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The 7 - Random - Two Towers Extended DVD Bulls#!t
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#1 Posted on 18.11.03 1430.26
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So I'm online today trying to decide where I'm going to order this baby (box set including Gollem statue...yes!!!) and apparently the US Region 1 release has 40 minutes of extra footage edited into the film whereas we Europeans get 30 minutes extra on the Region 2 version. WHAT THE HELL??!! And the point of this is?
I'm already forking over mucho cash for this so needless to say this is a little upsetting. Not that I have a problem getting the US version, I just don't see the point. Maybe it's all just a typo, so can someone maybe confirm this info for me who has already gotten one today?
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#2 Posted on 18.11.03 1453.04
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    Originally posted by acrid 2.0
    So I'm online today trying to decide where I'm going to order this baby (box set including Gollem statue...yes!!!) and apparently the US Region 1 release has 40 minutes of extra footage edited into the film whereas we Europeans get 30 minutes extra on the Region 2 version. WHAT THE HELL??!!


Are you sure there's not some metric conversion where our 40 minutes equals your 30?
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#3 Posted on 18.11.03 1609.51
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    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
      Originally posted by acrid 2.0
      So I'm online today trying to decide where I'm going to order this baby (box set including Gollem statue...yes!!!) and apparently the US Region 1 release has 40 minutes of extra footage edited into the film whereas we Europeans get 30 minutes extra on the Region 2 version. WHAT THE HELL??!!


    Are you sure there's not some metric conversion where our 40 minutes equals your 30?


*Laughs* Brilliant!

Well, at least Acrid you can take pleasure in the fact that Region 2 gets the uncut version of Eyes Wide Shut... ... Albeit, I certainly wouldn't trade that for an extra 10 minutes on LOTR, but... it's something.
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#4 Posted on 19.11.03 0015.46
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    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
      Originally posted by acrid 2.0
      So I'm online today trying to decide where I'm going to order this baby (box set including Gollem statue...yes!!!) and apparently the US Region 1 release has 40 minutes of extra footage edited into the film whereas we Europeans get 30 minutes extra on the Region 2 version. WHAT THE HELL??!!


    Are you sure there's not some metric conversion where our 40 minutes equals your 30?


Actualy, that is the case.

When you transfer from NTSC to PAL, because of the difference in frame-rates, you lose some time, even though you get the same stuff.

from http://www.imdb.com/help/show_article?runningtime

Why is the USA running time listed for a film sometimes different from the running time listed for another country and/or for the video?
A typical feature film is shot and projected at 24 frames per second. The two main video standards in the US (NTSC) and in Europe (PAL) use different frame rates (29.97 frames per second vs. 25 frames per second), which usually means that the film has to be sped up when transferred to video to avoid image synchronization problems. In the case of a PAL transfer, this acceleration results in a 4% decrease in the film's total running time. In other words, the European VHS tape or DVD of a 100-minutes theatrical release will only be 96 minutes long. Other changes in running time may be caused by cuts or alterations imposed by local censorship rules or other minor changes between different releases of the film (such as shorter/longer end titles, distributor's logos, copyright notices and various supplemental material). Whenever available, detailed information about the various versions of a film is listed in the Alternative Versions section of the database.

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#5 Posted on 19.11.03 0100.44
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Geez I do so much movie editing I should have thought of that (I'm such a wiener).
Still, the frame rate solution can't justify 10 minutes can it?
What I mean is, they solicit the film in the US as having "40 minutes" of extra footage and in Europe only "30 minutes". The change in frame rate could never equal 25% less time (in this case), right?
*sigh*
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#6 Posted on 19.11.03 0107.24
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    Originally posted by acrid 2.0
    Geez I do so much movie editing I should have thought of that (I'm such a wiener).
    Still, the frame rate solution can't justify 10 minutes can it?
    What I mean is, they solicit the film in the US as having "40 minutes" of extra footage and in Europe only "30 minutes". The change in frame rate could never equal 25% less time (in this case), right?
    *sigh*


Some scenes may have been cut/edited due to local laws or to get the right raiting in your country.

I look at a lot of movies in the imdb.com database and many in europe have been edited due to blood/gore that won't secure something equal to our PG-13 (movies for 13 and up)

Also, there might be such a big difference in time because they're taking the difference from total run time, I dunno, just a thought...

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#7 Posted on 19.11.03 1432.06
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Maybe the 10 extra minutes of footage in the US version can already be found on the previous Two Towers European release?
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