Ken Caminiti - 1996 NL MVP Gary Sheffield - 1992 NL Batting Champ (.330) Fred McGriff - 1992 NL HR leader (35) Randy Jones - 1976 Cy Young, 1975 ERA Champ (2.24), Good BBQ Mark Davis - 1989 Cy Young Gaylord Perry - 1978 Cy Young Andy Benes - 1994 Strikeout leader (189) Joe Carter Greg Vaughn Steve Garvey Sandy Alomar Benito Santiago Wally Joyner
I'm sure I'm forgetting people
Alan Wiggins! Kevin McReynolds Randy Myers Rickey Henderson
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I remember bringing that point up, but I don't ever remember there being a conclusion or consensus.
not that it matters, but i thought it would make more sense if the player is chosen only for the time they spent with that particular team. for example, i wouldn't put ryne sandberg on an all-time phillies list. i'm sure there are countless other examples, too.
Who was manager on the 84 team?
how about some consideration for trevor hoffman as closer?
Marge: Mr. Scorpio, this house is almost too good for us. I keep expecting to get the bums rush. Scorpio: We don't have bums in our town, Marge, and if we did, they wouldn't rush, they'd be allowed to go at their own pace.
Hoffman is the obvious choice for closer. I had him down on the first draft of that post but I changed the format because I couldn't really argue some of my choices (Benito Santiago for catcher on the merits of his ROTY season for example).
Hoffman is one of the best closers ever, and an obvious HOF choice.
Originally posted by Guru ZimYou forgot manager - which has to be Bruce Bochy.-not Preston Gomez?
People that should be considered:
Ken Caminiti - 1996 NL MVP-close but Nevin's last year was immense Gary Sheffield - 1992 NL Batting Champ (.330)-nah Fred McGriff - 1992 NL HR leader (35)-too many first basemen Randy Jones - 1976 Cy Young, 1975 ERA Champ (2.24), Good BBQ- I picked him! Mark Davis - 1989 Cy Young-bah Gaylord Perry - 1978 Cy Young-Jones better, longer for SD Andy Benes - 1994 Strikeout leader (189)-bah Joe Carter-like him but too short a career Greg Vaughn-no Steve Garvey-compared to Klesko-no Sandy Alomar-hardly played Benito Santiago-maybe Wally Joyner-yuk
I'm sure I'm forgetting people
Alan Wiggins!-not as good as Alomar Kevin McReynolds-close but Richards was underrated Randy Myers-ok Rickey Henderson-nah
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I'm only including time spent on the Padres. Elsewise Willie McCovey would be the first baseman hands down!
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Wiggins had drug problems, but the guy made more of an impact in his 3 years here in San Diego than Alomar did in his 3 years here. Check his 1984 Season stats (70 SB, 106 runs) to see how he was a big part of that World Series team.
They are about even in BA and OBP - but the SB and Runs put Wiggins ahead.
Also, who are the automatics? Off the top of my head, I'd say: Tony, Winfield and Hoffman.
Here are other names to throw out:
Gaylord Perry, Eric Show (Mr. John Birch / 4192), Terry Kennedy, Steve Finley
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I found a webpage with an alltime Padres team and their second basemen was Bip Roberts!! Woohoo! I've always been a Bip Roberts fan ever since that Beckett magazine commercial where Gwynn is talking and Bip is looking at the magazine and Bip exclaims "My card is worth.." then he says some high price. Then Gwynn says, "no, that's Robin Roberts, your card is five cents"
Originally posted by TheBucsFanWhat exactly do those numbers mean?
To oversimply, Bill James came up with a system (which can be found in his book called WIN SHARES, as well as James' new Historical Abstract) where each team's win is worth three points and then they are awarded to three players.
In 2001, the Pads had 79 wins, so they had 237 Win Shares to distribute. Nevin had 31, Klesko 29, Trammell 17 and so on down to 11 players with one.
I'm sure you could google around the net to find more precise explanations. I know James did a chat on ESPN.com and Rob Neyer is a James disciple.
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Greinke also had four more complete games (six to two). I agree with you, anyone other than Greinke winning this award would be unfortunate. And Cardinals players winning the MVP and Cy Young awards, as appears likely to me, sure will be bittersweet....