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Ok, I have a fever of 100+ as I write this, so bear with me, this may just be a fever dream (sad, no?)

I think the best way to use Brock and Angle would run like this: First, you make a believeable face turn for Angle.I don't know how, but he should be a good guy. Give Brock a few more seek-and-destroy missions, until he looks like a legit threat to Angle. No interviews from him, he just randomly crushes people, mainly faces. In all of Angle's matches, Lesnar and Heyman come out to ringside and just watch him, playing mind games.

Heyman and Brock go to McMahon and demand a match with Angle. McMahon refuses and tries to blow them off. Brock intimidates Vince into granting it, but Angle says he's too busy. In Brock's next "match", he just completely destroys his opponent, then Heyman cuts a promo saying that Brock's main inspiration in life has been to beat Kurt Angle. He went into wrestling to do it, he entered the WWF to get to Angle. Angle, as a gold medalist, was always held up to him as the ideal, the best in the business.

Angle come out and tries to calm them down, but he and Lesnar get into a match. It should look like Kurt beats him by being a better wrestler, but only barely. Brock no-
ells the anklelock, and the feud is off. I see it culminating as a no-holds-barred match, maybe a cage match, and Lesnar breaks Angle. Then you get the comeback and the PPV match.

And yes, I realize that Lesnar and Angle are on seperate shows, but with a bit of tweaking it would work. What do you folks think?



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#2 Posted on
Yes, my friend it is the fever you are having and not a very good idea. Take some Nyquil and head to bed.

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Hah! I puke upon your opinion. Ok, actually the puking part was coincidence. Mmm..Nyquil..Zzzzz



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I propose they give Brock Steinerberg (tm) the heart punch as a finisher.

Have him moo like a cow on his way to the ring.

Give him a 120 second long entrance.

Team up with Brakus and Big Jakes, and see if Emory Hale is taking bookings.

Or give him a hot winning streak, then job to Tazz on PPV over NOTHING.

Just sayin', is all...



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#5 Posted on
He should pimp hoz, say just bring it, and marry Steph McMahon...yup



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#6 Posted on
busting out the heart punch again would be pretty fucking cool.

ps: i try to give people's fantasy booking a try, but when they start with "first you turn so-and-so" i skip it. one of them rules, you know.



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#7 Posted on


Explain these rules to me, I'd like to hear them so I don't make similar mistakes in the future (seriously, I would.)



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#8 Posted on

    Originally posted by Travis
    I propose they give Brock Steinerberg (tm) the heart punch as a finisher.


It would be Ox Baker all over again, except with hair.
I say bring that finisher back.



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um, hmmm. the rules.

don't say "first, turn so and so" without any reason or plan.

don't say "give them a twenty minute raw match".

don't say "put him over austin, rock, undertaker and triple h".

beyond that, uh, don't be a smarky little fuck. =)



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#10 Posted on


Was I being smarky? I apoligize if I was. I dislike those type of people as much as anyone.

(edited by Punkinhed on 2.4.02 1812)
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#11 Posted on

    Originally posted by UAsnake2002
    It would be Ox Baker all over again, except with hair.I say bring that finisher back.


Ox Baker , hell yeah !
Now there's a blast from the past . How many people remember him ?
I always thought he made the heart punch look like a really devastating move !
I too wish they would bring that move back .



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aw no, you weren't being smarky at all man.



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#13 Posted on

Does anyone remember when our own UT was Mean Mark Callous (managed by Paul E.) (post-Skyscrapers) and his finisher was the same dreaded heart punch?

PS: Maybe one of the fantasy booking rules should be "No fantasy booking until someone, somewhere has seen the guy have an actual MATCH." That might help put things in perspective.
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    Originally posted by shea

    Does anyone remember when our own UT was Mean Mark Callous (managed by Paul E.) (post-Skyscrapers) and his finisher was the same dreaded heart punch?

    PS: Maybe one of the fantasy booking rules should be "No fantasy booking until someone, somewhere has seen the guy have an actual MATCH." That might help put things in perspective.


that was the obscure thing I was referencing
I believe at one point Luger no-sold it....



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#15 Posted on

    Originally posted by Travis
    I believe at one point Luger no-sold it....



hahahahaha!

luger's got no heart!



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#16 Posted on
    Originally posted by Notorious F.A.B.
    um, hmmm. the rules.

    don't say "first, turn so and so" without any reason or plan.

    don't say "give them a twenty minute raw match".

    don't say "put him over austin, rock, undertaker and triple h".

    beyond that, uh, don't be a smarky little fuck. =)



Okay, given this, what to do with Brock would be:
1) Book him in a series of matches against smaller guys, all squash matches (Goldberg style)
2) Have him get the attention of, say, a Benoit or someone else who can carry him to a longer match; match is booked for PPV
3) Said wrestler carries Brock for as long as possible on PPV and wears him down, eventually getting a submission victory (Benoit would be perfect for this role if he's as fit as he was before he left; after all the crippler crossface is his finisher)
4) Said wrestler then starts cutting promos calling Lesnar "Just another sports entertainer" and claiming "He can wrestle for 5 minutes but after that he just falls flat. That's the difference between a sports entertainer... and a wrestler!" (Actually, you could build up a whole character around that gimmick of being a "true wrestler, not a sports entertainer"; but that's another story)
5) Lesner hires someone like Shaun Michaels or another wrestler who's had an iron-man match. Perhaps Mick Foley as a coach on "sustained punishment" or Dean Malenko as a "Submission coach". You could even start another storyline by having him hire Flair as a coach here, which could add some other flow on storylines.
6) The revenge match at a later PPV. Now Lesnar is not just percieved as a power athlete but a legitimate tough guy who can take a sustained beating!
7) You could then, with 4 shows a week to fill, draw out the feud to a 3rd PPV after said wrestler says that "It was just a fluke, he is the better endurance wrestler"... etc. so it becomes an ongoing moneymaking program.

(edited by AJ_Levy on 4.4.02 0559)
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#17 Posted on

There's that, or we could just shoot him out of a cannon.
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    Originally posted by shea

    There's that, or we could just shoot him out of a cannon.


Best idea yet! Stuff Heyman in there while you're at it...



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I like that idea..a pity the APA are split up, he could hire them to attack him at random times to toughen him up, like in the Pink Panther :)



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If Lesnar were to face Goldberg (circa summer 1998), I have to think (as much as I loathe the idea) that that would draw big money. The similarities are there. But I wouldn't start booking Lesnar to win the WWF Title just yet.

Keep in mind, the only thing Lesnar's done so far on WWF television is destroy people after they've already had a match (or while they're in the middle of one). Most WWF fans have yet to see him actually wrestle a complete match. And to be entirely candid (which I'm incapable of not being), I saw Lesnar wrestle a dark match before the most recent RAW in Indianapolis. And, well, he kinda sucked.

"That was then, this is now." I suppose. But I remember that, while I was impressed with Lesnar's size the first time I saw him, I was far from impressed with his actual ring work. The match wasn't bad so much as it was just... well... boring.

There are a couple of things that I would not like to see Lesnar do.

Win a triple-handicap match against three members of the cruiserweight division.

Scott Steiner did this once. Didn't help him, but it sure as hell made all three men he defeated look like wussies. I'm not a fan of the handicap match in the first place. In a three-on-one, if the three win, so what? They're supposed to, they've got a 3-on-1 advantage. If the one wins, it makes the three look bad. It's a Kobayashi Maru situation for the team.

Start destroying everyone in his path, racking up a Goldberg-esque winning streak.

Simple wrestling psychology. In order for most matches to be effective, the fans have to believe that either man can beat the other. In the case of Goldberg vs. Jerry Lynn (all 20 times they wrestled each other), there was never any doubt about who would win such a match. If Lesnar starts building up an enormous winning streak by destroying people lower on the rung, it'd really mess things up. It would make it very difficult to push the people he's been destroying. And after awhile, if say D'Lo Brown came out to face Lesnar, everyone and their mother would know beyond a doubt who will win the match. So if everyone knows the outcome in advance, what's the point of having the match in the first place? That's one reason why I was so thrilled when Chris Jericho became the first Undisputed Champion at Vengeance: because everyone was betting on either Austin or The Rock.

The jury's stil out on Lesnar as far as I'm concerned. He looks impressive now, yes, but he still hasn't wrestled a single televised match yet. As a WCW fan, I can say that it looks like the WWF is trying to make Lesnar into the second coming of Goldberg. And while that can be a positive, it can also help to worsen the morale of people who've worked longer and harder for their spot.

(edited by ekedolphin on 4.4.02 1559)


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