#2 Posted on 14.10.03 1616.58 Reposted on: 14.10.10 1617.10
One thing is for sure, I'm semi-interested in going to one of these web sites out of sheer curiosity (you know, the whole car-wreck syndrome), but would be way too afraid to, what with Big Brother and all.
I suppose that's a good thing... in a way. Hmmmmm.
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#3 Posted on 14.10.03 1742.52 Reposted on: 14.10.10 1742.55
I went to the kahane.org website (Big Brother - come 'n git me!) and found the following:
Originally posted by kaahne.orgKahane.org responds to State Department
"They have come with chariots and horses we come in the name of G-d… - they have fallen, but we arose…" (Psalms 20)
The recent designation of Kahane.org and other Kahane sites as Foreign Terrorist organizations by the U.S. State Department is another one-sided, anti-Jewish, decree passed by the blatantly anti-Israel State Dept.
This recent designation will definitely go down in history as one of the most irrational and obscene decisions ever carried out by the U.S. government.
How does a website become a terrorist or a Foreign Terrorist Organization? Is it the fonts or html format that makes the anti-Semites in the State Department dizzy? Is it the Jewish star or the fist that symbolizes Jewish resistance to modern day Nazis that upsets our friends in the State Department? There never was any legal justification to place the Kahane groups known as Kach and Kahane Chai on the terrorist list of the State Department. They never engaged in terror!!!
Now, the websites that espouse the Kahane ideology that is firmly based in Torah is declared terrorist. Bombs and grenades are terrorism. Pencils, html and Torah- Bible are views and ideas!!!
It seems that our words of truth scare them more than bombs and real terror. After all, Hamas, Hizbullah and Alkeada's websites are not on the State Department list of terrorist organizations. How sick and bizarre is that? Louis Farrakhan and hundreds of other white and black Nazi groups are not outlawed and their sites are not labeled terrorist, inspite of their terrorist words and actions. Yet Kahane.org a vehicle of Torah ideas that never engaged in anything more than expressing views based on Torah is on the list.
Where is the outcry of the civil rights activists when it is Jewish religious and political rights being violated?
Where is Alan Dershowitz? Where is the ACLU? Where is the Anti Defamation League and all of the other so called Jewish organizations that supposedly champion Jewish rights, when the only voice of sanity that can save Israel and Jews from anti-Semitism and destruction is banned and attacked.
Where are the Rabbis? Where are the Jews to stand up and speak out against this blatant act of anti-Semitism being carried out by the U.S. Government?
The State Department wishes to silence the last voice of legitimate and legal opposition to the Road Map and the U.S. "peace" initiatives in the Middle East. The Roadmap will lead millions of Jews into another Aushwitz scenario and we have a right and an obligation to warn the Jewish nation about the dangers confronting Israel!!
There is nothing the State Department can do that will stop us from speaking out to save Israel. There is no power in the world that can silence the Jewish idea and the Torah. The Greeks, Romans, British, Russians, Persians and so many others tried to make decrees against Judaism and challenged the G-d of Israel and the Jewish right to Eretz Israel. Where are they all today? The tiny Jewish nation and the minority of Jews who resisted spiritual and physical annihilation has outlived them all.
The United States are at a critical crossroads and they have two options: To bless Israel or to curse Israel. Blessing Israel means supporting the G-d given right for Jews to settle anywhere in the Land of Eretz Israel, and supporting Israel's right to drive out her hostile enemies. Blessing Israel means supporting Kahane! Those who bless Israel shall be blessed and those who curse Israel shall be doomed. (Genesis, Chapter 12, verse 3)
There is no force in the world that will succeed in uprooting the Jews from Eretz Israel or from any portion of the land. We shall overcome!! The Jewish people are indestructible and the eternity of the nation of Israel is not a lie! The State Department had the stupidity and the audacity to explain the obscene terror label and define the "dangerous" Kahane Chai group - "The stated goal of the group is the restoration of the Biblical borders of Israel".
It would be wise for the U.S. government to reverse this decision and to open up a channel of communications with representatives of the Kahane ideology. Ultimately, it is these ideas that will govern the land of Israel. Israel will survive, eventually destroy her enemies, and restore her Biblical borders. The glorious days of redemption will arrive and the Holy Temple will be rebuilt on the Temple Mount, in spite of what the Arabs and the rest of the world might have in mind. Moshiach will reveal himself and the true friends of Israel will be rewarded. This is the cornerstone of the Jewish faith.
I urge all of those people who believe in free speech and in Judaism to speak out against this injustice. Email to firstname.lastname@example.org With the subject: Take Kahane.org off of terror list.
We will update you regarding progress and will hopefully submit 100,000 names of people who stand with us and who join in the protest against the designation of Kahane.org as a terrorist organization. Let us not be scared to speak out on behalf of justice and on behalf of Israel. Don't let them silence the last voice of truth that can save Israel from destruction.
#4 Posted on 14.10.03 2229.01 Reposted on: 14.10.10 2229.01
Kahane won't get three Jews to sign that petition (unfortunately, they might get 100,000 fundamentalist Christians to sign). We all know they're nutcases - as is evidenced by them asking Where is Alan Dershowitz? Where is the ACLU? Where is the Anti Defamation League and all of the other so called Jewish organizations that supposedly champion Jewish rights. Where are the Rabbis? Where are the Jews to stand up and speak out against this blatant act of anti-Semitism being carried out by the U.S. Government? Israel's government has actually outlawed the Kach party and its various aliases (they were always much more popular in Brooklyn anyway).
In fact "terrorist" is a very accurate label for them, if one uses the common definition of "terrorism" as the deliberate targeting of civilians. They - just like the Arab terrorists - of course hide behind the cowardly excuse that living where they would like you not to live automatically makes you a combatant.
They do make on good point though After all, Hamas, Hizbullah and Alkeada's websites are not on the State Department list of terrorist organizations. How sick and bizarre is that?
Does anyone know if this this true? It's not in the article.