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#1 Posted on 7.10.03 0003.50
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What a football game. I'm glad Indy won, but man, what a crappy way to win it. Vanderjagt misses the unmissable, then a complete bullshit call so he can almost miss AGAIN via tipped ball.

Sheesh. That was crazy. Not to mention the Tom Tupa, "Watch me fall over this player!" first down penalty. And the two onside kicks (how the hell did the Colts lose that second one? They were all over it!). AND the fumbled interception.... just a great and wacky game.


Here's hoping that Julius Peppers and Company send 'em home with a fuckin' rupture next week, though.
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#2 Posted on 7.10.03 0023.13
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That game drove me screeching over the guardrail between Sports Tense and full-bore insane.

First my Giants are eliminated. Then the A's/Sox drive me batty with tension. Then this bullshit ending in overtime in Tampa.

And now I get to spend the next three hours listening to drunk angry Tampa Bay fans street racing along Gandy boulevard, keeping me awake and generally causing all sorts of automotive near-death.


Oh, and Jag, the sig correction doesn't make me feel better. Not now. And anyway, I just sent you the heads up since it seemed you were trying to avoid screw-ups in the language department.

Dammit anyway!
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#3 Posted on 7.10.03 0224.46
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That son of a bitch Manning is the reason I lost my fantasy matchup.
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#4 Posted on 7.10.03 0233.29
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I almost went to bed and I even said to myself, I don't want to miss the greatest comeback ever, so I guess I should stay up, it is Manning after all.

I'm still in awe, and everyone in my football pool was laughing at me for taking Indy. Yeah, i was 2 games out of first going into the game tonight(this weeks winner got $148 on a $5 buy-in), so the game is meaningless until the end of season winning percentages come out(first place gets 60%, second gets 30%, last gets 10% of the $1 skimmed from the $5 from each person, each week), but damn I feel vinidicated.
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#5 Posted on 7.10.03 0308.14
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Marvin Harrison has got to be considered one of the most underrated players in the history of sports. Week in, week out, season in, season out, the man puts up insane numbers, and he doesn't give a shit who the opponent is.

All the while I'm hearing "T.O." this and "Randy Moss" that. Fuck Terrell Owens and fuck Randy Moss. They are Harrison's bitches.

And FUCK Keyshawn Johnson for talking shit on Harrison while the Bucs were up in the first half.

11 catches, 176 yards, 2 TDs. FUCK the TB defense.
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#6 Posted on 7.10.03 0441.51
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    Originally posted by rikidozan


But hey, anybody who beats Tampa Bay is all right with this Packer fan. :-)
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#7 Posted on 7.10.03 0611.28
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    Originally posted by The Thrill
      Originally posted by rikidozan


    But hey, anybody who beats Tampa Bay is all right with this Packer fan. :-)

as Madden pointed out, no team with 4 mins remaining and down by 21 has ever come back to win.

That game went from a crushing, dissappointing, blowout to a drama filled "OH NO THEY DIDN'T!!!" comeback.

TD, Onside kick, TD, Failed onside, 3-out by Tampa, no time outs left, TWO 2 min warnings!!!!! help stop the clock, and on 4th down, a long pass for yet, ANOTHER TD. Indy scored 28 in the forth, and all 35 in the 2nd half.

and don't get me started on that OT...I was on the edge of my seat, so to speak.

and yes, Reich vs the Oilers is up there too but at least i saw this game, and only got highlights of the Reich comeback.

ODD week 5 observations
NFC EAST: Dominating like the 80s? no team is under .500
NFC NORTH: Minnesota (pro and college) is back, so the Pac have some competition for that Div title
NFC SOUTH: Carolina 4-0, Tampa Bay: 2-2, Me am enter bizzaro world?
NFC WEST: Arizona is only 2 games back from 1st place, but they're still in the cellar.

AFC EAST: Miami has a 1/2 game lead on NE and Buffalo, and the Jets the skins didn't want are winless.
AFC NORTH: Sluming it yet again. No team is over .500
AFC SOUTH: Houston has 2 wins? with 12 games left to play? they're on pace to go 8-8
AFC WEST: Looks like Marty ball is a dud, yet again, and it's like the NFC NORTH, a 2 team race between KC and DENVER for the div title.
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#8 Posted on 7.10.03 0651.59
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    Originally posted by rikidozan

    I'm still in awe,...

as am I that I saw Hulk Hogan in the stands and on my TV screen during an early part of the game.......

went to sleep at 21-0 and almost fell off the NordicTrack when I saw the final early this

BS Call on Rice but so was the non-call clip in the KC-Denver game but you have to live with the calls and play the next game
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#9 Posted on 7.10.03 0703.26
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I agree the call was BS but it wasn't the first time it has cost Gruden a game, his first year coaching in oakland the Umpire made the same call on C. Woodson on a missed field goal at the end of the game. The other team lined it up again and hit it. I can't remember who it was against but that was the first thing I thought of when I saw the highlight this morning.
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#10 Posted on 7.10.03 0849.29
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    Originally posted by dunkndollaz
    BS Call on Rice but so was the non-call clip in the KC-Denver game but you have to live with the calls and play the next game

Nope -- it's not the call that's BS, it's the rule. The rule says that if you line up more than a yard behind the line of scrimmage, you can't leap and land on another player. Perfectly good ruling. Crappy rule.
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#11 Posted on 7.10.03 0902.51
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Yet another example of a John Gruden coached team unable to properly run out the clock. Getting the ball at midfield with less than 2:30 to go and Indy having only 1 timeout and you have to kick the ball at the 2 minute warning. Shades of the Tuck Rule game, as the Tuck Rule never occurs if Oakland had properly managed the clock late.
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#12 Posted on 7.10.03 0950.36
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One argument that hasn't yet been made here but has else where:
"It shouldn't have come down to that. They shouldn't have let the Colts come back."
What the fuck? OK, they let the Colts come back in embarassing fashion. But that doesn't mean it's OK for the game to be decided by a bullshit call/rule.

The concept has a cousin in the sports that play series: "Sure they lost, say, Game 6 by a bad call. But htey still could have won Game 7."
It still makes no sense. At least when teams blow big leads or choke in big games, it's the players deciding the game and not some crappy rule book. And the guy who reffed this game always seems to head a crew that is flag-happy anyway.

(edited by TheBucsFan on 7.10.03 1051)
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#13 Posted on 7.10.03 0952.39
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I agree, BucsFan, the calls at the end there were total crap, but there's no way our boys should have blown a lead like that. Teams like the Giants do that, not our Bucs.

But we'll get over it. Washington? DEAD next week. D-E-A-D.
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#14 Posted on 7.10.03 1053.21
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I can't believe I went to bed with a little more than 4 minutes left. I saw Indy's big kick return, assumed they might get some consolation points at the end and that'd be that.

The last thing I said to my roommate was something along the lines of, "when Tampa's defense is playing like that you can't beat them; look at the speed! Look at the pursuit!" Tampa has the most amazing defense I've ever seen. Evidently, however, it still has weaknesses. Yeah, if there hadn't been injuries, they might have done better, but to be fair, if Indy had Edgerrin James in the lineup their game would have been different too.

    Originally posted by TheBucsFan

    At least when teams blow big leads or choke in big games, it's the players deciding the game and not some crappy rule book. And the guy who reffed this game always seems to head a crew that is flag-happy anyway.

Without that "crappy" rulebook, there are no rules. Without rules and refs to enforce them, there is no game. Anyone taking notes in the first half would certainly have seen Indy taking a lot of penalties; obviously the refs weren't afraid to call them. As long as the refs are consistent and call both ways, that's all you can ask. That goes for any sport.

Refs don't gain yards, score points, or make tackles. Neither does the rulebook. The Bucs blew it bigtime. Next week is a huge game for Tampa Bay; they either bounce back like a wounded animal or they roll over and play dead.

By way of prediction of which it is, I will say that I wouldn't want to be Patrick Ramsay next Sunday...
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#15 Posted on 7.10.03 1912.06
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Well, things just got a little harder.

Bucs' Alstott out for season with neck injury

TAMPA -- The Buccaneers placed Mike Alstott on the injured reserve list today, with ESPN's John Clayton reporting that the move will end the fullback's season.

Alstott agravated a neck injury in the Buccaneers' 38-35 overtime loss to the Indianapolis Colts.

Alstott started Monday night's game against the Colts, despite sitting out two days of practice to undergo tests last week. The six-time Pro Bowl fullback rushed for 1 yard on three carries and had two receptions for 25 yards before leaving in the second half.

"We will continue feverishly to try to find the specific nature of why this problem persists," Bucs coach Jon Gruden said Saturday.

While I believe this ultimately will make Pittman a better back... it KILLS us in the short-term. McKay needs to work the waiver wire and find a blocker FAST.

I think we're gonna see a lot more of Sapp on the offensive side of things...
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#16 Posted on 7.10.03 1944.16
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Thanks to Marvin Harrison and David Boston, this has been my best fantasy week ever. Yeah, the call was horrible, but if that Bucs D was so freaking great, they wouldnt have allowed 3 TDs in under 4 minutes. I wish the refs would put some common sense into their calls. Simeon Rice leaps forward, so he has to land on something in front of him. And to top it all off, the guy that Simeon "leaped" on was pushed in that spot. Simeon jumped that high on his own, he didnt use leverage. Jeez.
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#17 Posted on 7.10.03 2012.25
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I just want to know how Rich McKay got the Chargers' defense to Tampa so quickly. Absolutely horrible.

Too bad about Alstott. He's a decent power runner and short-yardage guy, and I think the Bucs will miss him more than they know.
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#18 Posted on 7.10.03 2024.43
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I went to bed in the 3rd Qtr. Boston had just won, I flipped over and Tampa went up 21 and I figured that there was no way the Colts could score 4 times in that much time against the Bucs D. To find out they did even BETTER as I watched SportsCenter this morning was astounding.

It woke me up enough to finish tabulating scores for my league and getting the results out at least.
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#19 Posted on 8.10.03 0038.47
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That was a great game.....well actually just a great 4+ minutes. I'm not a Peyton Manning fan but I give give props for not just giving up when they were down.

Let's just hope they lose to Carolina next week :)
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#20 Posted on 8.10.03 0048.33
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That call wasn't too bad considering they broke the rule according the rulebook. The rule might be stupid, but the call was not. And for those who thought it was a horrible call, it then negates the ridiculous roughing the kicker call when Tom "Poopa" Tupa trips and falls which apparently is clipping the kicker with malicious intent.
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