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Kurt Angle cleared of several charges: "A judge has cleared professional wrestler and Olympic gold medalist Kurt Angle of charges he violated a protection order and illegally possessed human growth hormone." The judge "also dismissed charges that Angle was driving with a suspended license."

My favorite quote: "Angle said he will be more careful about who he associates with in the future."

Angle is still facing an assault charge.

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TNA releases BG James and Jim Cornette: James was working as an agent and Cornette apparently "had been working in the production truck at the Impact tapings and helping a lot of the younger talent," according to PWInsider.

Meltzer opines that it's "part of an apparent move to eliminate those closest to Jeff Jarrett."

I don't really know what all their jobs entailed or if they were any good at them, so apply grains of salt as necessary, but this -- particularly Cornette -- feels like they're getting into "cutting off your nos​e to spite your face" territory.

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    Originally posted by Karlos the Jackal


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    TNA releases BG James and Jim Cornette: James was working as an agent and Cornette apparently "had been working in the production truck at the Impact tapings and helping a lot of the younger talent," according to PWInsider.

    Meltzer opines that it's "part of an apparent move to eliminate those closest to Jeff Jarrett."

    I don't really know what all their jobs entailed or if they were any good at them, so apply grains of salt as necessary, but this -- particularly Cornette -- feels like they're getting into "cutting off your nos​e to spite your face" territory.

    --K

    (edited by Karlos the Jackal on 16.9.09 0113)







That's the way it has pretty much always has been in wrestling and in history, if you are on the wrong end of a power struggle, you're gone, unless you can make large sums of money for the new person in charge. Then, they'll tolerate you until you can't make them money, in which case you hope another power struggle has occurred that has had more favorable results.
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I have heard a rumor that Dixie Carter wants to do a clean slate in the booking after Bound for Glory. So, does that mean Russo is going to be gone too or he is going to get more power? I would hope the MEM storyline heads to end, but I doubt it. I don't agree with everything that Cornette says, but at least he knows how to book matches. BG was getting some good reviews as an agent, so if this some petty revenge firing for JJ banging Karen then TNA as dump as some people believe. TNA needs to have credible people inside and out of the company, firing one person is a cemented credible mind and another one that is building positive momentum is just stupid. Cornette is not going to stay quiet either and I am sure Vince will hire him just to sway some TNA guys to come to or back to WWE. Road Dogg is just one Kip firing away to go to WWE and spark some life into this boring ass DX stable.

Plus, Kurt's arrest did more PR damage then anything that was said on Bubba Love shows. Even though Kurt has been proven innocent, he does no one any favors being the face of the company. At least, Vince has the common sense to get people out of the spotlight and then push them when the hysteria dies down. Dixie or whoever is running the show has to stop being a Kurt mark and realize what is best for business is not necessarily the best for Kurt. Also, I can't remember the last good one on one match Kurt had either that didn't have JJ in it.
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Kurt's assault charge is still going strong, which would suggest there's maybe a bit more credence to that one.

I can't believe the monumental stupidity of Dixie Carter seemingly setting TNA up as an Angle-run show, given the guy's serious track record of problems. Jarrett's a lot of things, but a disaster waiting to happen isn't one of them.
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BG James is well liked and from all reports was doing a good job but the same things were said about Pat Kenney and D'Lo Brown. When it was time to cut back on road agents, they both had to go because they weren't boys with Jarrett like BG James, so I don't really feel sorry for BG being on the other side of it now.

Speaking of Kenney and D'Lo, I read one report that they are possible replacements for BG. I don't know if there is really anything behind that or if that is just a logical guess since Dixie in particular was the one that liked them. Kenney was on Between the Ropes a few weeks ago though and made it sound like an offer would have to be awfully good for him to come back. Can't really blame him since by all accounts he did really well last time and still got released.

Cornette can book matches, but as far as I know, that wasn't his job so it's not really relevant. If TNA is keeping Russo and Cornette is not booking then I'm not sure what keeping Cornette accomplishes. If TNA does decide to get rid of Russo then maybe getting rid of Cornette isn't so smart.

    Originally posted by lotjx
    Also, I can't remember the last good one on one match Kurt had either that didn't have JJ in it.


Looking at his past PPV matches he hasn't had a one-on-one match with a really good opponent since Hard Justice 2008. On Impact he rarely wrestles and when he does it's usually multiple wrestler matches. So yeah he hasn't had many great one-on-one matches lately, but he hasn't had many one-on-one matches against good opponents at all. Hard to fault Kurt for TNA's lousy booking.



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    Originally posted by Quezzy
    Cornette can book matches, but as far as I know, that wasn't his job so it's not really relevant. If TNA is keeping Russo and Cornette is not booking then I'm not sure what keeping Cornette accomplishes. If TNA does decide to get rid of Russo then maybe getting rid of Cornette isn't so smart.


Pretty sure that's what the problem is, there. The relevancy is that, with TNA's lousy booking, they SHOULD get ride of Russo and keep Cornette. Instead they've done the opposite.


    Looking at his past PPV matches he hasn't had a one-on-one match with a really good opponent since Hard Justice 2008. On Impact he rarely wrestles and when he does it's usually multiple wrestler matches. So yeah he hasn't had many great one-on-one matches lately, but he hasn't had many one-on-one matches against good opponents at all. Hard to fault Kurt for TNA's lousy booking.


It's not hard to fault him given that he's apparently moved into a similar type of power position that Jarrett previously held down. I'm pretty sure if Kurt wanted to work exclusively against Styles, Daniels and Joe for the next six months, that's what we'd be seeing.

(edited by Amos Cochran on 16.9.09 0845)
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    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    Kurt's assault charge is still going strong, which would suggest there's maybe a bit more credence to that one.
"Going strong" would be hyperbole. Kurt's lawyers produced the documentation (prescriptions & court paperwork re the driver's license) which rendered those charges completely unsubstantiated. Since the protection order was issued partially based on those charges, the "stalking" was dropped too. Those are all paperwork things that the lawyers can handle with the judge ahead of time. The remaining simple assault charge is totally a "she said / he said" kind of thing, which will have to be heard before it can be dismissed. Unless she retracts her story first -- which, IMO, would probably be the brightest thing for her to do at this point.
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    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
      Originally posted by Quezzy
      Cornette can book matches, but as far as I know, that wasn't his job so it's not really relevant. If TNA is keeping Russo and Cornette is not booking then I'm not sure what keeping Cornette accomplishes. If TNA does decide to get rid of Russo then maybe getting rid of Cornette isn't so smart.


    Pretty sure that's what the problem is, there. The relevancy is that, with TNA's lousy booking, they SHOULD get ride of Russo and keep Cornette. Instead they've done the opposite.
I believe Cornette's said on more than one occaasion that he's not interested in having the book (I've read it in a few places over the last year, and have no cite at the moment). That may only mean, "I'm not interested under the current situation," of course, but still.

(It may also mean, for instance, "I'm not interested unless the alternative is no job at all," but now we're just speculating wildly.)

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    Originally posted by lotjx
    Cornette is not going to stay quiet either and I am sure Vince will hire him just to sway some TNA guys to come to or back to WWE.
I agree that Cornette isnt going to stay quiet and I'm looking forward to hearing whatever he has to say about his time in TNA, but I dont think WWE needs any help signing folks away from TNA. I also wouldnt mind him joining the WWE Creative Team, but arent they already like 20 deep?


    Road Dogg is just one Kip firing away to go to WWE and spark some life into this boring ass DX stable.
Road Dogg & Kip are NOT the answer to DX's boredom (boringness?) problem, not in the slightest. And I'm pretty sure that bridge has been thoroughly burned. Didnt they appear on a (non-TNA-produced) "shoot" DVD trashing Vince, WWE, and HHH real nasty-like a couple years ago? I think it was during their Voodoo Kin Mafia angle.




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    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze

      Road Dogg is just one Kip firing away to go to WWE and spark some life into this boring ass DX stable.
    Road Dogg & Kip are NOT the answer to DX's boredom (boringness?) problem, not in the slightest. And I'm pretty sure that bridge has been thoroughly burned. Didnt they appear on a (non-TNA-produced) "shoot" DVD trashing Vince, WWE, and HHH real nasty-like a couple years ago? I think it was during their Voodoo Kin Mafia angle.



I can't think of anyone that remembers the failure and the petty garbage that was the Voodoo Kin Mafia. But I'll bet you Vince does. Vince never forgets.




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"Thanks everyone for your kind words but, we are REALLY ok about all of this.Gives us more time to make QUALITY products for Cornette's Collectibles and devote our time to wrestling we actually enjoy being apart of."

Emphasis mine -- ouch!

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***EDIT! Here's this, from U.K.'s "The Sun":
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Selected quotes (from an unnamed source, so again, salt to taste):
"JIM CORNETTE was fired by TNA after throwing one temper tantrum too many"
"'Everyone was in a production meeting with Russo running down the show, but Cornette went nuts screaming "why are we pushing Eric Young?"'"
"'This wasn't politics or anything to do with Jeff. It was purely a decision prompted by the same behaviour that got Jim fired in WWE.'"

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    Originally posted by It's False
    I can't think of anyone that remembers the failure and the petty garbage that was the Voodoo Kin Mafia. But I'll bet you Vince does. Vince never forgets.
Eh, none of that seems like much of a barrier as long as there's enough of an upside to bringing him back. But is there?

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    Originally posted by Karlos the Jackal
    ***EDIT! Here's this, from U.K.'s "The Sun":
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    Selected quotes (from an unnamed source, so again, salt to taste):
    "JIM CORNETTE was fired by TNA after throwing one temper tantrum too many"
    "'Everyone was in a production meeting with Russo running down the show, but Cornette went nuts screaming "why are we pushing Eric Young?"'"
    "'This wasn't politics or anything to do with Jeff. It was purely a decision prompted by the same behaviour that got Jim fired in WWE.'"


Haha, that's awesome. I, too, am baffled by their sudden desire to make Eric F'n Young seemingly into the second-biggest heel in the company. I just don't think he's got the charisma or wrestling ability to warrent it, and I'm fed up of him being all over every damn show. Imagine if the 'E suddenly decided that Santino should be a top heel, deadly serious and complete with his own massive stable. That's what this feels like to me. I don't dislike EY, but given the horrendous way Joe's heel push has been handled and given the directionless booking of Daniel, the MCMG, Jay Lethal, and so on, it does just seem like the creative team booking for themselves rather than for any worthwhile purpose.
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    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
      Originally posted by lotjx
      Cornette is not going to stay quiet either and I am sure Vince will hire him just to sway some TNA guys to come to or back to WWE.
    I agree that Cornette isnt going to stay quiet and I'm looking forward to hearing whatever he has to say about his time in TNA, but I dont think WWE needs any help signing folks away from TNA. I also wouldnt mind him joining the WWE Creative Team, but arent they already like 20 deep?


      Road Dogg is just one Kip firing away to go to WWE and spark some life into this boring ass DX stable.
    Road Dogg & Kip are NOT the answer to DX's boredom (boringness?) problem, not in the slightest. And I'm pretty sure that bridge has been thoroughly burned. Didnt they appear on a (non-TNA-produced) "shoot" DVD trashing Vince, WWE, and HHH real nasty-like a couple years ago? I think it was during their Voodoo Kin Mafia angle.



I believe Cornette recently said (paraphrasing) "the two things I hope I never do again are get in an airplane and work for Vince McMahon."



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    Looking at his past PPV matches he hasn't had a one-on-one match with a really good opponent since Hard Justice 2008. On Impact he rarely wrestles and when he does it's usually multiple wrestler matches. So yeah he hasn't had many great one-on-one matches lately, but he hasn't had many one-on-one matches against good opponents at all. Hard to fault Kurt for TNA's lousy booking.


It's not hard to fault him given that he's apparently moved into a similar type of power position that Jarrett previously held down. I'm pretty sure if Kurt wanted to work exclusively against Styles, Daniels and Joe for the next six months, that's what we'd be seeing.

(edited by Amos Cochran on 16.9.09 0845)


Even if Kurt Angle has power now, which I don't think has ever been officially reported by anyone, then what does that have to do with not being booked properly in the past? He didn't have power during the last year when he was booked in lots of tag matches, triple threat matches and singles matches with old has beens. If Kurt is in charge now then he's actually doing a good job because Impact is the best it's been in months and Kurt Angle is feuding with Matt Morgan, not a 40 year old has been.

As for Eric Young, I have no problem with pushing new wrestlers. Everybody has complained about the lack of pushes for years now and suddenly TNA is pushing Eric Young, Matt Morgan, and Hernandez. The Pope looks like he'll get a good run. They've brought in Tara, Sarita and Hamada in the women's division. Beer Money was pushed to the top and I don't think they're done with the British Invasion either. They're trying to do something with MCMG and it seems pretty clear that AJ Styles is getting Sting's retirement match and maybe the title at Bound for Glory.

Maybe that's not exactly every person you would choose to push, but they're pushing new people. It's 10 times better than TNA has ever done. I don't even think the new people they are pushing are doing a bad job. Maybe Eric Young and Matt Morgan aren't the new Stone Cold and the Rock, but Stone Cold and the Rock weren't even Stone Cold and the Rock the first time they were pushed in the WWE. I don't remember anybody liking Dolph Ziggler or MVP early on. A lot of people thought CM Punk was overrated at first. You can't just use a guy for a month and decide he's never going to make it. You have to give them a chance.

At the very least the new Eric Young is better than the old Eric Young wasting space, so it is an improvement from the old Impact.



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How have Beer Money been pushed to the top? They're exactly where they've always been, albeit as partners instead of one half of another team.

So they're pshing new people. Who holds all the titles? Add their ages up. When was the last guy under forty to get a one-on-one PPV match for the title? All the guys you mentioned might be getting more TV time, but there's zero upward mobility in TNA.
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    Originally posted by odessasteps
      Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
        Originally posted by lotjx
        Cornette is not going to stay quiet either and I am sure Vince will hire him just to sway some TNA guys to come to or back to WWE.
      I agree that Cornette isnt going to stay quiet and I'm looking forward to hearing whatever he has to say about his time in TNA, but I dont think WWE needs any help signing folks away from TNA. I also wouldnt mind him joining the WWE Creative Team, but arent they already like 20 deep?


    I believe Cornette recently said (paraphrasing) "the two things I hope I never do again are get in an airplane and work for Vince McMahon."
What about as on-air talent? I mean Bischoff was very effective as RAW's GM, and I think that the same could be said of Cornette if or when Raw's "Guest Host" idea runs through.

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In other TNA news, those, er... "long awaited" Traci Brooks Playboy pics that didn't end up in Playboy and were relegated to the Playboy Cyber Club, are now available at various Internet outlets that display such things.

The pictorial and Traci resemble Chyna Part Deux. Actually, Part Trois since Chyna posed twice.

It is amusing however that it seems like Playboy had her pose in a Bentley. Heh. (Get it? She used to be Matt Bentley's valet. Heh.)
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PWTorch says that TNA has hired D'Lo Brown and Pat Kenney as agents to replace Cornette and James.

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**EDIT! And more, from PWInsider:

Click Here (pwinsider.com)

Basically, PWInsider refutes the Eric Young story and says that Cornette leaving was completely amicable, and that he may even come back after taking a break.

The Sun has recanted their version, saying: "However, we now accept that this account was inaccurate." Click Here (thesun.co.uk)

So, yeah, who knows.

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(edited by Karlos the Jackal on 19.9.09 0027)


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