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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.46
A little surprised by Nolan not getting director since that is the one I expected he might win. Then again, its the Coen brothers, so its not some no name or some one resting on their laurels. I don't know about Social Network. I could see myself enjoying it since I loved Zombieland and I thought Eisenberg was great in that, but a facebook movie. It kinda reeks of in the time award sorta like Tootsie. The industry has got to stop releasing oscar caliber films in the winter when we most of the country is getting destroyed by snow. True Grit would have been a shoe in to make more money in this summer of suck. Since Inception is the only one I saw this year and thoroughly enjoyed, I'll take that over the hipster film and the British indy that critics love which means it will win while America yawns. I think I will see the King's Speech unless, the snow keeps me locked in my house.
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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.80
    Originally posted by Aloiuqro nhoj
    Listen Doucheking -- no one but you and your retarded Ilk give a fuck about anything other than movie/director/acting. Edit your fucking posts to normal length
You're amusing, but that'll only give you so much leeway around here.

The post length was fine - if you're gonna post a list, post the whole list and save me some extra clicks having to find it myself.

If you don't like it, learn to scroll.



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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.80
    Originally posted by lotjx
    I don't know about Social Network. I could see myself enjoying it since I loved Zombieland and I thought Eisenberg was great in that, but a facebook movie. It kinda reeks of in the time award sorta like Tootsie.
"I didn't see it."

    The industry has got to stop releasing oscar caliber films in the winter when we most of the country is getting destroyed by snow.
I sure hope you've written Hollywood a letter suggesting this!

    True Grit would have been a shoe in to make more money in this summer of suck. Since Inception is the only one I saw this year
"I didn't see True Grit either."

    and thoroughly enjoyed, I'll take that over the hipster film and the British indy that critics love which means it will win while America yawns. I think I will see the King's Speech unless, the snow keeps me locked in my house.
I wish the snow kept you from posting sometimes. (Tell me more about this hot main eventer of 1999, King Ass Billy Gunn!)

Besides, we all know that "The Kids Are All Right" is going to win. CELEBRATE DIVERSITY

DISCLAIMER: I have seen NONE of the nominated films, so my opinion is even more credible than yours



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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.46
Wait, you do a DVD list every week and not seen any of this flicks, WTF?! Hollywood had one of their worst years in a while. Maybe if it was possible, it would be a good idea to get these movies out during a time a year when most of the country is buried inside their homes. You should pray for good weather, so I am not stuck home with nothing, but a laptop in front of me. As for the Billy Gunn thing, it once again got twisted. My argument is "popular" opinion is not always right hence Billy Gunn. Kids are Alright, is the gay friendly lesbian couple who has kids and finds the sperm donor, right? Yeah, I'll pass.
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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.12
    Originally posted by lotjx
    Hollywood had one of their worst years in a while.


You've said this more than once. How do you claim Hollywood had one of their worst years when you haven't even seen most of the films nominated, which this year actually does represent the best films of 2010. If you mean, financially, then yes, box office is down, but if you mean creatively, the Best Picture nominees are all very good or excellent films.

And I've seen 9 out of the 10.



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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.46
I meant Box office. I am not going to argue quality, its more like my desire to see these things. Wife agreed to see True Grit if I go see Black Swan and King's Speech. So, I'll be close to the half way point which is matter then most years now that they expanded Best Picture to a ridiculous level.
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True Grit is already the highest grossing Coen Brothers movie ever - not that they're really the type to make summer blockbusters - so I'd say it's done ok for itself despite winter being cold.
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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
    Originally posted by lotjx
    I meant Box office. I am not going to argue quality, its more like my desire to see these things. Wife agreed to see True Grit if I go see Black Swan and King's Speech. So, I'll be close to the half way point which is matter then most years now that they expanded Best Picture to a ridiculous level.


Black Swan is more of a horror movie than a ballet movie so you might enjoy it more than most wife movie fare. Then again who's to say just what you'll like, Mr. lotjx.
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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.03
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    The King's Speech leads with 13 nominations, but to me, the big news is Christopher Nolan got shafted for a Best Director nod for Inception in favor of The Coen Brothers for True Grit.

    What is the Academy's problem with Nolan? The Dark Knight got shafted for the big awards two years ago. Inception is nominated for Best Picture, but that's because there's a field of 10 nominees. And the reason there's 10 nominees for Best Picture instead of five is because of the uproar over The Dark Knight getting shafted for a Best Picture nomination two years ago.



I don't think it's a problem with Nolan. I think it's a problem with science-fiction and related-genre films. They've always been undervalued by the Oscars and by most general awards shows. Academy perceive a film like Inception as being about the effects rather than about what they value in filmmaking. I'm not saying I agree with it--I don't--but it's true. Anyone want to say now that Ordinary People deserved to beat Empire Strikes Back? I'm sure to most Oscar voters, though, Empire was just lucky to be nominated. (I'm sure people are thinking about arguing that Raging Bull was more deserving than either, but that's beside the point.) I think the next time Nolan does a "serious" film by their way of thinking, he'll stand a very good chance of getting nominated.

I don't really think Toy Story 3 was that great a film, but Pixar is owed a bunch of Best Picture nominations and at least one win, so I certainly won't complain. I noticed that the other night on Jeopardy none of the three contestants could come up with the title "Slumdog Millionaire". The idea that that won Best Picture over Wall-E is going to seem more and more stunning as the years go by. (And Wall-E wasn't even nominated.) But I'm probably repeating something I've posted before...

Answering Big Daddy Loco, I certainly didn't find The Social Network bland. I wouldn't call it one of the all-time greats, which based on its critical scores some people apparently would, but it's well worth seeing. I think it will hold up as being at least a solid film. And I'll be very happy if we get to see Aaron Sorkin pick up an Oscar.
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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.12
    Originally posted by Peter The Hegemon
    I don't think it's a problem with Nolan. I think it's a problem with science-fiction and related-genre films. They've always been undervalued by the Oscars and by most general awards shows. Academy perceive a film like Inception as being about the effects rather than about what they value in filmmaking.


I'd like to concur, but, uh... Avatar? The epitome of being about effects rather than what they value in filmmaking.

Nominated, Best Picture, 2010.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0499549/awards



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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.03
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
      Originally posted by Peter The Hegemon
      I don't think it's a problem with Nolan. I think it's a problem with science-fiction and related-genre films. They've always been undervalued by the Oscars and by most general awards shows. Academy perceive a film like Inception as being about the effects rather than about what they value in filmmaking.


    I'd like to concur, but, uh... Avatar? The epitome of being about effects rather than what they value in filmmaking.

    Nominated, Best Picture, 2010.



Well, sure, but it was the most successful film of all time, and was critically popular as well. You can make a case that it not winning best picture or director tends to validate the theory.

There are other exceptions, too--Lord Of The Rings comes to mind. But I would say that overall science fiction has been undervalued by the Academy relative to its importance as a genre, and superhero films in particular get little credit from the Academy (although, in fairness, there haven't been that many superhero films really worthy of Best Picture consideration).
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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.46
The wife thanks you Shapiro, she knew it was a bit crazy, but not a straight horror flick. Still going, but I can now use the "You were warned." speech when she freaks out and she will freak out.

Avatar also had the benefit of getting thrown into this new stupid 10 man race. It does seem if you take the highest grossing film spot, you will get nominated. If it was down to five last year, you could make the case for District 9, but I do think they would have snuck Avatar in for the ratings not that it did any good anyway. Sci-fi and fantasy is getting more respect then it did in the 90s or some extent the 80s. Dramas will always have the edge since that is "filmmaking." As bad as sci-fi has gotten, comedies tend to get the shaft more then they do nowadays. The rumor for Empire and A New Hope not winning is that if Jedi was as good the other two, it would win as a standing achievement. It had Ewoks and ended on a light note, so it was thrown out even though I would argue two points. One, if the first film is great why wait for a sequel to award it? Its just asinine. Two, A New Hope was better then Cuckoo's nest. Cuckoo had better acting, but A New Hope was the better film.
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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.24
    Originally posted by lotjx
    It does seem if you take the highest grossing film spot, you will get nominated. I


The Dark Knight was the highest-grossing film of 2008 in North American box office and worldwide. Sorry, to beat a dead horse, guys, but Nolan's exclusion for two incredibly lucrative, critically-acclaimed, and wildly popular films in a row grates on me.



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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.46
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
      Originally posted by lotjx
      It does seem if you take the highest grossing film spot, you will get nominated. I


    The Dark Knight was the highest-grossing film of 2008 in North American box office and worldwide. Sorry, to beat a dead horse, guys, but Nolan's exclusion for two incredibly lucrative, critically-acclaimed, and wildly popular films in a row grates on me.


I meant overall like ET, Titanic, Jaws, Godfather, Star Wars and so on..I am not knocking him not getting nominated, but its not like he is Ledger where this is almost last chance to get this. I say, he wins screenplay as the make-up like they did with Tarinto for Pulp Fiction when it was obvious he was not going to win anything else.
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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.00
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
      Originally posted by lotjx
      I meant Box office. I am not going to argue quality, its more like my desire to see these things. Wife agreed to see True Grit if I go see Black Swan and King's Speech. So, I'll be close to the half way point which is matter then most years now that they expanded Best Picture to a ridiculous level.


    Black Swan is more of a horror movie than a ballet movie so you might enjoy it more than most wife movie fare. Then again who's to say just what you'll like, Mr. lotjx.


one of the reasons I was disappointed with Black Swan is that I was (fooled/misled) by the trailer about the actual horror elements in the picture. (is that vague enough without spoiling things?)



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#36 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.00
The Dark Knight was a fun movie, but how great is that movie without the Heath Ledger Joker? The award that needed to be won for that movie was won.

Inception was complex, putting that thing together had to have been a pain in the ass, but I'm not sure what exactly has to be accomplished to win Best Director. It's kind of up for interpretation.
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#37 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
    Originally posted by CRZ
    Besides, we all know that "The Kids Are All Right" is going to win. CELEBRATE DIVERSITY
Nothing that didn't get a Director's nod has any chance at all to win this year, dude. (I apologize if you already knew that and were just looking for a chance to be snarky about gays and/or the Liberal Hollywood Elite.) (Annette Bening will pick up Best Actress, though, I think, so start working on some bons mots now!)
    Originally posted by CRZ
    DISCLAIMER: I have seen NONE of the nominated films, so my opinion is even more credible than yours
I've seen seven so far*, so I get to comment! I think The Social Network will win; its only competition is The King's Speech. Neither would be my choice -- Inception would be, followed by True Grit -- but Nolan's bizarre absence from the Director category precludes the former and the latter got shut out of the Golden Globes, which isn't a good sign.

I'm predicting Social Network over King's Speech because King's Speech just feels kind of...been-there-done-that to me -- yet another "oh, look, more Royals" movie. (Colin Firth is pretty tremendous, though, and he'll pick up Best Actor for it.)

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#38 Posted on
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    I keep hearing great things about The Social Network, and it just looks bland to me. Is the Social Network really one of those movies that will hold up even 5 to 10 years?


I dunno about a decade from now but while I LOL'd at the thought of a Facebook movie it's actually really good. Not very accurate, but if you take it as a work of fiction that's based on reality it's a great film. Go see it.

    Originally posted by lotjx
    Avatar also had the benefit of getting thrown into this new stupid 10 man race.


THIS. It was the whole reason for the 10 movie race. If you don't have a best directing & best lead acting nom you're not one of the "real" best picture nominees. The only real ones are Black Swan, The King's Speech, The Social Network & True Grit. King's Speech will likely win it and most other ones it's up for because it's the most "Oscar-y". Of those I'd hit like on The Social Network although it's the only one I've seen.

While I avoided seeing any bad 2010 movies (worst were Iron Man 2 and Hot Tub Time Machine, both enjoyable enough to get "good" in a bad vs good rating) I didn't see many of the nominees (as per usual). Of the big dogs just Inception & The Social Network, in the movies that are technically nominated Harry Potter & Iron Man 2.

    Originally posted by CRZ
    The post length was fine - if you're gonna post a list, post the whole list and save me some extra clicks having to find it myself.


I disagree, Mirror Orq has it right- this isn't the Library of Congress, give me the Cliff Notes and a link to the full story (I hate it when someone does that without providing the link) and the 2 people who care about achievement in art direction can click and save the other 99% the scrolling.



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#39 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    Black Swan is more of a horror movie than a ballet movie so you might enjoy it more than most wife movie fare.


    Originally posted by lotjx
    The wife thanks you Shapiro, she knew it was a bit crazy, but not a straight horror flick. Still going, but I can now use the "You were warned." speech when she freaks out and she will freak out.


    Originally posted by odessasteps
    one of the reasons I was disappointed with Black Swan is that I was (fooled/misled) by the trailer about the actual horror elements in the picture. (is that vague enough without spoiling things?)


If y'all insist on attaching a genre to Black Swan, then it's really more of a Pi movie.




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#40 Posted on
Black Swan threw me because I was not expecting it to be psychological/thriller-ish. I was expecting a straight story. I liked it but did not love it. I will re-watch it in a few weeks - maybe my opinion will change.

However, both Portman and Kunis were excellent.



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