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Delgado runner-up to MVP A-Rod

I haven't seen the complete voting totals, but TEN players got first-place votes (and that's not the record, either). My favorite part of the story reveals the bonuses awarded. A-Rod gets $500k for winning, Shannon Stewart gets $25k for finishing third, and Bret Boone gets $250k for finishing tenth. Shannon should get Boonie's agent's number, stat.

(edited by JayJayDean on 17.11.03 1139)

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Here are the results:

Player/Club                  1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th Points

Alex Rodriguez, Texas 6 5 6 6 2 1 1 - 1 - 242
Carlos Delgado, Toronto 5 8 3 1 1 2 4 1 1 - 210
Jorge Posada, New York 5 4 4 3 4 1 1 - 1 - 194
Shannon Stewart, Minnesota 3 2 2 3 2 3 2 1 2 1 140
David Ortiz, Boston 4 3 2 2 - 3 - - 1 - 130
Manny Ramirez, Boston 1 3 3 1 1 1 2 3 1 1 103
Nomar Garciaparra, Boston 1 2 1 - 6 2 2 1 - 2 99
Vernon Wells, Toronto 1 - 1 3 1 1 4 3 2 1 84
Carlos Beltran, Kansas City - - 1 4 2 2 1 2 3 3 77
Bret Boone, Seattle - - 1 1 3 2 - 4 4 2 65
Miguel Tejada, Oakland 1 - 1 1 1 - 2 - 2 2 49
Bill Mueller, Boston - - 2 - 1 2 3 - - 1 45
Jason Giambi, New York 1 - - 1 - 1 1 1 - 3 36
Garret Anderson, Anaheim - - - 1 2 1 - 3 1 - 35
Keith Foulke, Oakland - - 1 - - - - 1 3 3 20
Frank Thomas, Chicago - - - 1 - - 1 2 1 1 20
Eric Chavez, Oakland - - - - 1 1 - 2 - 1 18
Carlos Lee, Chicago - - - - - 1 1 1 2 - 16
Magglio Ordonez, Chicago - - - - - 1 1 1 1 2 16
Alfonso Soriano, New York - - - - 1 1 - 1 - 1 15
Derek Jeter, New York - 1 - - - - - - - 1 10
Pedro Martinez, Boston - - - - - 1 - - 1 - 7
Ichiro Suzuki, Seattle - - - - - 1 - - - 1 6
Esteban Loaiza, Chicago - - - - - - 1 - - - 4
Jason Varitek, Boston - - - - - - 1 - - - 4
Aubrey Huff, Tampa Bay - - - - - - - - 1 2 4
Mariano Rivera, New York - - - - - - - 1 - - 3


Incidentally, Derek Jeter 2nd? Jason Giambi got a 1st palce vote? The hell?

{EDIT: Formatted the formatted text - CRZ}

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He won it by default, more or less. The best pitcher wasn't a viable MVP candidate. Delgado and Ichiro put themselves out of the running in the last two months of the year and every other name player was either injured or had an off-year or didn't produce from wire to wire.

So they did the only thing they could do and gave it to the biggest name player in the American League, who granted had a great year statistically, but I just don't think the MVP award should go to a player on a last place team, no matter how good his stats are.

Because I'm pretty sure they could have finished in last place without him.

I just find it funny that if the season ended in July, Ichiro would have been my pick, and he gets on a grand total of 2 ballots. But then again, my NL MVP pick was Gary Sheffield, so we'll see how close I am there.

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    Originally posted by Blanket Jackson
    He won it by default, more or less. The best pitcher wasn't a viable MVP candidate. Delgado and Ichiro put themselves out of the running in the last two months of the year and every other name player was either injured or had an off-year or didn't produce from wire to wire.

    So they did the only thing they could do and gave it to the biggest name player in the American League, who granted had a great year statistically, but I just don't think the MVP award should go to a player on a last place team, no matter how good his stats are.

    Because I'm pretty sure they could have finished in last place without him.

    I just find it funny that if the season ended in July, Ichiro would have been my pick, and he gets on a grand total of 2 ballots. But then again, my NL MVP pick was Gary Sheffield, so we'll see how close I am there.

    (edited by Blanket Jackson on 17.11.03 1156)





If it was held in July, people would be screaming for drug tests for those who had David Ortiz finishing ahead of Manny and No-Arm. Or just for having David Ortiz finish ahead of anyone.



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KEITH FOULKE got a third-place vote?! And who the hell voted for Aubrey Huff?



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Also interesting is that Delgado (and Vernon Wells) were left off the ballot by Chicago writer Joe Cowley in favour of Esteban Loaiza and Frank Thomas. The FUCK??? That's just a blatant bias.



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Did you hear Carlos Delgado's rant about how he should have won? It sounded like a kid in the fourth grade complaining because A-Rod got picked first for the sandlot team at recess. A disgrace, and it makes me even more happy that he didn't win it.

The way the voting has been conducted this year as a whole has been a sham. Between Matsui losing the ROY because certain writers didn't agree with the rules and guys like Vernon Wells and Miguel Tejada (hey, I'm an A's fan and I know that's a joke) getting first place votes for MVP? It's a crock. There's bias all over the place...but then again, in a league headed by Bud Selig, maybe that's somehow appropriate...
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    Originally posted by JayJayDean
    KEITH FOULKE got a third-place vote?! And who the hell voted for Aubrey Huff?


Some scribe from either the St. Pete Times or the Tampa Tribune. That's the only possible explanation.
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    Originally posted by Blanket Jackson
      Originally posted by JayJayDean
      KEITH FOULKE got a third-place vote?! And who the hell voted for Aubrey Huff?


    Some scribe from either the St. Pete Times or the Tampa Tribune. That's the only possible explanation.


I asked the question somewhat rhetorically, but upon examination, if your answer is correct there still leaves one other vote for Huff unaccounted for, since two writers from each AL city get a vote.



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