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If it is going to happen any year this is the year!



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You're kidding, right? The Expos have lost their best hitter and best pitcher, not to mention that they're run by MLB itself, not an individual owner. The Blue Jays have no bullpen to speak of, no rotation other than Halladay, and they play in the AL East. Neither team will make the playoffs. A Cubs-Red Sox World Series is more likely.



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I believe the original poster meant in the sense of "there won't be 2 Canadian teams" in 2005.



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    Originally posted by HomerJFong
    I believe the original poster meant in the sense of "there won't be 2 Canadian teams" in 2005.


Absolutely, that's what he meant.

And about my Expos...Livan Hernandez is their best pitcher, not Vasquez.

Second of all, yeah, they lost Vlad but they added Batista and Evrett so the team should still do OK.

Sadly, it's my last year as an Expo fan, so my second favorite team will now be my favorite so... GO RED SOX IN 2006!

(edited by Dave Gagnon on 15.2.04 1541)

(edited by Dave Gagnon on 15.2.04 1541)

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Jurassic Carl should help the Expos and Johnson and Batista will help offensively. After the Angels 2 years ago and the Marlins last year never say never. For those who don't know Carl Everett got the nickname "Jurassic" not because of his age. He doesn't believe in dinosaurs.
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We've been hearing that the Expos will be moving every year since 1999. I'll believe it when I see it, given how disorganized MLB is.

And don't underestimate the Jays. My theory is that Boston will be so devastated by the A-Rod deal that the Jays will move ahead of them for the wild card.



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Seeing a Jays/Expos world series is any Canadian's wet dream, but an American marketers nightmare. The two World Series where TOronto won were (I believe) two of the lowest rated series' in history.

I hold out hope for the Jays, and I hold out hope for the Expos, but I'm not too sure it'll happen anytime soon.



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Here's one for conspiracy buffs...

If it ever looked like the Expos were a legitimate threat to contend for a championship, would MLB allow that to happen or pull a major talent dump and kill it? After all, Montreal is probably the market that least benefits baseball by having a competitive team...

Toronto? Ha! As long as their collective heads remain so far up Carlos Delgado's ass, they'll never win. You can't spend all your money on one guy and have that one guy be worthless in key spots. What are they paying him, anyway? $20 mil? They could replace his bat for less and buy a bullpen with the savings, but the baseball-ignorant Toronto fans and media would never allow that to happen. Fine with me, though, I hate the Jays.

And for the record, we'll see Tigers vs. Brewers in the WS before we see Jays vs. Expos.



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Well, that's not necessarily true; Delgado often gets the honourary position of team bitch and scapegoat when the Jays lose; he's been there the longest. Now, it's virtually impossible for mainstream media to avoid the Jays, seeing as they're owned by ROGERS freaking MEDIA...but I've mostly known that when the Jays win, they win, but when they lose...someone's in line to lose their head.

Such is the cutthroat business of professional sports in Toronto. The Argos, the Leafs, and the Raptors all suffer the same fate from the Toronto newpapers.



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.75
    Originally posted by BigVitoMark
    Here's one for conspiracy buffs...



    Toronto? Ha! As long as their collective heads remain so far up Carlos Delgado's ass, they'll never win. You can't spend all your money on one guy and have that one guy be worthless in key spots. What are they paying him, anyway? $20 mil? They could replace his bat for less and buy a bullpen with the savings, but the baseball-ignorant Toronto fans and media would never allow that to happen. Fine with me, though, I hate the Jays.




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Delgado was signed to that contract by Gord Ash while the team was still owned by Interbrew, if I recall correctly. It has little to do with JP or Rogers. His production last year was incredible, so why not keep him around for the duration of his contract? The Jays need marketability and outside of Halladay, Delgado is basically it. They managed to improve the pitching staff (on paper, anyways) and give the bullpen a facelift this off-season without having to trade Delgado. He is an FA after this year, so if the Jays are completely out of it by the deadline, he'll move.

Jays fans and the majority of the Toronto media are so enamoured with JP Ricciardi right now that if he did trade Delgado, he'd get the benefit of the doubt. Besides, JP does not seem to base his decisions on the opinions of fans or the media anyways, so I'm not quite certain what your point is. Perhaps if you were referring to the Maple Leafs this argument about abrasive fans would hold water. Unfortunately outside of thinking that it looks like JP is doing a pretty good job so far, nobody really cares enough about the Jays to have their head up anyone's ass.



(edited by scabby on 18.2.04 1508)




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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.96
Let's check out the Jays line-up this year:

ROTATION:
Roy Halladay
Miguel Batista
Ted Lilly
Pat Hentgen
Josh Towers
BULLPEN:
Justin Speier (Closer)
Kerry Ligtenberg
Terry Adams
They got a solid rotation anchored by two Cy Young winners and a youngster. The bullpen is better than last year...but that isn't hard to do.

PROBABLE STARTERS:
C: Greg Myers
1B: Carlos Delgado
2B: Orlando Hudson
SS: Chris Woodward
3B: Eric Hinske
LF: Frank Catalanotto
CF: Vernon Wells
RF: Reed Johnson
DH: Josh Phelps
Good young infield (but not as good as the Yankees), solid hitting from Delgado & Wells...and the rest are question marks.

Jays finish third this year, behind the Yankees & BoSox. Let's say...just under 100 wins.



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    Originally posted by scabby
    God, I hate Queens students.

    Delgado was signed to that contract by Gord Ash while the team was still owned by Interbrew, if I recall correctly. It has little to do with JP or Rogers. His production last year was incredible, so why not keep him around for the duration of his contract? The Jays need marketability and outside of Halladay, Delgado is basically it. They managed to improve the pitching staff (on paper, anyways) and give the bullpen a facelift this off-season without having to trade Delgado. He is an FA after this year, so if the Jays are completely out of it by the deadline, he'll move.

    Jays fans and the majority of the Toronto media are so enamoured with JP Ricciardi right now that if he did trade Delgado, he'd get the benefit of the doubt. Besides, JP does not seem to base his decisions on the opinions of fans or the media anyways, so I'm not quite certain what your point is. Perhaps if you were referring to the Maple Leafs this argument about abrasive fans would hold water. Unfortunately outside of thinking that it looks like JP is doing a pretty good job so far, nobody really cares enough about the Jays to have their head up anyone's ass.



    (edited by scabby on 18.2.04 1508)


Oh yes, the Toronto media loves JP Riccardi so much that just last summer the Toronto Star ran a huge front page story that stopped just short of calling him a racist. Gimme a break.

My point was this. Yes, Carlos Delgado hits a lot of home runs. Yes, until the all star break, he drove in a lot of runs. And every year, the Toronto media is full of stories about how Carlos Delgado should be the league MVP.

What have they won since Carlos Delgado came along? Nothing. He puts up good individual numbers, so Jays fans love him. They don't realize that by tying up all their money in one marquee player they're not going to contend. If Riccardi tried to trade him the press would probably eat him alive. They don't realize what the other options are. Who fared better last year, the Texas Rangers with A-Rod's MVP numbers and a bunch of stiffs or the Florida Marlins who spread out what money they had? If there's one sport where you can not win with one star player, it's baseball.

If Riccardi is smart, and since he's a Billy Beane disciple I think he is, he lets Delgado walk at the end of the season despite what the public wants. If Carlos Delgado were a big draw, the Dome wouldn't be more than half empty night in and night out. The Jays aren't going to lose many more fans. All they're getting at the Dome these days are the loyals anyway. If they put together a team that can win some more ball games, maybe attendance goes back up. After all, it is Toronto, and unless you're the Maple Leafs fan loyalty is proportionate to winning percentage.

And scabby: like our homecoming shirts this year said...don't hate me because I go to Queen's...hate me because I'm better than you.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.54
I have no doubt that unless the Jays are in contention, Delgado will be wearing another uniform by August. I have faith in Riccardi to get something good, however....unlike Beane (who I think is a horribly overrated GM), Riccardi always seems to make good deals and recognizes the importance of acquiring pitching --- yes, I realize that Oakland's staff is phenomenal, but those guys fell into Beane's lap. His 'Moneyball' theory doesn't cover pitching at all.

And don't underrate the Jays...they improved their bullpen 100% from last year, improved their starting pitching, and their lineup should be better, if anything. If they were in the Central, they'd be the favourites.

(edited by Big Bad on 20.2.04 2358)


Wait…if it’s MLK Jr. Day AND Pat Patterson’s Birthday…who gets the token win here?-- Matt "Excalibur05" Hocking on a match between Mark Henry and Rico

MH: What’s a clever way to say that I have a penis?
CJ: Uh…Mark, nobody’s going to buy that shirt.
MH: How about if I say that I’ve got…a…uh…?
CJ: Coming up with T-Shirt ideas is hard Mark, why not leave it to the WWE marketing department.
MH: I know! I’ve got it!
CJ: Got what?
MH: Stank! That’s Mah Stank! I’m gonna make a fortune!!
CJ: “That’s Mah Stank”?
MH: On the front it’ll say “Can You Smell It?” and on the back it’ll say “That’s Mah Stank”. Everybody’ll buy it because they’ll think it’s a Rock shirt.
CJ: You know…you might be on to something there, sad to say.
MH: I can’t wait to show mah stank to Trish.

You know, I have a feeling that Spanky didn’t quit, he was fired. Why? So they could repackage Mark Henry as “Stanky.” Think about THAT!
--Matt "Excalibur05" Hocking, 1/19/04 Raw Satire


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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.08
The "X" Factor in the Jays' 2004 season is the hideous new logo and uniform.

For the Nth year in a row, the AL East will finish Yankees-Red Sox-Blue Jays-Orioles-Devil Rays.
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Am I the only person thinking that Major League Baseball should adopt a playoff qualification procedure similar to the NHL? I mean...what's with good teams getting shafted due to their divisional stature?



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Well, the three division winners get in. And a fourth team gets in via winning the Wild Card. The Jays still have a shot, its just highly unlikely that they'll win. Basically they're competing in a division with the Red Sox, A's, Mariners, Angels and Yankees.





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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.10
    Originally posted by Freeway420
    Am I the only person thinking that Major League Baseball should adopt a playoff qualification procedure similar to the NHL? I mean...what's with good teams getting shafted due to their divisional stature?


If not for the fact that the AL Central is horrendous every single year I'd say that baseball's playoff procedure is pretty good. It'd probably be better if they had the four slots but only two divisions as they were pre-1995, but I don't see them ever condensing things like that again.



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