products do what I want with no problems, and isn't that what you're supposed to look for?
Originally posted by Guru ZimDid I mention that I'm loving Mozilla yet? Did you notice that the spinning Wienerville gif doesn't reset back to frame #1 in Mozilla when you change pages?
Why, that's enough reason alone to switch from IE.
For the record, it doesn't reset in Opera either.
Speaking of which, anyone know why people don't seem to like Opera very much? It like the best browser in the world for most pages. and the windows within the main window, mouse movements and popup refuser are just spectacular.
(edited because I really should proofread or preview my posts before posting them)
yeah i guess the ads can bug people. personally I've learned to ignore them pretty well. not to mention that often enough they the ad window just closes up cause they haven't managed to sell enough ad i guess.
I see it as a fair trade off because i don't get any popup ads.
I always feel dumb having a back and forth with someone on the board (and i believe it's usually looked at negatively anyway) but what can i say i have more to say about Opera so I've just edited it on to this post and maybe it'll help me feel less dumb.
Anyway, what i like about the opera pop up stoppa is that it's just a matter of hitting f12 to turn it on or off. from what I've seen with Netscape (and probably MoZil) it takes a lot more work to play with the settings to get things going right.
Also another cool feature is the page zoom and also designer mode for those pages where you just can't read the text against the background (or as they put it, for poorly designed web pages) It was very helpful for all the Kings themed days here at slash. and all just a simple mouse gesture away. they have truly thought of everything.
Oh and i can never get shockwave things to work right either but that's why I've kept IE on my comp. That and for pages designed with IE specific HTML ==== so are edited additions prefered to entirely new posts or what?
Mozilla's option to stop popups is specifically for ones that appear when a page is loaded.
I'm tellin ya - try Mozilla out for a spin. The reason to not use IE is simple - the web should not be owned by a company that feels like it is more important than standards. Mozilla is all about standards.
I know, you don't care as an end user... but imagine a hardware store where every nut or screw was proprietary. You wouldnt like that, right? That's why standards are good... it's not just important that things work.
//edit: PS this from someone who runs Win2k server, IIS, IE, and MS*SQL at work where I get paid and MySQL, Apache, and Opera / Netscape / Mozilla at home.
(edited by Guru Zim on 9.6.02 1806) I love it when a plan comes together
Originally posted by Guru ZimI'm tellin ya - try Mozilla out for a spin. The reason to not use IE is simple - the web should not be owned by a company that feels like it is more important than standards. Mozilla is all about standards.
Well I got me some MoZil today and gave it a quick how do you do. I have the same issues with it that I have with netscape. Mainly that it's kinda ugly and generally too "busy" looking.
Anyway, I agree that IE should be avoided whenever possible and I'm just curious why you prefer MoZil to Opera. I'm not trying to start a browser turf-war or anything I really am just curious and you seem to know your browsers. so how bout it? what makes mozilla preferable to Opera? Is it simply the preference for open code programing?
And is there anyway to change what the browser is identified as within mozilla? (i.e in Opera you can get it to represent as IE or netscape etc. which helps when using hotmail.)
anibanging: go here and get the pinball skin, It's a good, non-busy (with tiny buttons) skin. The classic theme is pure evil, and modern is too big.
I'm the kind of guy who switches primary browsers every 3 to 6 months. And in defense of IE, it doesn't suck completely, nor does it crash all the time. And if it does crash all the time, that's a sign of some other problem (unless your running IE 3 or 4...).
Originally posted by Fuzzy Logicanibanging: go here and get the pinball skin, It's a good, non-busy (with tiny buttons) skin. The classic theme is pure evil, and modern is too big.
Actually I went with the IE theme. What can I say, I may not like the IE program but i've gotten pretty used to the look. For now i'm sticking with Opera with MoZil as my "jeez this page really doesn't open right with Opera" backup.
P.S is there a keyboard shortcut to highlight the address bar?
Originally posted by anibangingP.S is there a keyboard shortcut to highlight the address bar?
Ctrl-L, just like it's always been. (In older versions of Netscape and in IE, it opens an "address Window" or some such, in Mozilla it does what I view as the "right thing" and jumps straight to the address bar.)
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