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Since: 4.5.03
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Next up- my hometown team...

BTW, finally broke down and bought Neyer's book. Outstanding read. I'm trying not to let it influence my choices. But I highly recommend it.

C- Jim Hegan. Catcher's not one the Indian's best positions. Even the guys that take over the position for ten years or so don't hit.

1B- Jim Thome. Hal Trotsky ahd a couple more years, but Thome was much more dominant.

2B- Nap LaJoie. The Indians have a TON of great players at 2B and CF. Besides LaJoie, there's Avila, Gordon, Alomar, Baerga, and my favorite Duane Kuiper.

SS- Lou Bordreau. Another good position, and Luke Sewell and Omar Vizquel could also fill out the spot.

3B- Ken Keltner. Bill James wrote an article explaining why Keltner should NOT go to the Hall of Fame. It makes sense, but Keltner was a good player and a great defender. (He's the guy that stopped DiMaggio's 56 game streak, IIRC)

LF- Earl Averill. The hell with it. It's my team, and if I want three Center Fielders, I'll put them in. They are better than the LF and RF from the team.

CF- Tris Speaker. The best defender of the three, as well as the best hitter.

RF- Larry Doby. The AL's first black player was also a great CF.

DH- Albert Belle. Could put Manny Rameriz here instead, but Belle was the dominant hitter in the AL for about five years. And him not winning the MVP in 1995 was a crime.

SP- Bob Feller. The most dominant pitcher of his time.

SP- Bob Lemon. And, on a side issue, an underrated manager.

SP- Stan Coveleski. Pitched very well for the Indians in the early 20's. Not a strikeout pitcher, but won 19-22 games every year.

SP- Mel Harder. 223 wins is hard to argue with.

RP- Doug Jones. Was the closer for only about three years- but probably the best 60 mph pticher in the history of baseball. You could argue Mesa, but I'm still bitter about 1997.

Mgr- Mike Hargrove. Underrated, and currently about to lose his job in Baltimore (which was a no-win situation in the first place, but...). But he put together this team.



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Since: 11.7.02
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    Originally posted by MightyBastard
    Mgr- Mike Hargrove. Underrated, and currently about to lose his job in Baltimore

That would be news to us folks in Baltimore, mainly because he has an overachieving team above .500 in the last year of his contract, plus Jim Beattie and Mike Flanagan have the utmost confidence in him.



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    Originally posted by Grimis

      Originally posted by MightyBastard
      Mgr- Mike Hargrove. Underrated, and currently about to lose his job in Baltimore

    That would be news to us folks in Baltimore, mainly because he has an overachieving team above .500 in the last year of his contract, plus Jim Beattie and Mike Flanagan have the utmost confidence in him.



Point. I should have said 'reportedly'. I read this from the Sproting news website:



    The Orioles' new front-office regime has said all along that the only reason it had not addressed manager Mike Hargrove's lame-duck status was because the organization had too many other pressing problems to address first -- a valid point. But with the critically wounded farm system now stabilized, with 2002 first-round pick LHP Adam Loewen now signed and with the 2003 draft now behind them, there is no excuse for leaving Hargrove dangling.

    Hargrove has lobbied publicly for a chance to "see this thing through" -- and it is hard to fault him for the team's struggles when he is fielding a lineup that lacks a true No. 2, No. 3 or No. 4 hitter. But continued silence on the matter from co-GMs Jim Beattie and Mike Flanagan will leave the impression they don't view Hargrove as the right man to lead the Orioles back to respectability. ...



Sorry- shouldn't have said that he was. Blame it on the lack of morning caffiene.







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Since: 11.12.01
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An all-time Indians team without Rocco Colavito is a sham.

Doug Jones couldn't sniff the jocks of Don Mossi and Ray Narleski.




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What about Louis Sockalexis? Hell, they named the team after him.



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