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Since: 23.10.02
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#1 Posted on
I'm talking about a best of 7 series between wrestlers. I've only seen this idea used twice in all my years of watching wrestling and both times it was VERY GOOD, memorable, and elevated everyone involved.


The first time was back in the day, the NWA had a best of 7 series between Magnum TA and Nikita Koloff to determine the U.S. Champion.

The second time was in WCW a few years back. They had a series between Booker T and Chris Benoit. It was this series that really gave legitimacy to Booker T as a singles wrestler.


Can you imagine how great it would be if Stephanie decided she was sick of the bickering between her Tag Team Champions, Kurt Angle and Chris Benoit, so she decided to settle it with a best of 7 series? They could even spice it up by using different types of matches during the series (cage, submission, ladder, etc.).

This could also be great with other feuds as well. Chris Jericho vs. Booker T. Eddy Guerrero vs. Chris Benoit. Maybe they could build up a Rey Mysterio vs. Chavo Guerrero feud and top it off with a best of 7 that could elevate 2 guys, especially Chavo.
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#2 Posted on
They did have a best of 5 series, The T.I.T., between the Hardy Boyz and Edge & Christian, which culminated in their famous first ladder match against each other. And yeah, that was a major part in them starting to truly get over.



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Since: 23.10.02
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#3 Posted on

    Originally posted by spf2119
    They did have a best of 5 series, The T.I.T., between the Hardy Boyz and Edge & Christian, which culminated in their famous first ladder match against each other. And yeah, that was a major part in them starting to truly get over.


Excellent point! I didn't even think of that being a best of series but, you're right, it was a best of 5. They also had some good TV matches during that series, even before their great ladder match at the end.
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#4 Posted on
I liked the Benoit/Booker Best of Seven, but it will never have the hatred and passion that flowed through the Magnum/Nikita Best of Seven. Main reason why I doubt they would use it again is because the writers don't have the attention span to think up a Best of Seven, then again, at times I wonder whether the writers have the attention span to think of a Best of One.



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#5 Posted on

    Can you imagine how great it would be if Stephanie decided she was sick of the bickering between her Tag Team Champions, Kurt Angle and Chris Benoit, so she decided to settle it with a best of 7 series? They could even spice it up by using different types of matches during the series (cage, submission, ladder, etc.).


Jesus! Don't tease me with something like that!

Sadly, I've never seen the Magnum/Nikita best of 7 series. Benoit/Booker made for some excellent matches, though. Knowing the current writing staff, though, any "best of X" series would probably end in match 6 or something just to deny us a PPV final.
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#6 Posted on
I, actually, would like to see more of this sort of thing among the cruisers...



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#7 Posted on
Throw me in for a nice Best of Seven as well.

Mick Foley wrote in Have A Nice Day that he proposed a best-of-seven deathmatch series between him and Terry Funk to have taken place in early-1998, culminating in the big boom at WrestleMania. It ended up getting nixed due to them not wanting people bleeding and blowing each other up at WrestleMania when they were hoping to get new fans in, and turned into Mick and Funk teaming instead.

I'm also a sucker for a good tournament, which is why I loved the WWE tag team tourney so much. I'd love a double-elimination cruiserweight tourney. It'd take about three months.
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
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I'd like to see a best of 7 series much like they do in major sports where each wrestler would have a homefield advantage in a series. Take for example a title matchup between Brock Lesnar and Kurt Angle. We'll give Brock the homefield edge since he's the champion. Brock's home will be the Target Center in Minneapolis, while Angle's home will be the Mellon Arena in Pittsburgh. Of course, undercard matches will be scheduled as well. The schedule would follow the 2-3-2 format, such as the following:

Match 1 - Angle at Lesnar
Match 2 - Angle at Lesnar
Match 3 - Lesnar at Angle
Match 4 - Lesnar at Angle
Match 5* - Lesnar at Angle
Match 6* - Angle at Lesnar
Match 7* - Angle at Lesnar

*if necessary (like a best-of series in wrestling wouldn't go the distance)
If you wanted to add some more fun, you could make a couple of the matches on the schedule gimmick matches. On paper, the partisan hometown crowds, the drama of watching a series unfold in other sports carried over to wrestling, and the amateur wrestling background of both men would make this exciting to watch. Admittedly though, it would be a logistic nightmare.




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#9 Posted on
I think the main reason why we won't be seeing Best-Of-Sevens anytime soon is, with the brand extension and the era of monthly PPVs, there's not enough time to have the first 6 on free TV and the last on a PPV - it'd have to span two PPVs, and WWE just doesn't book angles like that anymore.

With Booker T vs Benoit, they could have matches on Nitro, Thunder and Saturday Night; and wrap the whole thing up in 2 or 3 weeks. If the WWE is *really* interested in improving the ratings for Heat and Velocity, they could always have parts of a series on there, but I doubt it'll happen.

Oh, and WCW's entire mid-card pretty much ruled it those couple years - the seemingly endless string of matches with Booker T, Benoit, Fit Finlay, Raven, DDP... damn. Not to mention all the cruisers. I miss WCW.

Dude.

Oh yeah, and best-of-sevens rule. They're the best way to get great workers over, especially ones who've learned to tell a story in the ring (but not yet on the mic).



not into the whole brevity thing, man
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Since: 10.4.02
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#10 Posted on

    Originally posted by The 5th Horseman
    I'm talking about a best of 7 series between wrestlers. I've only seen this idea used twice in all my years of watching wrestling and both times it was VERY GOOD, memorable, and elevated everyone involved.

    The second time was in WCW a few years back. They had a series between Booker T and Chris Benoit. It was this series that really gave legitimacy to Booker T as a singles wrestler.



I love the fact that every time the Booker T vs Benoit best of seven gets brought up, no one ever mentions that the purpose was to a shot a Fit Finlay.

Fit Finlay kicks ass!



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#11 Posted on
Didnt Flair and Regal Have a Best of Series at one point?
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Since: 6.10.02
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#12 Posted on
I'd think the Best of 7 series is successful just BECAUSE it's rarely used, and I'd like to keep it that way until a really hate-filled feud erupts. Maybe Benoit/Angle if they let the angle burn a while longer...



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#13 Posted on
Maybe a best-of-7 between Gayda and Moolah? By comparison, ANY other series would look that much better.



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#14 Posted on
Don't say things like that, Darryl! They might actually get on TV! Then again, if that's the case....

Best of 7: HBK vs. Chris Jericho

Match 1: Pinfalls only
Match 2: Submissions only
Match 3: Cage
Match 4: Hardcore
Match 5: Hell in a Cell
Match 6: Ladder
Match 7: The House of Pain

For all of you out there saying "Huh?"...the House of Pain is either the WCW name for the Ready to Rumble Triple Cage or HITC. I want the final match to be in the R2R Triple Cage.



Why do I watch? Because every episode has the potential to be the best one ever, and I'll be DAMNED if I'm gonna miss that one after sitting through this shit.
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#15 Posted on
the House of Pain is either the WCW name for the Ready to Rumble Triple Cage or HITC.


Neither, the House of pain was a horrendously stupid cage match.

Standard cage match, with handcuffs cuffed to the cage at various places, object of the match, was to cuff your opponents to the cage, and beat the hell out of them whiel they are cuffed there.
Swordsman Yen
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Since: 16.2.02
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
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I think for any dream best of seven match, Match 7 should culminate in a 60 minute Iron Man Match with overtime if necessary. The possibility of OT after 60 grueling minutes preceded by 6 hard-fought matches can only add to the drama.



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#17 Posted on
A best of seven can be done in the month leading up to the PPV.
Just to break the mould from Angle vs Benoit we go with Taker vs HHH.

week 1 - first match..(normal rules)
week 2 - well doh..second (normal rules)
week 3 - third (things heat up, no-DQ)
week 4 - fourth (more heated, falls count anywhere)
PPV - triple threat!!
match 1 - streetfight
match 2 - normal rules, maybe even some extra stips to enforce stuff)
match 3 - Cage match

It can be done, but it would still need a longer than a month feud, to get to the point where things need to be decided in a best-of-seven.
Or a good promo "Taker, you messed with me for the final time..now we settle this in a best of seven"



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Since: 23.10.02
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#18 Posted on

    Originally posted by dMp
    it would still need a longer than a month feud, to get to the point where things need to be decided in a best-of-seven


I don't think there has to be a lot of hatred in a feud to push a best of 7 series. Sure, a hatred filled feud would add another element to a best of 7 but, it's not necessary. All you need is 2 competitive opponents that each want to prove they are better than the other.

The Benoit-Booker T best of 7 series didn't have any hatred or much of any history. It was just 2 guys that wanted to win and get a shot at the TV Championship. That worked out fine and really advanced both guys in the singles division.

I see the Benoit-Angle feud in much the same way, which is what made me think of a best of 7 series (plus, any excuse to have another 7 Benoit-Angle matches is good). It's 2 ultra competitive characters that want to prove they are better than the other. That would add plenty of intensity to a best of 7 series.
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#19 Posted on
Great idea. They should involve HHH so he could sweep in four straight matche.
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#20 Posted on
Triple vs. Steiner, witht he final match in the most dangerous environment for a wrestling match ever conceived:

THE ASYLUM!!!!!
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