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#41 Posted on
So I've been applauded by half the board, and pissed on by the other half. I guess I'm a weiner now.

To answer the questions that have appeared since I've gone to bed -

1. Yes I'm happy to be part of Weinerville. Thank you.
2. No I did not think Triple H would read this, no more that those conservative's who write "open letters to the Hollywood bunch" expect Sean Penn to read their rantings. This was just a gimmick for a post.
3. This was clearly labled. If you didn't want to hear about Triple H, clicking on this made as much sense as walking voluntarly into a wall.

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#42 Posted on
This was the most idiotic post I have ever seen in my life.



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#43 Posted on

    Originally posted by RKMtwin
    And some of you wonder why we're sick of HHH? Sure, a Booker T title win at WM might seem like a hotshot title change, but for goodness' sake, it couldn't have hurt now, could it? Especially with the events of tonight's RAW. It would have made a lot of sense to see an incensed former champ align with Y2J to lay down a beating on the new champ, Booker T. Plus, ratings haven't been, shall we say, all that spectacular since, well, around the time HHH became the "World" Champion, right? RIGHT?


If Booker T won the match at WrestleMania, it wouldn't have been a "hot shot" at all. Given the historical build-up WrestleMania has always had, where the impossible happens and "dreams come true" or whatever, Booker T winning was entirely acceptable given the context.

They may have started building up Booker-H with less than a month to go until WrestleMania, but that doesn't take away from the longer-running storyline of "Who can beat HHH for his the stupid fake belt WWE made for him?" which has been going on for over six months now.

Booker T will never be a main eventer. He joins the list of the many stars WWE almost built up, but didn't pull the trigger on. If Booker T wins at Backlash it won't matter, because he blew the biggest match of his career. He's a choker.

If he ever wins that worthless belt, it will have taken him multiple title shots and the establishment that HHH is indeed superior, to finally win it. Booker T did not come out of the match at WrestleMania looking good. HHH kicked out of the Harlem Hangover, took his sweet time to cover Booker T and still got the win. Booker came out looking like a midcarder, and midcarders wrestle great matches but they can't beat the Big Guys. That's what we learned again at WrestleMania.

WrestleMania has always been about change and closure, and we got neither at WrestleMania. HHH's match with Booker T only furthered the perception that RAW does not have a title, it merely has a prop for HHH to stroke his ego with. Seriously, since the introduction of this belt, it has seemed more like the Million Dollar Belt than any sort of World Title. And that's after merging it with the IC, Euro, and Hardcore belts.

It amazes me that people still look for "proof" that HHH is ruining everything in his path. All you have to do is look at the path of wreckage behind him that's been going ever since he retired Mick Foley.
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#44 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.59
This was the most idiotic post I have ever seen in my life.

No, Bormiormark that was the stupidest idoitic post ever. I can try to write on people on this board see a thread like this and just rip the guy apart for writing it yet when its a thread about Jeff being gay or Rock or Jericho sucking then there they are ready to defend that thread to their dying days. Its almost laughable at what you guys condone on this board and when some writes an editorial thread which is meant for discussion you bitch and complain that we don't need to hear it. Yet, there about five different posts about Raw in about an hour or worse the threads that state HHH is a God are ok write?

A Fan- I am seeing a pattern here and I really don't care for it.
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#45 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.95

    Originally posted by BoromirMark
    This was the most idiotic post I have ever seen in my life.


That is really funny, coming from you.



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#46 Posted on
I still like HHH so I was glad he won. Guess what? There are still HHH fans out there!



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#47 Posted on

    Originally posted by A Fan
    A Fan- I am seeing a pattern here and I really don't care for it.
This is the pattern where you include a bon mot after your name at the end of every post, right?



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#48 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.59
This is the pattern where you include a bon mot after your name at the end of every post, right?

Yes, yes it is. We all have gimmicks, Mr. Yellow font.

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#49 Posted on

This is the pattern where you include a bon mot after your name at the end of every post, right?


I'm just curious. Why does that bother you so much? Almost everyone here has their little sigfiles, quotes and various posting quirks. Is A Fan's posting style really that different?

CS - Or perhaps you just needed to complain about something. 0:-)

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#50 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.91

    Originally posted by SKLOKAZOID
    Booker T did not come out of the match at WrestleMania looking good. HHH kicked out of the Harlem Hangover, took his sweet time to cover Booker T and still got the win. Booker came out looking like a midcarder, and midcarders wrestle great matches but they can't beat the Big Guys.


Absolutely.

I am sick to death of people saying "Oh, Triple H made Booker T look like a million bucks!"

Bullshit. Fucking bullshit. Booker T made Triple H look like a million bucks. He sold like a king for Triple H, and Triple H kicked out of his finisher.

It was a story that was tailor-made for a Wrestlemania win. The plucky underdog who rises above past indiscretions to become a star vs. the heel champion who looks down on him and refuses to take him seriously. The underdog running on pure will to win and determination to prove the evil champ wrong, fights through the pain and the cheating manager to fulfill his dreams and claim the championship.

Sounds like a Wrestlemania "dreams-come-true" story to me. Instead, the champ wins. Again. And it looks suspiciously like all of the nasty shit Triple H said about Booker T was justified, after all. I guess "Booker's people" really don't deserve to have their dreams come true.

Fuck Triple H.



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#51 Posted on

    Originally posted by SKLOKAZOID


If he ever wins that worthless belt, it will have taken him multiple title shots and the establishment that HHH is indeed superior, to finally win it. Booker T did not come out of the match at WrestleMania looking good. HHH kicked out of the Harlem Hangover, took his sweet time to cover Booker T and still got the win. Booker came out looking like a midcarder, and midcarders wrestle great matches but they can't beat the Big Guys.

HHH's match with Booker T only furthered the perception that RAW does not have a title, it merely has a prop for HHH to stroke his ego with. Seriously, since the introduction of this belt, it has seemed more like the Million Dollar Belt than any sort of World Title.

It amazes me that people still look for "proof" that HHH is ruining everything in his path. All you have to do is look at the path of wreckage behind him that's been going ever since he retired Mick Foley.



1)Most people who win the world title take multiple times to do so(Angle, HHH, Y2J, Mick Foley, etc. etc.).
2)If you see it as a worthless belt why do you want Booker-T to win it? You should argue for Booker T to go over to Smackdown and fight for that belt.
3)It took HHH a long time to cover Book? Why do RVD and Frogsplash come to mind?
4)Mid carders can't beat the big guys? Remember Hurricane over Rock,Jeff Hardy over HHH? It's a David vs. Goliath psychology they are going for, the big bad guy vs. the good underrated little guy. Plus, Booker has too much size and talent to stay at mid-card level(unless he retires due to the unforeseen).
5)"Proof" you sir are buying into "Word Backstage Is" and "Unnamed Source Says", what proof are you talking about?
Do you have a link with a clip of a shoot video, where a "Named" wrestler with an upstanding reputation talks about HHH ruining everything.
6)Name all the Uppercard guys when Foley retired? They had Kane and The Rock,Undertaker and Austin were both out. They needed to build up Benoit and Y2J at that time, but they had no one to fued for the IC belt at that time if they had shot them to main event level. One sentence you believe backstage rumors and the next you believe the storyline(You know HHH doing away with Foley).




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#52 Posted on
    Originally posted by Chico Santana
    One sentence you believe backstage rumors and the next you believe the storyline(You know HHH doing away with Foley).



In my post, I made no mention of anything backstage-related to the fact that HHH beating and utterly destroying everyone he is put against is ruining wrestling... or, at least ruining RAW. In fact, I made sure to avoid referencing specifics that can't be proven, because there's no definitive evidence. That does not mean that HHH isn't ruining wrestling.

Whether it be by his mere existence, whether he's doing everything right and the fans are rejecting it, whether only Stephanie wants to push him hard, or whether he really is using his position as Vince's future son-in-law for leverage, what's being done with HHH is hurting World Wrestling Entertainment, the company. It is a fact that all of his opponents come out looking worse, and that recently, they have had to go outside of the RAW roster to find opponents for HHH (Steiner and HBK come to mind, and Steiner worked so well that they used him twice). In fact, they have even brought back Rock and Austin to make up for the damage that HHH caused to RAW last fall.

The fans aren't buying it and they keep pushing it down our throats. That is another fact.

WWE has many problems, most of them I believe to be related to Stephanie's ascention and the rise of the WWE Creative Writing Staff after Vince Russo left. In 2000, the WWF was experiencing the highest ratings it ever had, but when the Creative staff has settled into power the ratings shot downward. I don't think that's a coincidence. Especially since the quality of shows (which is subjective) is considerably down.

One of the primary characteristics of this WWE Writing Staff, headed by the fiancee of HHH, is that HHH is a top star who is always after the belt or has the belt. There is a blatant conflict of interests that DOES exist: Is WWE Creative making HHH look like God because their boss is in love with him or because the numbers indicate that HHH is actually a draw?

I don't claim to have the answer to that, but that conflict of interests exists and I can speculate as to the answer. There are strong indications that WWE is pushing HHH against the will of the fans.


1)Most people who win the world title take multiple times to do so(Angle, HHH, Y2J, Mick Foley, etc. etc.)


Angle, Y2J, HHH, even Foley were all heels when they had their earlier title shots. The rules are different for heels than they are for underdog faces recieving the chance of a lifetime. The reason for that is simple: the fans want to see the faces - or the underdogs - go over more often than not. It's basic crowd psychology. It's traditionally been the heel's job in wrestling, going back to Ric Flair and even earlier than him, to get the face over. If a heel loses, he doesn't really lose any heat because the faces are the ones that draw the money in wrestling. Flair knew this, and the reason why he lasted so long was because he knew how to make Sting, Luger, and Dusty look like a million dollars. HHH did not do this with Booker at WrestleMania.

Foley's character was one who was based on losing. He lost the vast majority of his matches and that was a part of his character. He won the title as a matter of circumstance to keep RAW's ratings afloat one week, and they ran with it until The Rock ultimately got the belt back in the end.

Foley was a supporting character, like Kane, but he never was at the level of Austin or Rock. He had a good run, though. He just wasn't the guy you'd put over in the title match at WM.

HHH was a heel and could afford to lose in any one of his matches (something WWE still doesn't get). He lost a few title shots, then eventually won. He was never the "underdog" and was never a face until he beat Jericho, but that was after several earlier title reigns to establish him at the top.

Also, Y2J is in the same "choker" club that Booker T is in. He will never be a main eventer in WWE. He has fallen to the Clique for the past two years in a row. Mick Foley was always an underdog and never had a big PPV main event WWF Title shot as a face, except in his last match at WM2K. And he choked. He closed out his career as a choker.

Angle, as talented as he is, hasn't shown any indication (ratings-wise) that he is anything more than a supporting character, like Foley. SMACKDOWN! has sagging ratings and his biggest match (Angle/Lesnar) may end up drawing a low WrestleMania buyrate. The jury is still out on him. He still the most talented guy in WWE and has managed to help Lesnar get over, but even Lesnar shows signs of being a weak draw.

My point in all of this is that these did not become stars as a result of winning the WWF Title. They won the WWF Title as a matter of circumstance, whether it just seemed like a good idea one week, or WWE wanted to put all of its efforts into getting them over.

The goal of Booker-H, however, was different. The aim should have been to create a star. They did not do that. Booker choked.

None of the following had their first shot at the WWF Title at WrestleMania. That sets up an entirely different context than a shot at SMACKDOWN!, RAW, some minor PPV, or even a big PPV like SummerSlam. WrestleMania IS a "make or break" event and, if you lose, you had better go out in a blaze of glory. Booker T did not do that. He looked like a chump.


2)If you see it as a worthless belt why do you want Booker-T to win it? You should argue for Booker T to go over to Smackdown and fight for that belt.


Because, while it is but a mere fashion accessory to HHH, there is still the potential for someone to take that big chunk of gold and turn it into something. Hell, that potential exists even today. However, that person is not HHH and he has had almost 9 months to prove that he can carry his weight. He hasn't. Apparently, that person isn't Booker T, either.


3)It took HHH a long time to cover Book? Why do RVD and Frogsplash come to mind?


You don't see me professing the realism of RVD hitting the Frogsplash, either. It does make his opponents look bad.


4)Mid carders can't beat the big guys? Remember Hurricane over Rock,Jeff Hardy over HHH? It's a David vs. Goliath psychology they are going for, the big bad guy vs. the good underrated little guy. Plus, Booker has too much size and talent to stay at mid-card level(unless he retires due to the unforeseen).


Size has nothing to do with it. It's all about perception and timing.

The Hurricane beat Rock on an obscure RAW after Austin interference. The Hurricane was, just as recently as last night, back down to establishing himself in the usual niche he has as a midcarder. When he's not paired with the Rock, he's nothing.

There is no "David vs Goliath" psychology for HHH vs Booker. If there is, how many villages does Goliath have to crush before David finally gets a shot in? Even if he does, who's going to care by the time he does it?


5)"Proof" you sir are buying into "Word Backstage Is" and "Unnamed Source Says", what proof are you talking about?
Do you have a link with a clip of a shoot video, where a "Named" wrestler with an upstanding reputation talks about HHH ruining everything.



I think I addressed this thoroughly enough above. The fact that HHH's fiancee heads up a writing staff that flatters HHH's image at every turn despite sagging ratings and strong indications that there are bigger draws on the roster (Rock and Austin's recent ratings boosts come to mind), he is still given the gold, which WWE wants us to believe makes him "the best."


6)Name all the Uppercard guys when Foley retired? They had Kane and The Rock,Undertaker and Austin were both out. They needed to build up Benoit and Y2J at that time, but they had no one to fued for the IC belt at that time if they had shot them to main event level.


Not to dodge your question, but we have gone from the charismatic and popular Mick Foley, Steve Austin, and Rock to the uncharismatic less popular Brock Lesnar, HHH, and now Goldberg as the top stars once Rock takes off and Angle is out. The latter three are not a good indication of the future of wrestling.

(edited by SKLOKAZOID on 1.4.03 1521)
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#53 Posted on
"Dear Idiot,

....nah, never mind.

Love,
CRZ"

>thinks to self< "Just like I thought, no balls, no brains, all talk."

Dear PATHETIC Idiot,

.......not gonna waste my time anymore.

Love,
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P.S.-Ban me you conservative twit. And fuck all your ass kissers. You'll make a smart comment, but I win, because I won't read your reply-- BIATCH!!!

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P.P.S.-Grut, you're absolutely right.

P.P.P.S.-CRZ, don't be mad, just continue being the king of your worl...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!




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#54 Posted on

    Originally posted by SKLOKAZOID
    HHH beating and utterly destroying everyone he is put against is ruining wrestling... or, at least ruining RAW.



In your opinion. There have been alot of positive posts about RAW lately, and to tell you the truth, I haven't disliked a RAW since December. HHH is a fine heel character, and he hasn't even been the major player on the show since No Way Out. Michaels, Jericho, Austin, Rock, Bischoff, McMahon, and now Goldberg have usurped his TV time and main events. Hell, RVD and Kane are in just as many segments as he is.

And, no, he isn't single handedly ruining anything. Champion or not, he's only one cog in the machine, and one that has adapted aptly to being put in piss poor storylines, injuries, the loss of his onscreen partners, and poor opponents. Could he put people over more? Yeah, sure. But, for the guy who has been built up as the "Franchise Player" of the WWE, you'd expect that he should do pretty well in his matches, eh?



    In fact, they have even brought back Rock and Austin to make up for the damage that HHH caused to RAW last fall.


Yeah, because Rock came RIGHT back to Raw, and Austin was NEVER going to come back. No, Rock went over to RAW to get his Mania match with Austin, and Austin came back to RAW because, that, at the time was the show that best suited him. Smackdown already was prepped for at least two Mania matches (in Brock/Angle and Vince/Hogan), and they wouldn't have had the time to promote Rock/Austin AND come up with any other matches (not that the Smackdown writers did a great job of putting together any other matches, anyway).



    The fans aren't buying it and they keep pushing it down our throats. That is another fact.


No, YOU aren't buying it. It's YOUR OPINION. That doesn't mean that some or even quite a bit of the fanbase isn't. And before you pull the ratings card, remember that Smackdown, the show that HHH isn't even on hasn't drawn a hell of a lot better than RAW.



    WWE has many problems, most of them I believe to be related to Stephanie's ascention and the rise of the WWE Creative Writing Staff after Vince Russo left.


Maybe. That's entirely possible. Vince Russo was no genius, but he did some good things while he was there.

Is there a conflict of interest with Steph and HHH? Oh, I don't know. Sure. Is it necessarily a damning thing? No. Has it been? Not in my opinion, no.



    Because, while it is but a mere fashion accessory to HHH, there is still the potential for someone to take that big chunk of gold and turn it into something.


Because that's EXACTLY how HHH the character treats it...oh, wait...no it isn't. On the RAW before WrestleMania, the guy was practically making out with the thing, scared that he was going to lose it. He's consistantly cheated, gotten himself DQed, ducked challenges, all to keep the belt. THAT makes it mean something.

And it's been MONTHS, shut up about it being a useless title. He's defended it a fuckload of times and lost it. If there was any lack of luster after it was handed over to Hunter, that has long since gone away to everybody but the people looking for something to bitch about and J.R.



    The latter three are not a good indication of the future of wrestling.


I don't know, with the exception of Goldberg, it looks ok to me.

Davros-

You're either easily worked up, or easily amused. Either way, it's not worth your time.



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#55 Posted on
Congratulations...one of the most hardened Triple H bashers has finally become tired of it...thanks for sucking all the fun out of it guys.

I think the seperation of half-and-half weiners is pretty easily explained...half are newbies to the board and thus feel the need to exert their anger about Hunter. The other half have been here a while, have heard every argument and theory and are thus sick and tired of it.

It's not so much "you people are stupid for thinking this way", it's "we've heard this argument 1000 times over from 100 different posters, STOP IT!"





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#56 Posted on

    Originally posted by SKLOKAZOID
    In my post, I made no mention of anything backstage-related to the fact that HHH beating and utterly destroying everyone he is put against is ruining wrestling....

    In fact, I made sure to avoid referencing specifics that can't be proven, because there's no definitive evidence.Whether it be by his mere existence, whether he's doing everything right and the fans are rejecting it, whether only Stephanie wants to push him hard, or whether he really is using his position as Vince's future son-in-law for leverage, what's being done with HHH is hurting World Wrestling Entertainment, the company.

    The fans aren't buying it and they keep pushing it down our throats. That is another fact.WWE has many problems, most of them I believe to be related to Stephanie's ascention and the rise of the WWE Creative Writing Staff after Vince Russo left.One of the primary characteristics of this WWE Writing Staff, headed by the fiancee of HHH, is that HHH is a top star who is always after the belt or has the belt. There is a blatant conflict of interests that DOES exist: Is WWE Creative making HHH look like God because their boss is in love with him or because the numbers indicate that HHH is actually a draw? I don't claim to have the answer to that, but that conflict of interests exists and I can speculate as to the answer. There are strong indications that WWE is pushing HHH against the will of the fans.

    Angle, Y2J, HHH, even Foley were all heels when they had their earlier title shots.

    Also, Y2J is in the same "choker" club that Booker T is in. He will never be a main eventer in WWE. He has fallen to the Clique for the past two years in a row. Mick Foley was always an underdog and never had a big PPV main event WWF Title shot as a face, except in his last match at WM2K. And he choked.

    My point in all of this is that these did not become stars as a result of winning the WWF Title. They won the WWF Title as a matter of circumstance, whether it just seemed like a good idea one week, or WWE wanted to put all of its efforts into getting them over.

    The goal of Booker-T, however, was different. The aim should have been to create a star. They did not do that. Booker choked.



1)You were foreshadowing, in your other post of how HHH is holding Booker down(that has alot to do with backstage rumors and politics). Then you ask others why they need "Proof" to disbelieve what you state as fact when you have no "Proof" to back up your statement.It's your Opinion so state it as such.How is Hunter utterly destroying everyone? I don't remember any of the uppercard challengers being squashed by him.

2)Fans rejecting HHH? He gets Pops for his intro and heat during his matches. It's your Opinion, don't paint with a wide brush and say "The Fans" and then state it as fact.

3)You talk of how you "avoid referencing specifics that can't be proven because there's no definitive evidence". With no evidence, you only have your opinion and can only speculate. I agree that some of what you speculate on maybe true, but since I don't know for sure why should I let things like that cloud my perspective of the entertainment that I enjoy so very much.

4)Furthermore why knock on Hunter when you believe Steph is the one to blame? HHH is smart because he is taking what their giving him, if I walked in his boots I would do the same thing.

5)I rember Y2J being a Face going against HHH(Heel) in his first title shot. He won but the match was overruled. HHH(Face) vs. The Rock(Heel Champ) in an I quit match in one of HHH's first shots.

6)Y2J has mainevented King Of The Ring and WM18. The Clique talk is the backstage related stuff you claimed not to talk about. And I'm sure when Y2J jobbed to Cena at Vengeance it was because of HHH an Kevin Nash.

7)your wrong, Mick Foley headlined Summerslam vs. Austin vs. HHH w/ Jesse Ventura as ref.

8)IMO, Booker T is a star and doesn't need a belt to prove it. The writers choked not Booker, and that is because Vince is bringing in Golberg.



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#57 Posted on
This is the saddest, biggest trainwreck of a Triple H thread I've see yet on this board. I'm proud to now be part of it. It just never ends.



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#58 Posted on

    Originally posted by Jakegnosis

      Originally posted by SKLOKAZOID
      Booker T did not come out of the match at WrestleMania looking good. HHH kicked out of the Harlem Hangover, took his sweet time to cover Booker T and still got the win. Booker came out looking like a midcarder, and midcarders wrestle great matches but they can't beat the Big Guys.


    Absolutely.

    I am sick to death of people saying "Oh, Triple H made Booker T look like a million bucks!"

    Bullshit. Fucking bullshit. Booker T made Triple H look like a million bucks. He sold like a king for Triple H, and Triple H kicked out of his finisher.



Oh, for god's sake. Let's try this one more time.

Triple H kicked out of Booker's finisher because, going by the story of the match, Booker was weakened enough to where it didn't have the same amount of impact, not to mention the fact that he couldn't cover him properly.

HHH had help from Flair to set up the Pedigree, which took AN INJURED BOOKER T out long enough to give him the pin.

Booker looked like a million bucks because according to the story the match told he would have won, flat-out, if it hadn't been for a fucked-up knee and Ric Flair. It's a CLASSIC storyline device used to make the face continue to look strong in spite of a loss. It's not rocket science.

Should it have happened at Wrestlemania? Probably not. If the plan is/was to put the belt on Booker, they should've had this match last month instead of The Second Steiner Trainwreck, and then had the rematch here. That's poor writing. What it ISN'T is HHH trying to hold anyone down.

Now that Goldberg's in the picture, well, HHH having the belt keeps him looking strong for his eventual match with him after Goldie finishes his program with the Rock. Booker T gets to chase the belt one more month, gets to have the extra fire that he showed Monday night as the screwed-over-shoulda-won guy, and still stands a fair chance of getting his win at Backlash. HHH and Goldberg get to fight each other, thereby giving us all ample time for bathroom and snack breaks, and Booker T gets to move on to a feud with someone else, perhaps even with the belt in hand.



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    Originally posted by Nate The Snake
    Oh, for god's sake. Let's try this one more time.

    Triple H kicked out of Booker's finisher because, going by the story of the match, Booker was weakened enough to where it didn't have the same amount of impact, not to mention the fact that he couldn't cover him properly.

    HHH had help from Flair to set up the Pedigree, which took AN INJURED BOOKER T out long enough to give him the pin.

    Booker looked like a million bucks because according to the story the match told he would have won, flat-out, if it hadn't been for a fucked-up knee and Ric Flair. It's a CLASSIC storyline device used to make the face continue to look strong in spite of a loss. It's not rocket science.



Do you think you could be any more condescending if you tried?

I just watched the match again, and if you want to say that Booker looked like a million bucks, that's your prerogative, but I still think it's total bullshit.

Was Booker squashed? No. Did he look like he would have won the match if not for Flair? Fuck, no. He got a lot of offense in, but Triple H was clearly dominating him. The pedigree did take Booker out, but Triple H took his sweet goddamn time with the cover, like he didn't have anything to worry about.

Your argument about the injured knee is a fallacy in and of itself, because his knee was fine going into the match, and Triple H fucked it up. Booker didn't do that kind of damage to Triple H. Thus Triple H looked stronger.

So Triple H kicked out of the Harlem Hangover because Booker was weakened, and he couldn't cover him properly? By that same logic, shouldn't Booker have been able to kick out of the Pedigree, especially with all the time Triple H took to cover him?

I have no idea what goes on backstage. Maybe Triple H really does want to make new stars, but the creative team won't let him. That doesn't sound likely, but it's possible.

Triple H has been pushed to the point where he doesn't need the belt to look strong. He could have a program with Goldberg without the belt. Guys like Booker, Kane and RVD do need the belt to help them out. They could feud amongst themselves for the title, while Triple H goes into a high-profile angle with Goldberg. If there are two wrestlers in this world that are still credible without a title, it's Triple H and friggin' Goldberg. Nobody is going to think Triple H looks like a jobber because he lost the big gold belt. He's still a bona fide main-eventer without it, but it's exactly what the upper-midcarders need to be taken seriously. Nobody thinks Rock, Austin or Hogan are pussies just because they don't have a title. If the assumed Triple H/Goldberg feud involves the belt, they should really bring back the IC title so there is something to go for. Otherwise it's just "midcard hell," and the RAW upper card is just "the Triple H show."

I don't think Triple H needs to job himself out every week. he just needs to job out the belt, and then he can go back to being indestructable elsewhere on the roster and let someone else shine with the gold.



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From Chico Santana: "Fans rejecting HHH? He gets Pops for his intro and heat during his matches."
He gets heat?! When the hell has this happened? Every PPV he works at the crowd does one of two things. Either they go cricket chirping silent, or they boo the whole damn match out of the building. The last time he had a legitimately heated match was Summerslam vs. HBK. Since then the crowd pops on his entrance, pops briefly for the poor bastard face's hope(less) spot, and then boos half-heartedly as he leaves with another victory. WWE has created a character in HHH who no one really seems in the crowd to care too much about the outcome of. They don't cheer his triumphs, yet they really don't boo his transgressions. They just sit there, becoming aroused only if the match becomes a flaming turd of an event. Otherwise...nothing.



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