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Some high school in California is running a wacky new offense that uses two quarterbacks onfield at the same time. Apparently it's perfectly legal. Who's gonna go in on the pool to see how long it takes Bill Belichick to implement a trick play in this formation? Matt Cassel's gonna play after all!

edit: It has a website!

(edited by ironcladlou on 25.7.08 1030)


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Cool, but I don't get the point of having your O-line be 80% composed of tight ends, since they aren't eligible receivers.



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They might have different rules at the high school level, but indeed all 11 are eligible (at different times).
    Originally posted by http://www.humphinternet.com/A11/about.htm

    The A-11 Offense (All Elevn Players Potentially Eligible) is a new, scrimmage-kick formation based, offensive system.

    The A-11 features up to all eleven players wearing an eligible receiver jersey number, either 1-49 or 80-99, with two quarterbacks in the shotgun formation, and with nobody under center - thereby meeting the criteria for a scrimmage kick formation. In their base sets, Piedmont has a center and a tight end on each side, and three wide receivers to the right, and left respectively. By spreading the potentially eligible receivers across the entire field, it forces the defense to account for every possible receiver on each play. Of course, on any given play, only 5 of those players can go downfield to catch a pass, and the rest remain ineligible to catch a downfield pass on that particular play.


So I guess the idea is that since there's no QB under center, it's basically a fake FG/punt. This apparently changes the rules about putting eligible receivers in blocking positions. I'm thinking a "lineman" still can't lineup to the outside of a WR. I don't know if the Center is allowed to be on the end of a line or not. I'd like to know how many different combinations of eligible receivers you can do.
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Feh, still send 4 up the middle, corners cover the flats while LBs and safeties go man or zone.

No blockers? Awesome for defenses.



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    Originally posted by Lexus
    Feh, still send 4 up the middle, corners cover the flats while LBs and safeties go man or zone.

    No blockers? Awesome for defenses.


Yeah, looking at some of the film they have up, I think a NFL defense would eat this formation alive, one pre-snap had quad recievers to the left, 2 on the right, the 2 quarterbacks, and just a 3-man line.

I can see where it would be a success at the high school level, or even at some colleges, because you can get widely disparaging skill levels, but at the pro level it would have to be reduced to something you see maybe once a season, if that.



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    Originally posted by kwik
      Originally posted by Lexus
      Feh, still send 4 up the middle, corners cover the flats while LBs and safeties go man or zone.

      No blockers? Awesome for defenses.


    Yeah, looking at some of the film they have up, I think a NFL defense would eat this formation alive, one pre-snap had quad recievers to the left, 2 on the right, the 2 quarterbacks, and just a 3-man line.

    I can see where it would be a success at the high school level, or even at some colleges, because you can get widely disparaging skill levels, but at the pro level it would have to be reduced to something you see maybe once a season, if that.


It just wouldn't fly in the NFL. 7 men have to be on the line and the interior 5 are ineligible receivers, plus only an eligible receiver can go into motion.

It sure is fun to watch.



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20 years ago this would have been in the Florida State offense. Didn't Arkansas run something slightly similar to this a few years ago out of a timeout against Auburn when they upset them?
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