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The MSNBC guys seemed pretty impressed when Brian Williams, as part of his "Truth Squad" segment, dug up a "Meet the Press" clip from September 14, 2003:

"...we will have struck a major blow right at the heart of the base, if you will, the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11."

The problem with playing a ten second clip is it lacks some context. Fortunately, there's a complete transcript of the episode in question at http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3080244/ - let's take a look at an extended version of that soundbite and I'll unfairly add MY own emphasis:


    MR. RUSSERT: The Congressional Budget Office said that: That the Army lacks sufficient active-duty forces to maintain its current level of nearly 150,000 troops in Iraq beyond next spring. In a report that underscores the stress being place on the military by the occupation of Iraq, the CBO said the Armys goals of keeping the same number of troops in Iraq and limiting tours of duty there to a year while maintaining its current presence elsewhere in the world were impossible to sustain without activating more National Guard or Reserve units.

    Can we keep 150,000 troops beyond next spring without, in effect, breaking the Army?

    VICE PRES. CHENEY: Tim, we can do what we have to do to prevail in this conflict. Failures not an option. And go back again and think about whats involved here. This is not just about Iraq or just about the difficulties we might encounter in any one part of the country in terms of restoring security and stability. This is about a continuing operation on the war on terror. And its very, very important we get it right. If were successful in Iraq, if we can stand up a good representative government in Iraq, that secures the region so that it never again becomes a threat to its neighbors or to the United States, so its not pursuing weapons of mass destruction, so that its not a safe haven for terrorists, now we will have struck a major blow right at the heart of the base, if you will, the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11. They understand whats at stake here. Thats one of the reasons theyre putting up as much of a struggle as they have, is because they know if we succeed here, that thats going to strike a major blow at their capabilities.

    MR. RUSSERT: So the resistance in Iraq is coming from those who were responsible for 9/11?

    VICE PRES. CHENEY: No, I was careful not to say that.
    With respect to 9/11, 9/11, as I said at the beginning of the show, changed everything. And one of the things it changed is we recognized that time was not on our side, that in this part of the world, in particular, given the problems weve encountered in Afghanistan, which forced us to go in and take action there, as well as in Iraq, that we, in fact, had to move on it. The relevance for 9/11 is that what 9/11 marked was the beginning of a struggle in which the terrorists come at us and strike us here on our home territory. And its a global operation. It doesnt know national boundaries or national borders. And the commitment of the United States going into Afghanistan and take down the Taliban and stand up a new government, to go into Iraq and take down the Saddam Hussein regime and stand up a new government is a vital part of our long-term strategy to win the war on terror. Americas going to be safer and more secure in the years ahead when we complete the task in Iraq successfully, and we will complete it successfully. And whatever the cost is, in terms of casualties or financial resources, its a whale of a lot less than trying to recover from the next attack in the United States. So what we do on the ground in Iraq, our capabilities here are being tested in no small measure, but this is the place where we want to take on the terrorists. This is the place where we want to take on those elements that have come against the United States, and its far more appropriate for us to do it there and far better for us to do it there than it is here at home.

    We talk about $87 billion. Yeah, thats a significant expense. No question about it. But its going to be much more expensive down the road if we wait. And itll be uch more expensiveits less money, frankly, than the events of 9/11 imposed on us here in the United States.


So what does that prove? Well....nothing. I just thought it was...interesting.

I emailed my "soundbite" version of this to MSNBC on a larf since their phone was busy. I also decided to mail it to the cablenewser blog dude. Why not?


(edited by CRZ on 6.10.04 0044)


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    Originally posted by CRZ, who quoted NBC and Dick Cheney
    Americas going to be safer and more secure in the years ahead when we complete the task in Iraq successfully, and we will complete it successfully.


Not that your passage isn't interesting, but will the U.S. be safer and more secure in the years ahead if Saddam Hussein isn't the main enemy and OBL/Al Qaida is?
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I do think that the context shows a problem with the Kedwards strategy. They insist that Cheney said there was a connection, and insist that the administration insists theat Saddam Hussein was responsibile for 9/11 when there is really no proof of such statement.

Of course, it is a deceit.



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Well, after the GOP released a press release pretty much saying what I said in post #1 (and how scary is it that I ended up on the same page as the RNC), Chris Matthews led off tonight's "Hardball" by playing the entire "Meet the Press" clip, so good for him...even if it played more like a CYA move while I was watching it on my TV. (My opinion)

See also: http://www.gop.com/RNCResearch/Read.aspx?ID=4807
For a WMV: http://media1.streamtoyou.com/rnc/matthewsresponsefinal.wmv



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http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/ Public/Articles/000/000/003/378fmxyz.asp Interesting read. Alleged involvement from 1990 to 2003 just prior the start of the Iraq War.
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