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Zeruel
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#1 Posted on 7.10.04 0518.30
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13174-2004Oct6.html (Reg Required)

From the article:

People soon will be able to carry guns and other dangerous weapons onto the grounds and parking lots of Reagan National and Dulles International airports, after officials yesterday eased what they said were overly restrictive rules.

Without debate, the board of the Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority unanimously agreed to permit passengers and other airport visitors to carry guns, knives and other weapons as long as they keep them out of terminals and other buildings that access airfields. Passengers who are taking guns with them on flights still will be allowed to carry them into the terminal but are supposed to make arrangements with airlines in advance, officials said.

The action comes after pressure from an increasingly high-profile Virginia gun rights group whose members have taken to wearing firearms on their hips in public places to make their case.

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Airport officials said they made the changes, which will take effect Dec. 1, because the rules did not enhance security and because they unfairly affected gun owners who might unknowingly break the law.

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Virginia requires permits for people to carry concealed weapons, but openly displayed guns are allowed.

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"The point is, terrorists will not pay any attention to this," he said [Philip Van Cleave, president of the Virginia Citizens' Defense League]. "What it will do is stop the people who don't want to break the law."

Airport security experts said the new law doesn't worry them. Douglas R. Baird, an aviation security consultant, said, "It doesn't raise any concerns with me because if you have the authority of the state to be armed, I don't see why you can't be armed at an airport."
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I am just shocked that ANY non-Air Marshal can carry ANY firearms on a flight, period.

It's SOOOOOO nice to know that a gun group has pressured TWO airports near the DC to allow firearms on flights.

They are more worried of accidently arresting people over firearms violations than allowing FIREARMS ON AIRPLANES.

I hope there are plans to put more air marshals into the skies, because just because 10 passengers with guns look unrelated on paper, doesn't mean they couldn't try to take over a plane.

I hope I'm getting so worked up over this because lack of sleep (6AM my time) and not because I haven't read this article carefully.
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#2 Posted on 7.10.04 0528.19
Reposted on: 7.10.11 0528.47
    Originally posted by Zeruel

    Without debate, the board of the Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority unanimously agreed to permit passengers and other airport visitors to carry guns, knives and other weapons as long as they keep them out of terminals and other buildings that access airfields. Passengers who are taking guns with them on flights still will be allowed to carry them into the terminal but are supposed to make arrangements with airlines in advance, officials said.

    I am just shocked that ANY non-Air Marshal can carry ANY firearms on a flight, period.


REad it again. Nobody's taking their guns on planes. You have to have a special shipping container and the ammunition must be in a seperate container and you don't carry it on, it's in baggage.

Do you believe hunters, sport-target shooter, or police officers shouldn't fly?

Oh - and it's basically the same rules as BEFORE 911. But at some airports, you can't carry a weapon ON the grounds, even if you have a permit to carry, even if you're an off duty policeman, unless you make special arrangements with the airport.

Why do the several states issue permits for guns anyway? Because those guys and girls are SAFE.

Nobody is getting on Delta with a Glock, for goodness sake, unless he or she is an airmarshall.
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#3 Posted on 7.10.04 0535.45
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#4 Posted on 7.10.04 0535.45
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    Originally posted by AWArulz
    Why do the several states issue permits for guns anyway? Because those guys and girls are SAFE.


I'll re-read it after a good morning's sleep, but in VA, you don't need a permit to carry a gun. All one has to do is openly display it.

    Originally posted by Washington Post
    Virginia requires permits for people to carry concealed weapons, but openly displayed guns are allowed.


BUT...

    Originally posted by Washington Post
    Airport authority officials said they do not have to abide by Virginia law because of a long-standing compact between Virginia and the District, which left the authority with the right to adopt its own regulations that have the force of law.


So it appears to be that the Airport authority is just trying to make their regulations the same as VA's.

Now, on Dec 1st, any person openly displaying a firearm may walk into the airport terminals of Dulles and National without the fear of being arrested. Great.

(edited by Zeruel on 7.10.04 0637)

Hmmm, somehow I double posted, previous post was a double post and was deleted.

(edited by Zeruel on 7.10.04 0638)

WTTG-FOX 5 is now saying that NO ONE but people with prior arrangments may bring firearms into terminals. I feel a little better hearing that.

(edited by Zeruel on 7.10.04 0711)
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#5 Posted on 7.10.04 0618.20
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I'd feel better if everybody carried openly...and I mean EVERYBODY.
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#6 Posted on 7.10.04 1039.15
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    Originally posted by Grimis
    I'd feel better if everybody carried openly...and I mean EVERYBODY.

In my perfect world, there would be no private ownership of guns. Period.

However, as demonstrated by the fact that the White Sox aren't in the playoffs and I am not in fact spending my days making sweet love to Shakira, this is not my perfect world, so I tend to agree with Grimis. I feel the same way abotu guns as I do about nuclear weaponry. I'd rather no one had them. But since someone else has them, I feel like I want to protect myself as well.

That said, I am glad that they aren't allowed on planes. Not because I worry about terror attacks, but more the random idiot who goes insane and shoots out a window and screws everyone over.
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