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#1 Posted on 8.9.11 0944.29
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The acting is great across the board - especially Nick Nolte as the 1000 day sober alcoholic wrestling coach Dad of Hardy and Edgerton.

The problem that I have with the film is that the plot is filled with impossibilities (and some things that are merely improbable)

And that makes it hard to swallow the MMA things that are merely implausible.

Aren't MMA fighters finger-printed by State Athletic Boards?


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If a fighter separates his shoulder doesn't the fight end there?
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#2 Posted on 8.9.11 1323.21
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If the movie were more accurate would it have been as exciting?
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#3 Posted on 8.9.11 1341.17
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Yeah, I mean, movies never show guns accurately either. Not ragging on you, Llakor, because there's nothing worse than when a movie inaccuracy breaks your suspension of disbelief. But if you're an expert on something, you can probably expect to see it depicted wrong.
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#4 Posted on 8.9.11 1409.47
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    Originally posted by Llakor
    The acting is great across the board - especially Nick Nolte as the 1000 day sober alcoholic wrestling coach Dad of Hardy and Edgerton.

    The problem that I have with the film is that the plot is filled with impossibilities (and some things that are merely improbable)

    And that makes it hard to swallow the MMA things that are merely implausible.

    Aren't MMA fighters finger-printed by State Athletic Boards?


    Spoiler Below: Highlight text to read
    If a fighter separates his shoulder doesn't the fight end there?



A simple thing like that didn't stop Daniel-San. Granted, his shin was shattered, but, you get the jist.
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#5 Posted on 9.9.11 0748.07
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Caught a free preview screening last night. I had seen some previews for this but was not overly interested in seeing it, but for free I will pretty much see anything.

That being said I was happily surprised with this film. It was a really good movie. The acting was very well done from the entire cast with Nick Nolte stealing the show. He deserves some kind of award recognition for this.

The fight scenes were well done, the stories were well told, and moved along at a good pace. The best part overall is the finale where you are just not sure what is going to happen.

I highly recommend this film to anybody, even people who are not into MMA the story will keep you interested.
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#6 Posted on 9.9.11 0751.29
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It's basically every clich├ęd sports movie ever made, but made with class and quality on the part of everyone involved. Not an all-time classic, but GREAT entertainment.
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#7 Posted on 9.9.11 0921.51
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    Originally posted by Mr. Boffo
    Yeah, I mean, movies never show guns accurately either. Not ragging on you, Llakor, because there's nothing worse than when a movie inaccuracy breaks your suspension of disbelief. But if you're an expert on something, you can probably expect to see it depicted wrong.


I guess except that the film gets so much wrong that it starts to get distracting. And the fights are shot so badly that its annoying. I like Ebert's line "Although the fighters must duck and weave, why must the camera?"

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110907/REVIEWS/110909991

I suspect that the more you know about MMA, the less that you will like the film.

For a more complete breakdown of why I disliked it, this is my "more than full" review:
http://www.soundonsight.org/warrior-betrays-its-great-cast-and-set-up-in-the-final-rounds/
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#8 Posted on 9.9.11 0925.17
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Which is funny, since I was led to believe Meltzer liked it.

Of course, they also appear to have ads on the observer site....
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#9 Posted on 9.9.11 1016.28
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    Originally posted by odessasteps
    Which is funny, since I was led to believe Meltzer liked it.
That's not quite what he posted on the Observer boards.


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Saw it a week ago. First 2/3 is real good. Last third some will like, but I had qualms with it. (...) Really good until the end. The audience did not leave thinking MMA was a sport, and the guys who wrote the movie clearly were big MMA fans. I've talked to a lot of major people in MMA about it, they saw it themselves and not in a theater and had a different reaction to a degree, but we were in agreement the portrayal of MMA was as freak show savagery and not sport, both the fight content and how the announcers called the matches. (...) And it worked against the movie. In the theater, mostly teenagers, they were thinking MMA was the coolest thing in the world halfway into the movie. When it was over, everyone was quiet and had this blank look on their face and they thought MMA was like dog fighting.


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#10 Posted on 9.9.11 1028.26
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All due respect to Meltzer et cetera, it's not up to the filmmakers to portray MMA as those within the industry wish it to be portrayed.

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#11 Posted on 9.9.11 1236.06
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    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    All due respect to Meltzer et cetera, it's not up to the filmmakers to portray MMA as those within the industry wish it to be portrayed.

    (edited by Amos Cochran on 9.9.11 1028)


Well, no, but Meltzer does have a point that the things which (some) movie viewers object to are things that WOULD NEVER HAPPEN in a sanctioned MMA event.


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Someone separating their shoulder yes. Someone fighting two rounds AFTER separating their shoulder no.
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#12 Posted on 10.9.11 1807.00
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I thought Warrior was pretty fucking awesome.

Warrior Review with SPOILERS (backofthehead.com)
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#13 Posted on 11.9.11 1946.34
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    Originally posted by Llakor
      Originally posted by Amos Cochran
      All due respect to Meltzer et cetera, it's not up to the filmmakers to portray MMA as those within the industry wish it to be portrayed.

      (edited by Amos Cochran on 9.9.11 1028)


    Well, no, but Meltzer does have a point that the things which (some) movie viewers object to are things that WOULD NEVER HAPPEN in a sanctioned MMA event.

UFC was never human cockfighting, as John McCain famously said so long ago, but it was pretty fucking ridiculous back in the day. Guys fighting with one glove, one night tournaments...I mean really, it was a Van Damme movie. Even today, people get 70K bonuses for "knockout of the night", so obviously this is a business model that goes out of its way to reward violence. If you took Dana White's word for it you'd almost think it didn't involve punching kicking kneeing and elbowing in the head and face, choking people, and compromising joints to their pathological limits. Doubtless it requires skill, but it is brutal violence for the entertainment of bloodthirsty fans.



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#14 Posted on 12.9.11 1134.43
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Yeesh. Warrior only pulled in $5.6 million. (boxofficemojo.com) Warrior deserved better than that. People generally skipped going to the movies this weekend, except to see Contagion.
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