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Something that bothered me about RAW this week:

Shane/Y2J was the main event. It was set up during the Highlite Reel segment. The semi-main was Christian/Lawler, which was set up during Coach's Employee of the Month segment. Both were scheduled the same week.

Now, in the "WWE Universe", that means that the last scheduled match would have been Randy Orton/Maven, which, had the previous encounters never happened, would have been your main event.

We always talk about the "little things" around here, and to me, this is a big "little thing". During the Clipboard RAW Era, Austin (or some other authority figure) would come out and literally run down the matches of the show, including the main event. The clipboard became an important character in the show. It certainly figured into the whole idea of "anything can happen in the WWF".

Nowadays, it seems like the main event is just thrown together (again, in storyline), the night of the show. Which seems to be poor planning, in a storyline sense. If we're supposed to suspend disbelief, and believe this is all spontaneous, then if Y2J doesn't whack Shane over the head, and Christian doesn't bitch about being ignored, then neither of those matches happen, and they've got a WHOLE lot of time to fill, plus the oh-so-exciting main event of Orton/Maven.

I know the WWE's favorite phrase is "Card subject to change", but that part of RAW has always bugged me. This doesn't seem to happen over on SmackDown!, as they seem to constantly hype their main events a week ahead of time, so small changes in the flow of the show don't seem as apparent.

Is it just me, or does this bug anyone else?



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#2 Posted on
A potential problem might be that, regardless of whether they announce it or not, there's not a whole lot to generate anticipation on the Raw side. (My opinion, of course, blah blah blah.) So leaving everything to the 'anything can happen' on Raw (BOLD FACED LIE) stigma, they might be hoping this lures and keeps us watching.

I don't know.

Then again, I turned off Raw after the soul-sucking Hi-Lite Reel segment this week, so what can I say?
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Yea RAW this past monday was pretty boring. I know that im going to have a lot of guys hate me for this but i think that they should go back to the way wrestling was a few years back, and wrestling wouldnt evolve around one person or group. For example, HHH is one of them. He gets more time than anyone on the WWE roster. The divas, when has wrestling stand for woman posing on a beach in a DVD. You dont see Hogan or the Rock with DVDs posing on a beach. Bring wrestling of the mid to late 80s back.



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#4 Posted on

    Originally posted by JrBernal83
    I know that im going to have a lot of guys hate me for this but i think that they should go back to the way wrestling was a few years back, and wrestling wouldnt evolve around one person or group. For example, HHH is one of them.


A lot of guys are gonna hate you for bashing the WWE and/or HHH? You must be new to this.



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Well, he'd probably get the "I hate you cause you bash HHH just like everyone else, SHEEP SHEEP BAAAAAAAAAH" hate.....



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.20
Actually, Raw has been good lately about hyping matches for next week's show. (not necessarily main events, but still...) I mean, we already have Coach vs. Lawler for next week!

For the most part, I enjoy the ad-hoc match planning on the Raw side. That way, I only have 45 minutes to get annoyed at the prospect of a Test/Steiner match instead of six days.



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    Originally posted by JrBernal83
    Yea RAW this past monday was pretty boring. I know that im going to have a lot of guys hate me for this but i think that they should go back to the way wrestling was a few years back, and wrestling wouldnt evolve around one person or group. For example, HHH is one of them. He gets more time than anyone on the WWE roster. The divas, when has wrestling stand for woman posing on a beach in a DVD. You dont see Hogan or the Rock with DVDs posing on a beach. Bring wrestling of the mid to late 80s back.


But Triple H got significantly LESS time than other wrestlers this week. For the past few months as well, he has had a match, or an interview, but rarely both. Other times he is in nothing but backstage segments.

We actually get a ton of Jericho usually, who hosts the highlight reel and has a match in the same night more often than not. Don't get me wrong, I'd rather see a bunch of Jericho than Trips, I'm just saying that Triple H doesn't command a huge amount of time compared to others anymore. Recently, the McMahons have been taking up a whole lot of time too (I'd rather see Trips than them, though.)

And I, at least, hope that the women stay the way they are because 9 times out of 10 they are the part of Raw I look forward to the most. Others probably will disagree, but I think they are usually some of the best parts of the show.



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I agree about the women. They aren't the part of the show I look forward to the most but I'm always very interested in what they'll do.

Back to the start of thread, with Raw only having one match set before they went on air:

The way I look at it, WWE is this touring group of fighters. They can pretty much fight whoever is in the company. Unless the announcers say otherwise, everyone in the brand shows up to every show. When they get there, some guys have matches and some guys don't. Of the guys who don't have matches, some of them have stroke enough to demand mic time or to force a match to happen.

After a PPV, it's believable to me that they wouldn't have very many matches set before the TV show. Maybe Maven got lippy back stage, complained about Orton being in the PPV main event and asked for the match. So they had that match set to go and "the bookers" (from a kayfabe POV) decided to let the people with stroke figure out who they wanted to fight (with Austin and Bischoff playing referee.) Just let the cards fall where they may, you know?



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#9 Posted on
    Originally posted by MollyFan2K2
    And I, at least, hope that the women stay the way they are because 9 times out of 10 they are the part of Raw I look forward to the most. Others probably will disagree, but I think they are usually some of the best parts of the show.


I was going to ask you why, until I noticed your username.
And I don't think his problem is necessarily with women in wrestling, but with women doing model like posing for DVDs which have nothing to do with wrestling. Of which of course, I agree, is it really necessary?

And speaking of his post, regarding the wrestling revolving around one guy...correct me if I'm wrong but didn't in "the old days" ago wrestling pretty much revolve around Hogan in a similar way? Although it was different, because Hogan got himself over and basically brought wrestling to the mainstream. But still.





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In the old days, Hogan was the Zeus at the top of the mountain... BUT he was rarely featured on the weekly shows like WWF Superstars. You'd only see him wrestle on house shows, the PPVs, and Saturday Night's Main Event. That's how they made so much money off Hogan -- seeing him in person was such a big deal, beacuse you don't get to see him on TV.







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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.44
    Originally posted by chill
    In the old days, Hogan was the Zeus at the top of the mountain... BUT he was rarely featured on the weekly shows like WWF Superstars. You'd only see him wrestle on house shows, the PPVs, and Saturday Night's Main Event. That's how they made so much money off Hogan -- seeing him in person was such a big deal, beacuse you don't get to see him on TV.


Ouch! You should never refer to Hogan as Zeus. Zeus is a movie star, while Hogan is not.

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