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A-MOL
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Since: 26.6.02
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#21 Posted on
Maybe that is because to a lot of the Bush administration, the profits of Halliburton seem more important than Bin Laden and terrorism.



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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29
    Originally posted by A-MOL
    Maybe that is because to a lot of the Bush administration, the profits of Halliburton seem more important than Bin Laden and terrorism.

That's cock and bull and you know it. Christ, I wouldn't even have accused Clinton of something like that.

Getting back to the point of the images of the attack, the photographer of one of the famous images, rarely seen, of a worker jumping to his death, had this to say about it in the LA TimeS:

I have photographed dying. As a 21-year-old rookie photographer on a supposedly routine assignment, I was standing behind Robert F. Kennedy when he was assassinated. That time, there was no telephoto lens to distance me. I was so close that his blood spattered onto my jacket. I saw the life bleed out of him, and I heard Ethel's screams. Pictures that, shot through my tears, still distress me after 35 years. But nobody refused to print them, as they did the 9/11 photo. Nobody looked away

It's hard to say why not. The RFK assassination changed the fabric of American history. But then, so did the destruction of the World Trade Center. The Kennedy pictures were more graphic and, in one sense, more personal. We knew him, as a public figure, a brother, a father and a husband.......

...I continued to wonder why people reacted so differently to the photos of RFK and the World Trade Center.

One editor who objected to my photo said, "Americans don't want to look at pictures of death and dying over their morning cornflakes." I disagree. I think they're fine with it, as long as the victims aren't American.

During the Vietnam War, my friend and colleague Nick Ut took a photograph of a girl who'd been napalmed, running down the road in flames. The picture became an instant icon and won the Pulitzer Prize. But no one in the States worried about getting napalmed. The photo evoked sympathy, not empathy.

In the World Trade Center photo, it's about personal identification. We felt we knew Bobby Kennedy, but we didn't identify with him. We weren't wealthy scions of a political dynasty or presidential candidates. We were just ordinary people who had to show up for work day after day, more often than not in tall office buildings.

Just like the guy at the World Trade Center.




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#23 Posted on
"You're wrong and you know it" is one of the cheapest rhetorical tactics out there, somewhere in the neighborhood of "So what you're saying is (gross misinterpretation)".



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#24 Posted on
    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
    From the informative Ann Coulter article Grimis linked to us: "On the basis of their recent pronouncements, the position of the Democratic Party seems to be that Saddam Hussein did not hit us on 9-11, but Halliburton did."


    No, Ann, you stupid cunt - the position of the Democratic Party, and anyone who actually follows the news and isn't some hideous, propaganda-spewing piece of shit is that we were attacked by OSAMA FUCKING BIN LADEN - you know, the guy that Bush doesn't talk about anymore (unless he's trying to connect him to Iraq), and has described as "not that important anymore".



Ann Coulter is nothing more than a cheerleader for W.

The fact that she would actuallt WRITE that Saddam Hussein was responsible for 9/11 is hilarious, but sadly, not unexpected from a troll such as herself.
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#25 Posted on
    Originally posted by antizeus
    "You're wrong and you know it" is one of the cheapest rhetorical tactics out there, somewhere in the neighborhood of "So what you're saying is (gross misinterpretation)".


When it comes to claming ANY president cares more about money than America, it is pretty ludicrious, despite the fact that we are Democrats and Republicans, Independents, Green party, etc. You might call it naive, but Bush, Dean, Nader, Lieberman, etc. despite differences in ideals all are doing what they think would be best for America. Their political differnces are about ways to run the country, not about who hates the country.



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#26 Posted on
"When it comes to claming ANY president cares more about money than America, it is pretty ludicrious"

Ummm....why? they're just people, like anybody else.

"You might call it naive"

Have you seen The Godfather? There's an exchange between Michael and Kay that's a damn near perfection summation of this.

I do, however, happen to believe that, however stupid, bullying and misguided Dubya is, he does believe that he is doing what's right by America. The people he surrounds himself with are th more likely snakes.





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#27 Posted on
Plus, I didn't say it was Bush, did I?



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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.65
    Originally posted by A-MOL
    Plus, I didn't say it was Bush, did I?
Yeah, actually you implied it in every one of your posts in this thread. Perhaps you need to be more clear - speaking in riddles doesn't work so well when you're trying to make a point.



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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29
At least we got this nut

Passengers duct-tape troublesome passenger on Hawaii-to-LA flight
A Texas man who disrupted a United Airlines flight from Hawaii was subdued with the help of passengers and duct tape, authorities said Sunday.

No one was reported injured, said Sgt. Carl Sansbury of the Los Angeles International Airport police.

Brian Kane Eager, 36, of Austin, was held for 72 hours to undergo a psychological examination, FBI Special Agent Matt McLaughlin said.

United Flight 54 left Honolulu for Los Angeles at about 8:50 p.m. Saturday. About 90 minutes after takeoff, the man got out of his seat and began talking and wandering the aisle, passenger Joseph Gugerty said.

"He was pacing and reading the Bible," said Gugerty who was returning to Kentucky, where he is chief of communications in The Associated Press' Louisville bureau.

"They let him wander back and forth in the plane until he started to move forward," Gugerty said. "Then they surrounded him and pushed him to the floor."

About a half-dozen passengers were involved, he said.

"He becomes agitated. A baby starts crying. He says he has to go help the baby and pushes his way past the flight attendant," McLaughlin said. "He was not trying to gain access to the flight deck."

Passengers and a federal immigration and customs agent who was traveling for personal reasons helped restrain the man but he managed to slip out of handcuffs, McLaughlin said.

The agent then used duct tape to restrain him, and the man was turned over to local police when the plane landed in Los Angeles at about 4:45 a.m., authorities said.

He could face a federal charge of interfering with a flight crew, Sansbury said.




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