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Since: 25.4.03
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.67

Looks like the Angle/Reigns/Jindrak alliance on last night's Smackdown was definitely not a one time thing. Angle confirms his new "group" in a kayfabed interview at WWE.com.

http://www.wwe.com/news/headlines/1277813
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.27
So which of the recently-registered names will be used (if either)?

"The Establishment" or "The Honor Society"?

I'd pick the first one for Angle's faction.



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.70
How about "The Really Shitty Guys."
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.11
    Originally posted by JMShapiro
    How about "The Really Shitty Guys."


A fitting name!

Maybe they could bring back Mordecai, Dink and Techno Team 2000 and let them join that faction as well!?



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.67
    Originally posted by JMShapiro
    How about "The Really Shitty Guys."


But, think about how much better Orton & Batista have gotten since being a part of Evolution ...
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.94
    Originally posted by Mayhem
      Originally posted by JMShapiro
      How about "The Really Shitty Guys."


    But, think about how much better Orton & Batista have gotten since being a part of Evolution ...


Jindrak's been on my TV longer than Orton or Batista, and he has yet to show signs of improvement. Maybe hanging out with Kurt will improve him, but my breath remains unheld.

Reigns I'm willing to concede the jury is still out on. I'm waiting to see how he handles his match with Eddie -- whether he can pull his own weight or whether he just lets Eddie carry it.

Wonder if Kurt will be adding more members. Four would make them look too much like Evolution-wannabes (which, if you think about it, means they'd be a copy of a copy of the Four Horsemen). Five or more sounds a bit unwieldy.

(edited by Shem the Penman on 25.9.04 1143)


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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.75
    Originally posted by Shem the Penman



    Wonder if Kurt will be adding more members. Four would make them look too much like Evolution-wannabes (which, if you think about it, means they'd be a copy of a copy of the Four Horsemen). Five or more sounds a bit unwieldy.

    (edited by Shem the Penman on 25.9.04 1143)


I've always thought that four was the ideal size for a faction, what with two singles wrestlers and one tag team. Three to me has alwys seemed like a mere alliance, a tag team with one more friend. If they are making this faction a focal point of the show, then one more wrestler is important to truly establisyh dominance.

I think a cruiserweight would be a fine addition, but the best option (Jamie Noble) left WWE, so I'm kinda stuck for who the next best is.
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.67
    Originally posted by madiq
      Originally posted by Shem the Penman



      Wonder if Kurt will be adding more members. Four would make them look too much like Evolution-wannabes (which, if you think about it, means they'd be a copy of a copy of the Four Horsemen). Five or more sounds a bit unwieldy.

      (edited by Shem the Penman on 25.9.04 1143)


    I've always thought that four was the ideal size for a faction, what with two singles wrestlers and one tag team. Three to me has alwys seemed like a mere alliance, a tag team with one more friend. If they are making this faction a focal point of the show, then one more wrestler is important to truly establisyh dominance.

    I think a cruiserweight would be a fine addition, but the best option (Jamie Noble) left WWE, so I'm kinda stuck for who the next best is.


I'd love to see Charlie Haas added to this group, but he's has a decent thing going on with Miss Jackie & Rico.

My gut tells me that they add a heel cruiserweight so that they can have someone compete in that divsion. Maybe Kidman, or judging from the little mean streak we've seen as of late from Paul London, he might make a nice fit too.
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.42
F'N SHAPIRO: How about "The Really Shitty Guys."

How about not being so GODdamned negative! WWE 24/7! They still luv us!

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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.28
    Originally posted by Shem the Penman
      Originally posted by Mayhem
        Originally posted by JMShapiro
        How about "The Really Shitty Guys."


      But, think about how much better Orton & Batista have gotten since being a part of Evolution ...


    Jindrak's been on my TV longer than Orton or Batista, and he has yet to show signs of improvement. Maybe hanging out with Kurt will improve him, but my breath remains unheld.

    Reigns I'm willing to concede the jury is still out on. I'm waiting to see how he handles his match with Eddie -- whether he can pull his own weight or whether he just lets Eddie carry it.

    Wonder if Kurt will be adding more members. Four would make them look too much like Evolution-wannabes (which, if you think about it, means they'd be a copy of a copy of the Four Horsemen). Five or more sounds a bit unwieldy.

    (edited by Shem the Penman on 25.9.04 1143)


Actually Orton and Batista both made the main roster full-time when they joined Smackdown in the Summer of 2002. Jindrak began working Raw in the Summer of 2003. But I would agree with your point that Jindrak is unimpressive.

If they want to do Evolution V 2.0 (or The Four Horseman V 3.) with Angle playing HHH, they ought to go with Reigns as an Enforcer and put in Charlie Haas and if you really want to shake things up, put Cena in as a heel (yeah, he's really over and that counts for a lot, but he's losing his edge quick and this could shake things up, thought it would create a need for a new top tier face).
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.70
Charlie Haas is a no-brainer, if you can bear to abandon the fun with gays storyline. Reigns can stick around because they've already established that relationship and he's not the worst ever. It's Jindrak that turns the thing into a joke, or moreso the combined efforts of Jindrak and Luther since they both stink. The sad thing is, there aren't really any non-cruiserweights left on that side who can work except for the Bashams, and they'd be kind of weird in a Team Angle.
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.16
    Originally posted by BigSteve
      Originally posted by Shem the Penman
        Originally posted by Mayhem
          Originally posted by JMShapiro
          How about "The Really Shitty Guys."


        But, think about how much better Orton & Batista have gotten since being a part of Evolution ...


      Jindrak's been on my TV longer than Orton or Batista, and he has yet to show signs of improvement. Maybe hanging out with Kurt will improve him, but my breath remains unheld.

      Reigns I'm willing to concede the jury is still out on. I'm waiting to see how he handles his match with Eddie -- whether he can pull his own weight or whether he just lets Eddie carry it.

      Wonder if Kurt will be adding more members. Four would make them look too much like Evolution-wannabes (which, if you think about it, means they'd be a copy of a copy of the Four Horsemen). Five or more sounds a bit unwieldy.

      (edited by Shem the Penman on 25.9.04 1143)


    Actually Orton and Batista both made the main roster full-time when they joined Smackdown in the Summer of 2002. Jindrak began working Raw in the Summer of 2003.


Jindrak was wrestling on TV for WCW by atleast September 2000. He and Sean O'Haire won the Tag Titles in September 2000.
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.63
Jindrak was apart of the Invasion remember, I think he made one Raw appearence and several Heat appearences. I don't like Jinndrak but i do like Reigns, he can talk very well and has alot of time to get better in the ring so get off his back.
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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.26
Reigns is far from being terrible. I'm actually quite looking forward to his match with Eddie at No Mercy. It should be far better than sticking Eddie in with, say, Heidenreich or Kenzo Suzuki or something.



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.16
I agree that Charlie Haas is a no brainer, which is why it was completely stupid to me when Jindrak joined them, but I suppose if they still end up adding him then that's ok.

I agree with madiq that 3 doesn't really seem like a stable but more of an alliance, think Edge & Christian and Angle. The three of them hung out together and were pretty much just an alliance, then when Rhyno joined them they were referred to as Team R.E.C.K. It wasn't until the fourth guy that they were considered a group.

Other than Haas the only other guy I can think of is London. Cena I think could have a successful heel turn, but you don't really need Cena (or Booker for that matter) in the stable because they'd be the number 2 guy behind Angle, elminating them from being a main event option.

How long is Chavo injured, he has history with Eddie, he could work.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.70
F'n Lea: "How about not being so GODdamned negative!"

OK. Mark Jindrak the bad wrestler has incredible abs. (Remember, everyone, you can't target stomach fat with crunches.)


hhhxxx: "i do like Reigns, he can talk very well and has alot of time to get better in the ring so get off his back."

I agree that Reigns is worthwhile. By himself as the muscle it'd be fine, but when the extent of your group so far is the not good Jindrak and the not good either Reigns, then everyone on your team besides you is crap, mate.


Hey, heyyyy, they could always pull the ol' switcheroo from injury and bring Garrison Cade back on Smackdown. Reunited and it feels so good. They'd still be The Alliance of Generic, Mediocre Tall Guys, but at least Cade is decent. Throw in Maven and Kurt can have all of Evolution's "sloppy" "seconds."

(edited by JMShapiro on 25.9.04 2130)
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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.68
X-E's co-Worst Poster of all time! JKyle.com says:

I doubt Jindrak (and his relative worthlessness) will drag down the group. He didn't drag down the New Blood, though that may have been the fact that he had Palumbo to compare himself to.

Besides, every faction needs a fall guy to take the pin.

Horsemen=Mongo
Flock=Scotty Riggs
MIA=Chavo
DX=Road Dogg

He's in good company.



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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.74
    Originally posted by AngryJohnny
    Besides, every faction needs a fall guy to take the pin.

    Horsemen=Mongo
    Flock=Scotty Riggs
    MIA=Chavo
    DX=Road Dogg



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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.27
With Evolution's matches, it's usually Batista who takes the fall in any 6- or 8-man tags.



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X-E's co-Worst Poster of all time! JKyle.com says:

    Originally posted by geemoney
      Originally posted by AngryJohnny
      Besides, every faction needs a fall guy to take the pin.

      Horsemen=Mongo
      Flock=Scotty Riggs
      MIA=Chavo
      DX=Road Dogg



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