I know that you guys here are more tech-savvy than I am, so I figured I could use your expertise. I'm finally retiring my old laptop for a new, more powerful computer. I don't have any idea where to look, other than the usual outlets of Best Buy, Circuit City, and Dell. I've also given thought of joining the Mac revolution. I'm looking to spend about $2000 and will basically be using the computer for photoshop, itunes, and the internet. I think I'm actually leaning towards a desktop this time. I hate upgrading and buying new machines, so it's going to have to last and be able to do it's job.
Also, I noticed that if you buy a Mac from an Apple store, they'll take your data from the old machine and move it to the new one. I'd love for them to do that, but apparently they need my old windows OS disk, which I haven't seen for years. How hard would it be to switch data from one machine or the other?
It's probably the Mac hater in me, but I know far too many people who were longtime Windows users but decided to give this hip Mac thing a try, only to ditch it within weeks. Of course there's plenty of others who love it, so maybe you should go to an Apple store if you have one there and test drive for a little while before considering it.
I would not buy from Best Buy or Circuit City. Their prices aren't good and the options are limited. Buying online will get you a much better deal. Use sites like gotapex or techbargins to find some really great deals easily.
That price should be able to land you a really good desktop with ease. In just checking out Dell's website, you can pick up something like this:
XPS 410 Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 processor 2GB Ram (667) 320 GB hard drive DVD burner 256MB Nvidia Geforce 8600GT video card 22 Inch widescreen flat panel monitor
for right at $1700. But again, check the deal websites and I'd be suprised if you can't find even better deals.
Oh and it's not hard really to move data from one computer to the other. You can pick up a transfer cable and it's easy.
I've had my mac laptop for *almost* 6 months now -- I love it! It just works. Your requirements are internet, iTunes & Photoshop? I can't imagine why you'd want to mess with a Windows machine! Safari (browser) & iTunes are installed on the machine out of the box.
The one trick is Photoshop. Do you mean real, hardcore Adobe Photoshop, per se? Or just some sort of picture editing capability? Basic picture editing is easy. If you really need real, full Photoshop, that's another whacking big pile of $$$ for a mac version. (I assume in that case that you've already shelled out the whacking pile of $$$ for a Windows version of Photoshop.)
Why are you thinking desktop? I love the portability of the laptop -- get a little wireless networking & even a wireless printer -- it's great! I don't feel like I'm missing any performance or anything from laptop vs. desktop...
Do you have an Apple store you can go visit? They'll let you play all you want, leave you alone to play, answer questions. Go play! My experience was that they're knowledgeable as all hell. "Hey, I want to edit pictures." "OK, here's what you do."
I'd also ask them more about the "port your stuff for you" option. I didn't use that, but it sounded like they'd do a really nice job of that.
I've seen and have heard a lot of people talk about "mac this and Mac that" when it comes to Photoshop....
XP Pro 2 Gigs of RAM Celeron D. PCI Express 256 meg video card Photoshop CS2
And I edit photos quickly and effectively. I also use Adobe After Effects, and that works well too (albiet the render times are HUGE....but it will be that way for any system). The money you spend on a Mac you can likely get a more powerful PC, simple as that.
Notebooks vs Desktops....once more it comes down to price; you can stuff a desktop with a lot more items than you can a notebook.
I can speak for Dell's products and give some suggestions (as a Dell employee I hope I can!)....(for example XPS 1210 is GREAT for notebooks....you can get great power out of a tiny tiny tiny machiene). If you want more info, fire me a PM.
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Originally posted by El NastioI've seen and have heard a lot of people talk about "mac this and Mac that" when it comes to Photoshop.... And I edit photos quickly and effectively. I also use Adobe After Effects, and that works well too (albiet the render times are HUGE....but it will be that way for any system). The money you spend on a Mac you can likely get a more powerful PC, simple as that.
Well, clearly I'm not a PC guy, but I'll defend my Mac. I also agree that the Photoshop selling point with Mac wasn't all it was cracked up to be.
Having said that (and balancing wmatistic's Mac hate), the only time I've ever missed Windows was for gaming - and that went away entirely with the purchase of my PS2. If it weren't for iTunes, I would have talked my girlfriend into installing Ubuntu on her laptop months ago - but then I went and bought her an iPod for her birthday, killing that idea entirely.
My PowerBook is two years old, and I still think it is the best computer I have ever owned. My girlfriend's Dell laptop caused her more headaches in the first six months than my PowerBook has in two years.
El Nastio does bring up a good point - you might get a little more "umph" for your buck buying a PC. That might be a consideration (although there are some decent MacBooks for under $1500).
My advice would be to go with what you are comfortable with. I am fairly certain the new Macs would win you over - but if you want to spend money on something with which you are familiar, then go with a PC.
Originally posted by LeroyMy PowerBook is two years old, and I still think it is the best computer I have ever owned. My girlfriend's Dell laptop caused her more headaches in the first six months than my PowerBook has in two years.
I'll second, third, and fourth that if possible. I've worked with Macs for ten years, the only ones in an office that is otherwised filled with PCs. I can count on one hand the number of times I've had an issue with ANY of my computers, from my original G3 to my current MacBook Pro. OTOH, we have a contract with a local company to deal with our PCs, and we see the guy every couple of months or so.
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I really like Macs. My fiance has a Mac Mini and it is very nice. The only thing I'm worried about is that it seems like there are so many more powerful PC's out there for the same price as Macs with more memory, bigger hard drives, and more options. I figure I'm going to try to squeeze five years out of it like my current computer. Can I expect a five year lifespan out of a current MacBook or MacBook Pro?
It's hard to expect 5 years out of any computer realistically, but I think with the mac you have as good a shot as you do with anything.
Lise is still using her year old MacBook and it runs great. We've had no problems with it outside of a slight case discoloration at the palm rests.
I have a G3 laptop that she used for 3 years before we got that one, and it was used when we got it. It is still very responsive for iTunes and internet surfing, or light word processing. It isn't a powerhouse but it works.
Basically, if you are happy with how it works now (and you probably will be) you will probably be happy with it in 5 years because there is less spyware/crapware slowing it down. Honestly, if you could keep a pristine disk image on a Windows machine for 5 years you would probably be happy with it too.
Gotta be honest, I don't know why Dell would bother shipping you drivers for an OS you didn't purchase from them, especially when they provide the drivers online already(assuming they made XP drivers for that system).