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Since: 18.3.02
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#1 Posted on

I put this here, because it's bound to draw some "political" comments. It was in my church bulletin this weekend and I thought it profound that something from 1526 would apply so well today.


    Written by Dr. Martin Luther in 1526
    "What men write about war, saying that it is a great plague, is all true. But they should also consider how great the plague is that war prevents. If people were good and wanted to keep peace, war would be the greatest plague on earth. But what are you going to do about the fact that people will not keep the peace, but rob, steal, kill, outrage women and children, and take away property and honor? The small lack of peace called war or the sword must set a limit to this universal, worldwide lack of peace which would destroy everyone."




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Here here...



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Since: 8.1.02
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#3 Posted on
Just as an aside, didn't King end up opposing the Vietnam War before his death? Not to say that this alters his stance on war, but I do recall reading that somewhere.

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Since: 18.3.02
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#4 Posted on
If you're referring to Martin Luther King, Jr., then yes I believe you are right. This quote however is from Dr. Martin Luther (no King)...and, unless he was omniscient, had no thoughts about the Vietnam war whatsoever...given that it was 1526.

FYI - I did the same "double-take" at the name when I read this in church.




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Of course, Dr. Luther also said "I have learned to ascribe the honor of infallibility only to those books that are accepted as canonical. I am profoundly convinced that none of these writers has erred." in regards to the Bible. And from that infallible work in Exodus 20:1-2 "Thou shalt not kill"



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#6 Posted on
OOPS, big boo-boo. Sorry.

Just as another aside, thou shall not *kill* is not the best interpretation of Exodus. The Hebrews did plenty of killing with all those offerings, you know.

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Since: 7.11.02
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#7 Posted on
And, the God who gave the order not to 'kill' also smote whole tribes of Palestinians. Furthermore, if you take 'kill' to its logical extreme, then we would not be able to eat animals (or even plants) because we 'kill' them at some point in the process of eating them.

I think that you need a little more context in comparing/reconciling those two quotes.
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    Originally posted by Grimis
    Here here...
It's "hear hear" and I'm gonna ban the next person that types it wrong GOSH DARN IT!

What the hell is "here here" supposed to mean anyway. Sound like you callin' a DAWG



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    Originally posted by CRZ
    "hear hear" and I'm gonna ban the next person that types it wrong GOSH DARN IT!

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