Hey! Not so fast, pieman! I bought Neyer's book primarily because of your recommendation (well, yours and Bill James). So be sure to check your mailbox, because that commission check from Amazon.com should be arriving any day now.
Damn, the Cubs have had so much talent on their teams. Sad really. I grew up with Cubs baseball when Eckersley, Sutcliffe, Moyer, and Maddux were pitching (Moyer was my hero, talked to me for a while when he signed a baseball of mine). They also had Grace, Sandberg and Shawn Dunston. Just a lot of good players none of whom played well at the same time.
Originally posted by Eddie FamousMark Grace as the All-Time Cubs first baseman?
Sorry folks, but that's just stupid.
Yeah, becuase he ONLY had more hits than anyone in baseball for about a decade AND was probably the best defensive first baseman at the time too.
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Also: Bill Buckner actually WON a batting title and managed to drive in 100 runs. Could Grace EVER say that? No. Could he hit useless singles in already won/olst games? Sure. That was his talent.
Some pure idiots have tried to call Mark Grace better than Rafael Palmeiro because Grace had the useless stat of most hits in a ten-year gap. COMPARE THE STATS THAT COUNT. Runs, rbi...Palmeiro is a million times the player Grace ever was..
As a matter of fact, even LEON DURHAM was more productive over a couple years time as Cubs 1b than Grace ever was.
Defensive first baseman are damn near useless when you are talking a difference in a .996 FA and a .993 FA....
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I was talking about the "if someone had spoken up earlier argument", with the point being that if someone had asked enough questions and kept after it, they would have come up then with what we know is true now.