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AL Starters

C Ivan Rodriguez, DET
1B Jason Giambi, NYY
2B Alfonso Soriano, TEX
3B Alex Rodriguez, NYY
SS Derek Jeter, NYY
OF Manny Ramirez, BOS
OF Vladimir Guerrero, ANA
OF Ichiro Suzuki, SEA

AL Pitchers

SP Tim Hudson, OAK
SP Ted Lilly, TOR
SP Esteban Loaiza, CWS
SP Mark Mulder, OAK
SP Kenny Rogers, TEX
SP C.C. Sabathia, CLE
SP Curt Schilling, BOS
RP Francisco Cordero,
RP Tom Gordon, NYY
RP Joe Nathan, MIN
RP Mariano Rivera, NYY
RP Francisco Rodriguez, ANA

AL Reserves

C Victor Martinez, CLE
1B Ken Harvey, KC
1B David Ortiz, BOS
2B Ron Belliard, CLE
3B Hank Blalock, TEX
SS Carlos Guillen, DET
SS Miguel Tejada, BAL
SS Michael Young, TEX
OF Carl Crawford, TB
OF Matt Lawton, CLE
OF Gary Sheffield, NYY

NL Starters

C Mike Piazza, NYM
1B Albert Pujols, STL
2B Jeff Kent, HOU
3B Scott Rolen, STL
SS Edgar Renteria, STL
OF Barry Bonds, SF
OF Ken Griffey, CIN
OF Sammy Sosa, CHC

NL Pitchers

SP Roger Clemens, HOU
SP Tom Glavine, NYM
SP Livan Hernandez, MON
SP Randy Johnson, ARI
SP Carl Pavano, FLA
SP Jason Schmidt, SF
SP Ben Sheets, MIL
SP Carlos Zambrano, CHC
RP Armando Benitez, FLA
RP Eric Gagne, LA R/R
RP Danny Graves, CIN
RP Danny Kolb, MIL

NL Reserves

C Johnny Estrada, ATL
1B Sean Casey, CIN
1B Todd Helton, COL
1B Jim Thome, PHI
2B Mark Loretta, SD
3B Mike Lowell, FLA
SS Barry Larkin, CIN
SS Jack Wilson, PIT
OF Moises Alou, CHC
OF Carlos Beltran, HOU#
OF Lance Berkman, HOU
OF Miguel Cabrera, FLA



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    SP Ted Lilly, TOR
    SP Esteban Loaiza, CWS
    RP Tom Gordon, NYY


Oh for the love of God. Can Joe Torre be banned from this? Nothing against Gordon but that should be Takatsu for the CWS selection. And I know they've been disappointing, but Pedro and Halladay being disappointing has been superior to Lilly and Loaiza.

The NL team is about as fine as it can be.

(edited by ScottChrist on 4.7.04 2004)


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Ted Lilly? Let the argument over the 'minimum one all star per team' rule begin.
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    Originally posted by ScottChrist

      SP Ted Lilly, TOR
      SP Esteban Loaiza, CWS
      RP Tom Gordon, NYY


    Oh for the love of God. Can Joe Torre be banned from this? Nothing against Gordon but that should be Takatsu for the CWS selection. And I know they've been disappointing, but Pedro and Halladay being disappointing has been superior to Lilly and Loaiza.

    The NL team is about as fine as it can be.

    (edited by ScottChrist on 4.7.04 2004)





I'm obviously biased here, but if it were a perfect world, Jack Wilson would be the starting shortstop for the NL. Hitting .340, 8 HR, about 35 RBI, and leading the NL in hits gets him a reserve spot? Please. This year, he has easily been the best SS in the NL.



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    Originally posted by HitTheSnoozeButton
    I'm obviously biased here, but if it were a perfect world, Jack Wilson would be the starting shortstop for the NL. Hitting .340, 8 HR, about 35 RBI, and leading the NL in hits gets him a reserve spot? Please. This year, he has easily been the best SS in the NL.


Well obviously but you can't rely on fans to vote properly. I was surprised Barry Larkin didn't win.



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Lyle Overbay got screwed.

5th in the NL with a .343 BA.
3rd in the NL with 61 RBI, no NL 1B has more.
1st in the NL with 35 doubles.

He isn't even on the 32nd man voting!
Unfortunately Casey went on the DL today, hopefully Lyle takes his spot.
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You wanted the best, you got... Out of Context Quote of the Week.

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What the crap is with Giambi getting to start? I know these weren't the Bizarro World All-Stars (hardballtimes.com)...

And who thinks that Beltran will get on the team somehow? I don't know about the results of the player voting, but it sounded like they happened pre-trade.



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The first name I think of as missing from the NL is Adam Dunn. JD Drew has had a good year too, especially lately.



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    Originally posted by Vgmastr
    Lyle Overbay got screwed.

    5th in the NL with a .343 BA.
    3rd in the NL with 61 RBI, no NL 1B has more.
    1st in the NL with 35 doubles.

    He isn't even on the 32nd man voting!
    Unfortunately Casey went on the DL today, hopefully Lyle takes his spot.


Have to agree, I know homeruns is the big deal nowadays but he is on pace to break the doubles record. 1B is a tough one though. Obviously Pujols and Thome should be, Casey too, and Helton is Colorado's only rep. Just think next year you'll have Piazza at that position too.

I agree it should be Takatsu instead of Loaiza, Thomas has had a good season too, but the AL 1B is pretty competitive also, and I guess Magglio has been injured too long to get on (or he'll still be injured when the game comes).

Other that I can't complain I think Jack Wilson and Hank Blalock are both having good enough years to start but I don't have a problem with fan voting.

Is Carl Pavano really having that good of a year? I don't think he's been on my radar all season.



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Lyle Overbay should be on, and I suspect that issue will be rectified. However, I'm left hoping the populace will see the injustice in Bobby Abreu's omission:

To date (through 7/4/04):
.304 BA, 66 R, 22 2B, 17 HR, 56 RBI, 69 BB, 17 SB, 1 CS, .444 OBP, .576 SLG, 1.021 OPS
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You wanted the best, you got... Out of Context Quote of the Week.

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    Originally posted by beefncheddar
    Lyle Overbay should be on, and I suspect that issue will be rectified. However, I'm left hoping the populace will see the injustice in Bobby Abreu's omission:

    To date (through 7/4/04):
    .304 BA, 66 R, 22 2B, 17 HR, 56 RBI, 69 BB, 17 SB, 1 CS, .444 OBP, .576 SLG, 1.021 OPS


I've already pumped them full of five votes for Abreu. He's been key to my fantasy performance alone.

How many times can you vote, anyways? I don't think the site said.



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    Originally posted by ScottChrist

      SP Ted Lilly, TOR
      SP Esteban Loaiza, CWS
      RP Tom Gordon, NYY


    Oh for the love of God. Can Joe Torre be banned from this? Nothing against Gordon but that should be Takatsu for the CWS selection. And I know they've been disappointing, but Pedro and Halladay being disappointing has been superior to Lilly and Loaiza.

    The NL team is about as fine as it can be.

    (edited by ScottChrist on 4.7.04 2004)


YES...Takatsu should've been the ChiSox rep, I think this may have been a make-up pick from last year if he (Loaiza) didn't make it last season. Konerko is also deserving.

    Originally posted by beefnchedder
    Lyle Overbay should be on, and I suspect that issue will be rectified. However, I'm left hoping the populace will see the injustice in Bobby Abreu's omission:

    To date (through 7/4/04):
    .304 BA, 66 R, 22 2B, 17 HR, 56 RBI, 69 BB, 17 SB, 1 CS, .444 OBP, .576 SLG, 1.021 OPS


Vgmastr...Overbay got screwed, no doubt, but (one of) thing(s)that hurt him was that Pujols was listed as a first basmen. To my knowledge, he has played less than five games at that position all season.

Snoozebutton... Be thankful he's on the team at all. While I agree he should have been the starter...Adamn Everett has made a strong case for most of the season as well.


Dr. Jay... I agree with you completely, but name recognition has a ton to do with it. Konerko may end up getting a spot due to Giambi's parasite.

I'm not thrilled with Larkin making it to the squad, but, this is probably his last season, and I don't hink I remember him hitting the DL so far, which is a huge step for him.

As per Lilly...I can't think of anyone off the top of my head that is more deserving than him off of the Blue Jays' rost right now. V. Wells and C. Delgado have been hurt. While Roy Halladay haven't exactly pitched up to his CY-season last year. (Although I may be a bit fuzzy on his stats on the season.)

And, since this post would be completely wasted without a bit of homerism, please, please, Please, PLEAST, PLZ, vote for Aramis Ramirez, 3B, of YOUR 2004 World Series Champion Chicago Cubs for the 32nd man on the NL roster. I don't care who you vote for for the AL 32nd man or whatever number it is. Just remember [B]ARAMIS RAMIREZ, 3RD BASE, CHICAGO CUBS.[/B]


Gee-$...Dunn is definately deserved of a spot, but, you can't exactly argue against anyone that got voted in ahead of him, although he could get in with Casey going on the DL.

Quezzy...Pavano has been having a very good year, albeit quietly. While I might have rather seen Clement get the nod over him, he had been dating Alissa Milano for the majority of the season, which may have swung things in his favor.

This post wouldn't be complete without a bit of blatant homerism. Please vote for Aramis Ramirez, of your soon-to-be 2004 World Series Champions (yes I have been to the future) as your National League 32nd man. He's been deserved of it in the past, and is certainly deserved of it this year. Once again, that is ARAMIS RAMIREZ, THIRD BASE, of the soon-to-be-2004-World Champions of the World - CHICAGO CUBS. Thanks in advance.


edit: I managed to screw something up along the way.


(edited by Whitebacon on 5.7.04 0138)



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Why is it I haven't seen Beltre's name mentioned much in any of this? His numbers compare extremely well with Lowell's but while a few people mention Lowell I've only seen one mentioning Beltre. I know he had a relatively quiet May and I came oh so close to dumping him when the bone spur stuff came out, but his stats don't lie.
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    Originally posted by Whitebacon
    YES...Takatsu should've been the ChiSox rep, I think this may have been a make-up pick from last year if he (Loaiza) didn't make it last season. Konerko is also deserving.


Loaiza STARTED last year, so this is just Torre being not smart.


    As per Lilly...I can't think of anyone off the top of my head that is more deserving than him off of the Blue Jays' rost right now. V. Wells and C. Delgado have been hurt. While Roy Halladay haven't exactly pitched up to his CY-season last year. (Although I may be a bit fuzzy on his stats on the season.)



Halladay Lilly
ERA 3.83 4.04
WHIP 1.29 1.39
K 82 83
BAA .258 .244
W-L 7-5 7-4
IP 108 93.2


Halladay has been a little disappointing, but overall his numbers are not dramatically different than his Cy Young-winning stats from last season: (3.25, 1.07, 204, .247, 22-7, 266)

Lilly has had a perfectly fine season, and I don't consider it a travesty of justice or anything silly, but Halladay is and has been better. I think we can chalk this one up to Joe liking Ted Lilly still, which is fine.

(edited by ScottChrist on 5.7.04 0842)


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What about Chris Carpenter? 8-3, ERA below 3.70 pretty much all season. You can credit him as much as any of their pitchers for the Cardinals being in first for much of the season. I'd take him over Sheets and Pavano, at the very least. But the Cards do have three offensive starters...
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Tell you what, Whitebacon, I'll gladly vote for Ramirez if Alou will just do the honorable thing and give up his spot to the clearly superior Bobby Abreu.
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Speaking of MIA Phillies, where is Eric Milton and his 11 wins?

And Giambi can`t start, he still has parasites, correct?

And in reference to Beltran being stuck in bizarro world, I believe he gets to show up and be recognized as an All-Star, but he can`t actually play? Which is even weirder considering he`ll be in Houston.



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As a Phillies fan, I think Abreu is much more deserving of going than Milton. While Milton has won 11 games, he's got an ERA of more than 4 and has been the beneficiary of some huge offensive games.

For some reason Abreu never seems to get any love and I'm at the point of wondering what he has to do to get noticed. He may well be the most underappreciated star in the game.

As for Giambi, I suspect he could probably go an inning or two and then call it a night. On Beltran, you're on the money -- I wouldn't be surprised to see him (or Overbay) added when/if Casey backs out.
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    Originally posted by Spiraling_Shape
    And Giambi can`t start, he still has parasites, correct?
I have been reading notes in all of the NY/NJ papers speculating that he will probably sit the ASG out in favor of more rest. Personally, I would like to see him sit, and George's baseball people oughtta whisper in his ear "Make a big deal through the media that you expect JG to sit the All-Star Game and do the right thing for the team" so George can tell all the papers and TV "I expect Giambi to sit the All-Star Game and do the right thing for the team."



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    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
    What about Chris Carpenter? 8-3, ERA below 3.70 pretty much all season. You can credit him as much as any of their pitchers for the Cardinals being in first for much of the season. I'd take him over Sheets and Pavano, at the very least. But the Cards do have three offensive starters...

Pavano is 9-3 with an ERA under 3. 6 of his wins have come following Marlins losses, which has been huge for them. Sorry, but I'd go Pavano over Carpenter.



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