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#1 Posted on 3.1.04 2133.07
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I just picked up Wrestlecrap: The Book yesterday (along with the Ric Flair DVD!) and was wondering if anyone else had read it. I think it's a pretty good read, even though the gimmicks themselves seem to get less attention as the book goes on. I do think it's well-written and seems to sum up the problems dealing with Vince Russo, Hulk Hogan, etc. pretty well.

My favorite line of the book? A quote from a former WWE employee, about Vince and the "I screwed her brains out" part of the necrophilia angle- "When he came up with that idea, it was all he could talk about. He just kept yelling out the punchline to the skit then laughing uncontrollably. It was very uncomfortable."


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#2 Posted on 3.1.04 2204.21
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I got my copy for Christmas, and I really like it. I missed out on most of the storylines discussed (partly because I'm only 16, partly because I started watching post-WrestleMania 2000, and partly because I avoided WCW), so not only is it entertaining to read about the crap, I also get myself a history lesson. Hooray for me.
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#3 Posted on 3.1.04 2339.58
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It was a decent enough read. For my money, I really wish Baer (whose site I absolutely love) had gone a little more in depth on the thinking behind some of the gimmicks as opposed to the 'can you believe this'? tone.

Also, it wouldn't have killed the publisher to spring for a copy editor.
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#4 Posted on 4.1.04 0443.20
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I thought it was good but there were A LOT funnier things on the website that weren't included in the book.
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#5 Posted on 4.1.04 1546.17
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i find power slam magazine normally has one article dealing with the past or a character's pasta nda re normally good history lessons.

About six months ago they did a biography of Goldust/Dustin Runnels which was fasinating
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#6 Posted on 4.1.04 1803.19
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I really was not impressed by the WrestleCrap book. I don't think I laughed out loud one time, and I didn't learn anything I didn't already know. Add to that the fact that it's full of timeline errors and I'd have to chalk this up as a big disappointment. If you remember the website before it closed down you've seen it all, and you're not missing anything if you don't pick up the book.
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#7 Posted on 4.1.04 1849.13
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I did laugh, but I laughed harder when I saw those gags on the website for the first time. Still, it replaced Neyer's book of Baseball Line-ups on the back of my toilet, which is a compliment.

A few of my criticisms:

The errors that just jumped out. Vince Russo may have had many a brainfart, but Chavo and Pepe was prior to his arrival in WCW.

And a couple of omissions that wouldn't have taken more than a sentence or two, such as Vader splitting his pants when he first powerbombed Hogan or mentioning the fans negative reaction to Malenko/Benoit at Hogg Wild, without mentioning their equally charming reaction to Harlem Heat.

The jumps in the timeline. There was almost a 5-year gap between Who's debut and Battle Kat's but the book makes them seem simultaneous. Stuff like Robocop really didn't belong in a chapter about the NWO.


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#8 Posted on 4.1.04 2019.50
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I enjoyed the WrestleCrap book. But I enjoy the website much better. Still, I thought the book was entertaining, and am looking forward to his and Bryan Alvarez' book on WCW.
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#9 Posted on 4.1.04 2025.55
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I know a lot of people have had this same criticism, but the book also tends to gloss over a lot of things without giving an explanation...for example, what was it about Russo wanting to make Tank Abbott world champion that was so damaging? No mention of how their previous champ was forced into retirement due to Goldberg's sloppiness, or the fact that seven of their top midcarders left the next day with four going to the competition and another suing the company.

A lot of the time I felt like I was reading one of my dimwitted former housemates' poli-sci essays...it was a list of things that happened, but very little of it was proving a point. Hopefully RD's next book with Bryan Alvarez is a little more informative.
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#10 Posted on 4.1.04 2040.46
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    Originally posted by BigVitoMark
    I know a lot of people have had this same criticism, but the book also tends to gloss over a lot of things without giving an explanation...for example, what was it about Russo wanting to make Tank Abbott world champion that was so damaging? No mention of how their previous champ was forced into retirement due to Goldberg's sloppiness, or the fact that seven of their top midcarders left the next day with four going to the competition and another suing the company.

    A lot of the time I felt like I was reading one of my dimwitted former housemates' poli-sci essays...it was a list of things that happened, but very little of it was proving a point. Hopefully RD's next book with Bryan Alvarez is a little more informative.

It DOES say that Tank had "never done a thing in pro wrestling and looked like an out-of-work bum" when talking about reasons why it was damaging, as well as "...fans didn't take him seriously thanks to his role as a groupie for Three Count..."

Plus, since TECHNICALLY it was a book about bad gimmicks and angles in wrestling, I think it was okay to not include wrestlers leaving and another suing WCW. It wasn't a history book on wrestling in that sense.
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#11 Posted on 4.1.04 2055.10
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But Tank's role as a groupie came AFTER Souled Out, where he was planned to win the world title. Another timeline error I guess.
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#12 Posted on 4.1.04 2118.13
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    Originally posted by geemoney
    Plus, since TECHNICALLY it was a book about bad gimmicks and angles in wrestling, I think it was okay to not include wrestlers leaving and another suing WCW. It wasn't a history book on wrestling in that sense.



True, but if you're talking about how WCW died during the Russo period, it's a fairly substantial omission. A two-sentence acknowledgement would have made enough of a point given the context of the book, but to make no mention of how a significant portion of the roster up and left greatly skews the picture and overstates the impact of Russo's ineptness...and really, if you're trying to slam Russo in book form, do you actually need to alter history?
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#13 Posted on 6.1.04 0813.40
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What is the website for wrestlecrap then
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#14 Posted on 6.1.04 0826.05
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www.wrestlecrap.com (wrestlecrap.com)

There used to be the old behemoth version of Wrestlecrap on the web archive, but R.D. asked them to take it down. Basically, everyone should buy it so he can make enough cash to increase the sites bandwidth and get the old entries back up.
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#15 Posted on 6.1.04 1052.23
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    Originally posted by A-MOL
    There used to be the old behemoth version of Wrestlecrap on the web archive, but R.D. asked them to take it down. Basically, everyone should buy it so he can make enough cash to increase the sites bandwidth and get the old entries back up.
I dunno about that - in the past, more than one person has offered RD all the free bandwidth he'd need to keep the old site up, and he's declined every time.
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#16 Posted on 6.1.04 1128.58
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^ Any idea why this is?
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#17 Posted on 6.1.04 1251.57
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    Originally posted by Zoobtro
    ^ Any idea why this is?


My guess is since he is married now he probably does not want to devote that much time to the website. I do know awhile ago he sold some wrestling tapes and he threw in a CD-rom copy of the old website since he cant sell it (copyrighted material). He may do that again in some time down the road.
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#18 Posted on 6.1.04 1456.55
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    Originally posted by Doc_whiskey
      Originally posted by Zoobtro
      ^ Any idea why this is?


    My guess is since he is married now he probably does not want to devote that much time to the website.


He wouldn't have to. He could use the space on offer just to archive the old stuff and use that other guy that joined ages ago (Maddison?), from weird world of wrestling, to do the weekly updates.
It would also stop people moaning at him about where the old stuff was, I'm sure he gets that often enough even if it is in the FAQs.
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