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Since: 9.12.01
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#1 Posted on
Did I mention that I'm loving Mozilla yet? Did you notice that the spinning Wienerville gif doesn't reset back to frame #1 in Mozilla when you change pages?

Why, that's enough reason alone to switch from IE.



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You know, Netscape 7 does the same thing. (Could be all that Mozilla incorporatin') I like how the favicon I made shows up with N7, too.

I've been using Netscape 7 more than iCab 2.8 lately - I feel like a traitor to the cause, yet it's still not IE so who can complain?



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Since: 14.1.02
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Mozilla this, mozilla that. BAH. Am I the only one content using a microsoft product on my PC?


(edited by El Nastio on 9.6.02 0024)


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I'll back you up on this one, Nastio. Yeah, I know IE isn't the best browser out there, but it serves my purposes just fine, and I'm a lazy bastard.
Ike



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Since: 2.1.02
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#5 Posted on
I use Microsoft products for just about everything:

* Internet Explorer for webbrowsing
* FrontPage XP for web design (because it's easier when working on currently online sites, and Dreamweaver UltraDev doesn't want to work right on my machine for some reason)
* Word for documents (natch)
* Windows 2000 Server & IIS 5.0 for web hosting
* SQL Server 2000 for databases

I guess I've been assimilated, but all these products do what I want with no problems, and isn't that what you're supposed to look for?

Mike



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Since: 5.3.02

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#6 Posted on
    Originally posted by Guru Zim
    Did I mention that I'm loving Mozilla yet? Did you notice that the spinning Wienerville gif doesn't reset back to frame #1 in Mozilla when you change pages?

    Why, that's enough reason alone to switch from IE.



For the record, it doesn't reset in Opera either.

Speaking of which, anyone know why people don't seem to like Opera very much? It like the best browser in the world for most pages. and the windows within the main window, mouse movements and popup refuser are just spectacular.

(edited because I really should proofread or preview my posts before posting them)

(edited by anibanging on 9.6.02 1155)
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Since: 31.3.02
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It costs 35 bucks, or you have ads. That is why most people don't like it, I figure.

When I used it, I liked it.
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#8 Posted on
yeah i guess the ads can bug people. personally I've learned to ignore them pretty well. not to mention that often enough they the ad window just closes up cause they haven't managed to sell enough ad i guess.

I see it as a fair trade off because i don't get any popup ads.


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I always feel dumb having a back and forth with someone on the board (and i believe it's usually looked at negatively anyway) but what can i say i have more to say about Opera so I've just edited it on to this post and maybe it'll help me feel less dumb.

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Anyway, what i like about the opera pop up stoppa is that it's just a matter of hitting f12 to turn it on or off. from what I've seen with Netscape (and probably MoZil) it takes a lot more work to play with the settings to get things going right.

Also another cool feature is the page zoom and also designer mode for those pages where you just can't read the text against the background (or as they put it, for poorly designed web pages) It was very helpful for all the Kings themed days here at slash. and all just a simple mouse gesture away. they have truly thought of everything.

The only problem i have with Opera is i have problems with cookies sometimes. The cookies at weinerville and most places that just need to remember my username or password work fine. But i have a lot of problem logging into Hotmail, persumably because of cookies. other than that i think I'm Opera 4 Life. One day i may even pay for a copy.

Oh and i can never get shockwave things to work right either but that's why I've kept IE on my comp. That and for pages designed with IE specific HTML
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so are edited additions prefered to entirely new posts or what?


(edited by anibanging on 9.6.02 1339)
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The main problem I have with Opera's popup stopping option is that it blocks all javascript popups, not just the ones that appear when a page loads. A board I moderate uses the window.open javascript thingy to generate a popup thingy with all the information needed to do stuff to people (like ban them, and delete all their posts). But when I use opera with popups disabled, it don't work).

Mozilla's option to stop popups is specifically for ones that appear when a page is loaded.

I like opera's mouse gestures though.
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I only use Opera when I goto sites that have excessive pop-ups (IE, 1wrestling).

As for Netscape vs. IE, to me, its 6 of 1, 1/2 dozen of the other.





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Since: 9.12.01
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I'm tellin ya - try Mozilla out for a spin. The reason to not use IE is simple - the web should not be owned by a company that feels like it is more important than standards. Mozilla is all about standards.

I know, you don't care as an end user... but imagine a hardware store where every nut or screw was proprietary. You wouldnt like that, right? That's why standards are good... it's not just important that things work.

//edit: PS this from someone who runs Win2k server, IIS, IE, and MS*SQL at work where I get paid and MySQL, Apache, and Opera / Netscape / Mozilla at home.

(edited by Guru Zim on 9.6.02 1806)


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Since: 2.1.02
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#12 Posted on
I'm tellin ya - try Mozilla out for a spin.

As noted in another post, I did. I went right back to IE.

The reason to not use IE is simple - the web should not be owned by a company that feels like it is more important than standards. Mozilla is all about standards.

I'd rather have a browser that works, thank you.

Mike





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#13 Posted on
    Originally posted by Guru Zim
    I'm tellin ya - try Mozilla out for a spin. The reason to not use IE is simple - the web should not be owned by a company that feels like it is more important than standards. Mozilla is all about standards.


Well I got me some MoZil today and gave it a quick how do you do. I have the same issues with it that I have with netscape. Mainly that it's kinda ugly and generally too "busy" looking.

Anyway, I agree that IE should be avoided whenever possible and I'm just curious why you prefer MoZil to Opera. I'm not trying to start a browser turf-war or anything I really am just curious and you seem to know your browsers. so how bout it? what makes mozilla preferable to Opera? Is it simply the preference for open code programing?

And is there anyway to change what the browser is identified as within mozilla? (i.e in Opera you can get it to represent as IE or netscape etc. which helps when using hotmail.)



(edited by anibanging on 10.6.02 0011)
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#14 Posted on
IE sucks. It crashes all the time. I'm going to get Mozilla setup in the next couple days and hope it doesn't die on me.

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anibanging: go here and get the pinball skin, It's a good, non-busy (with tiny buttons) skin. The classic theme is pure evil, and modern is too big.

I'm the kind of guy who switches primary browsers every 3 to 6 months. And in defense of IE, it doesn't suck completely, nor does it crash all the time. And if it does crash all the time, that's a sign of some other problem (unless your running IE 3 or 4...).
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#16 Posted on
    Originally posted by Fuzzy Logic
    anibanging: go here and get the pinball skin, It's a good, non-busy (with tiny buttons) skin. The classic theme is pure evil, and modern is too big.


Actually I went with the IE theme. What can I say, I may not like the IE program but i've gotten pretty used to the look. For now i'm sticking with Opera with MoZil as my "jeez this page really doesn't open right with Opera" backup.

P.S is there a keyboard shortcut to highlight the address bar?

(edited by anibanging on 10.6.02 1124)
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#17 Posted on
I like it right now for a silly reason.

Opera forces Times on me when I'm viewing WVille, but Mozilla is displaying it just like it looks in IE.

Must be my silly use of the font tag. Still, it puts it over for me. Lots of people use the font tag.



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Since: 14.2.02
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Okay, Guru, did you put some kind of IE killing code in this thread? IE hasn't crashed on me yet, but as soon as I finished reading the thread, BANG, frozen.

I'm a sucker for peer pressure. I got Mozilla, but the pictures look funny, so I'm gonna stick with IE for a while.

Ike

(edit - me fail english? That's unpossible)

(edited by Ike on 10.6.02 1802)


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Since: 9.12.01
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#19 Posted on
Try a skin. The default skin is very old school Netscape. There are some cool ones.



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#20 Posted on

    Originally posted by anibanging
    P.S is there a keyboard shortcut to highlight the address bar?


Ctrl-L, just like it's always been. (In older versions of Netscape and in IE, it opens an "address Window" or some such, in Mozilla it does what I view as the "right thing" and jumps straight to the address bar.)

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