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|  #1 Posted on 15.4.04 0129.29 | Instant Rating: 6.11 | I gotta Gunn's sacrifice was shocking, but understandable. Goddamn I missed this show and man am I glad to see it again. Superb episode this week, with highlights going to the opening one-man meeting, the vamps' initial reaction to the alternate dimension sunlight & the kickass "S&M demon" in the basement.
Oh and, Harmony gets opening credit treatment, rock on! Damn late in the season, but rock on nonetheless.
Discuss.
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Toulouse
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|  #2 Posted on 15.4.04 0136.01 | Instant Rating: 6.30 | The show picked up like it never left. It's interesting to see the recovery from Fred's death. The Wesley dream sequence was shocking to say the least, and Gunn's sacrifice for Lindsay was even more.
It's nice to see Adam Baldwin jump to Angel. (I think this means he's done all 3 Joss shows, since I seem to recall him appearing in the early seasons of Buffy.) Is there anybody from Firefly left to jump to a Joss show? =)
The new opening was interesting. Except for the group shot at the end, all of Amy Acker's appearances seemed to have been as Illyria.
(Re: Your sig. You're lucky just meeting Chris Daniels. I had to work next to that bastidge when he ran the gorilla position. High strung to the extreme.)
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| #3 Posted on 15.4.04 0828.37 | Instant Rating: 5.24 | I'm suspicious of Lindsey claiming Team Angel has lost "two soldiers." At my count, they've recently lost three: Fred, Cordelia and Gunn. Makes me wonder if this is a slip or whether one of them ain't really gone.
My vote: Fred. I say she's still in there somewhere.
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| #4 Posted on 15.4.04 1038.20 | As for losing three soldiers, they DID lose Cordelia at the end of last season, despite that little pop back, they don't seem to mention her much... hrmmm.
And Wes and Illyria mentioning the dimension with nothing but shrimp... oh man. Good reference. And poor Anya.
Good episode with a ton of set-up, although I hate the WB. The opening promos mentioning that Darla and Drusilla are coming back? Mother fuckers, I'd managed to avoid that bit of spoiler-monkery for weeks now.
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| #5 Posted on 15.4.04 1106.06 | Instant Rating: 3.20 | Originally posted by Matt Tracker
I'm suspicious of Lindsey claiming Team Angel has lost "two soldiers." At my count, they've recently lost three: Fred, Cordelia and Gunn. Makes me wonder if this is a slip or whether one of them ain't really gone.
My vote: Fred. I say she's still in there somewhere.
Fred was Smurf-ized while Lindsey was off in W&H's holding dimension, so it's entirely possible he doesn't know.
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Toulouse
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| #6 Posted on 15.4.04 1314.51 | Instant Rating: 6.30 | Originally posted by Matt Tracker
I'm suspicious of Lindsey claiming Team Angel has lost "two soldiers." At my count, they've recently lost three: Fred, Cordelia and Gunn. Makes me wonder if this is a slip or whether one of them ain't really gone.
My vote: Fred. I say she's still in there somewhere.
Lindsay likely refers to Fred & Gunn.
Fred's gone. She's dead. Although I'm guessing Illyria will eventually be more Fred-like. Gunn's obviously going to return at some point, as he's still in the Upcoming episode bits.
And I'm amused as hell about Illyria being annoyed about being called a smurf, even if she doesn't know what they are.
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| #7 Posted on 15.4.04 1323.24 | Instant Rating: 7.14 | If Lindsay doesn't know about Fred, the last he saw of Cordelia was when she was helping Angel fight him, so he's probably up to speed on everything. Then again, he left the first time before Fred showed up, so maybe he didn't count her to begin with, but I doubt that.
Last night was awesome, and if the remaining episodes are as strong as this, the Angel finale may be better than the close of Buffy season 3, which is the high point, imho.
I didn't see anything in particular about Darla and Drucilla coming back in those teasers beyond flashback appearances, which I'm kinda glad about, cuz its always nice to see some old faces one last time before the end.
So now we get a new liason, around the same time that Jasmine and that Reverend guy fled from Firefly last year. It was awesome when he punched straight through the guard and then they cut to the shot of Harmony, Eve, and Lorne screaming in the window. I thought when lawyer-guy went for Harmony, after she was just put into the credits, Joss was pulling another Tara (put her in the credits and then kill her that same episode.) Was it just me or when he entered Eve's place at the beginning did he give off an Agent Smith type vibe?
That parallel universe with Lindsay as "Ward", as Spike called him, was awesome. Agreed that the shrimp reference was a nice touch.
I like that Lindsay laid it all out for Angel as to how everything sits. It explains why Giles and co. have been so adversarial. This episode was written after finding out about cancellation, right? "Not an apocalypse -- THE apocalypse" indeed. It makes sense that W&H would make sure the apocalypse would happen on their timetable and that their timetable would coincide with Angel working for them.
So now it looks like Angel is going to lose everyone one by one until he can somehow fix everything. This is going to get REAL interesting.
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| Who had episode 18 in the when will Connor return pool? Seems early to me, but DAMN! |
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|  #8 Posted on 15.4.04 1324.11 | Instant Rating: 5.23 | Harm made the credits? AWESOME. Although they gotsta be getting pretty crowded again.
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| #9 Posted on 15.4.04 1533.22 | Instant Rating: 5.71 | Was Christian Kane mentioned in the guest starring part. I didn't notice his name so I wasn't expecting him to be in that episode, I'm glad he was though. They dropped Gunn, and added Lindsey? Man that's gotta be the best trade ever. Although I did like Gunn this episode for the first time.
My guess is that Lindsey seems to know everything that's goin on. So I figure he knows what happened to Fred AND knows what happened to Cordelia and probably even knew she was actually dead (or dying or whatever she was) last time they met. And he probably knew that she was in the whole coma thing too. After all he did have Eve, she's probably been feeding him information about the whole Angel clan. So I'm guessing he is counting her and he knows something about either Fred or Gunn that we don't know.
And then there's also the whole thing about Spike being welcomed to "the team".
I was interested in how they were going to bring back Darla and Drusilla, the commercial did just show them flashbacks though, so maybe that's their only part. It would be interesting for them to play some part in the end though. Of course last time we saw Darla she was a good guy...err...ghost, or whatever. Drusilla as far as we know is still bad.
The Connor return is kind of soon, but they don't have much choice, the show is about to end. I was too crazy about Connor's first run, but I'm actually glad to see him just return because it just shows that something big is about to go down.
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| #10 Posted on 15.4.04 1545.32 | Originally posted by Quezzy
Was Christian Kane mentioned in the guest starring part. I didn't notice his name so I wasn't expecting him to be in that episode,
He WAS mentioned in the credits as a "Special Guest Star" if I remember correctly.
And has Darla ever been back since she was staked and Connor was... born? I don't remember seeing her, although I did miss the beginning of Season 4. | oldschoolhero
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| #11 Posted on 15.4.04 1621.48 | Instant Rating: 5.23 | She appeared in "Inside Out" (I think) as an emmissary from the PTB, when Connor was going to kill a girl in order to annoint he and Cordy's "baby" with pure blood. Other than that, though, not a peep.
Also....
SPOILER....
Not sure if the preview showed this, but Connor's the only old face back next week. SAHJAN, BABY. Always wanted to see more of that guy.
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