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Didn't Ric Fliehr used to be a MEMBER OF THE NWO??? What in the world happened to that angle? Or was there some explanation I missed somewhere.

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First off, it's Flair. Using real names (and misspelled) just looks dumb, especially when you're talking about Ric Flair the CHARACTER, and not Ric Flair the PERSON.

Second off, no, Flair never joined the nWo or even came close. They very quickly teased it in 1996 when the nWo first formed, but it never went any further than that.

Flair's been FIGHTING the nWo since they first formed. Checking the supercards site, on nearly every pay-per-view Flair was on since the nWo's formation until their first major breakup (1998), he was fighting an nWo member.

EDIT: I got bored, so to elaborate...

Fall Brawl '96 - Flair was in War Games with Luger, Arn and Sting against Hogan, Hall, Nash and nWo Sting.
Halloween Havoc '96 - Flair was supposed to wrestle Giant for the US title, but got injured.
Slamboree '97 - Flair returns from injury, teams with Piper and Kevin Greene to beat Hall/Nash/Syxx.
Great American Bash '97 - Flair and Piper lose to the Outsiders.
Bash At The Beach '97 - Flair takes a break from the nWo to lose to Piper. Dummy.
Road Wild '97 - Flair makes Syxx his bytch.
Fall Brawl '97 - Yet another War Games against the nWo (Benoit/Mongo/Flair/Hennig vs. Buff/Nash/Syxx/Konnan), yet another drubbing (Hennig turns and slams Flair's head in the cage door)
Halloween Havoc '97 - Flair loses to Hennig by DQ.
World War 3 '97 - Flair loses to Hennig, this time by pinfall.
Starrcade '97 - Another injury takes Flair out, where he was supposed to face Hennig in a cage.

Flair disappeared after this because of a combo of his injury (ankle, I believe) and the supposed breach of contract. What was he doing when he got back?

Starrcade '98 - Lost to Eric Bischoff. Who led the nWo. Coincidence, right.
Souled Out '99 - Ric and David Flair beat Windham and Hennig. Afterward, the nWo beat the crap outta both of them. Not really an nWo match, but close enough.
SuperBrawl '99 - Flair loses to Hogan.
Uncensored '99 - Flair beats Hogan by pinfall in a first blood match. Yes, you read that right.
Spring Stampede '99 - Flair loses the World title to DDP in a four-way involving Sting and Hogan. Not REALLY an nWo match, because the nWo was basically dead and Hogan was face by then.

After that, it broke down to the nutty owner Flair beating up Piper and basically going to hell.

So it actually went from the first time Flair could really get a piece of the nWo (Fall Brawl - the nWo was all busy at Hog Wild '96 and Flair was defending the US title anyway) until they pretty much died in '99. Sad, huh?

Mike

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Psst ... Mike. C'mere, bud. You REALLY need to lay off the weed. You know what they say about it destroying short-term memory? Seems to be the case here.

Just recently Flair turned on Austin in a match against the nWo and partnered with The Big Show on a WWE PPV against Austin. I think that's what socetew is referring to. Remember that?

However, socetew, I don't think that was actually Flair joining the nWo rather than Flair using the nWo to get Austin, story-wise. Did he ever wear Los Colores? I think it was pretty much immediately played off as Nash still the leader, and Flair went his own way as the heel owner out to get Austin, who partnered with the nWo towards that means, nothing else.
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Okay, thanks, Hokienautic. That question had been plaguing me for the last few weeks. I know that WWE likes to kill plotlines, like the Rik/Ric tag team champions, and possibly this whole split thing, but if Flair actually was genuinely in the NWO (and not just momentarily siding with TBS), then that would've been utterly ridiculous. So, his real name is actually Fleihr? Sorry, I looked it up on a very credible site before typing it, but I guess they got it wrong. No worries, I have just informed the site's owner.

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Just recently Flair turned on Austin in a match against the nWo and partnered with The Big Show on a WWE PPV against Austin. I think that's what socetew is referring to. Remember that?

Yes, but guess what? Flair wasn't nWo, was he?

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He wasn't N.W.O., but it looked like he could possibly be joining.



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#7 Posted on
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Follow-up question: Who's idea (plotwise) was it to put Booker T in the NWO? That was Ric's, right? It didn't seem like anyone in the NWO actually ever wanted him there. Besides, he wasn't even part of the Kliq (sp?).

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I think the whole idea behind putting Booker T in the nWo was to play out his heel card, and then turn him face because he'd never fit in with the nWo.

Add one Shawn Michaels superkick to officially kick him out of the Black & White, and there you go: a brand new face for the RAW roster! (He is still part of RAW, ain't he?)

As for Flair's storyline authority to put him there in the first place: they could get away with that one because at the time, Flair was the heel owner of RAW. Therefore, the nWo sympathized with him some, and complied with his almost ad-hoc orders...unlike when he was a face owner, and they told him "we only take orders from Vince."

But Flair never officially joined nWo...and thank goodness. After all his backhistory in WCW fighting them, his "Vince, don't bring in the nWo" promos prior to the split, and now with the nWo being all Kliq-ified, there's no way the Nature Boy would fit in.

Besides, now that Vince beat him, he's probably gonna be a face again. But which show will he end up on?



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The very next week (I think) Nash showed up and expressed disgust with having Booker as a new member and said, "Flair runs Raw, but NASH runs the nWo."
So Flair wasn't really even in cahoots with them, he just used them while Nash wasn't around. He fired Hall and used Big Show and X-Pac while big Kev wasn't around.
Come to think of it, why doesn't Nash kick the hell out of Flair for firing Hall?
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Well, in the old days, Nash would repeatedly talk about Hall in interviews, or do an interview with a cardboard cutout of Hall. Another time during a Booker T/Jeff Jarrett World Title match, Booker found a picture of Scott Hall inside one of the boxes he had to smash open (inside one of the boxes was the belt, and who got the belt first would be the winner).

But that way leads disaster, as it did then. It's probably best that the WWF forgets about allowing Nash to speak out in Hall's defense on air. Plus, Big Kev probably has to be getting sick of it by this point, because it seems he's always having to defend Scott.



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