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scabby
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#1 Posted on 25.4.03 1930.49
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I live in Toronto. In the past month, I have visited the airport, numerous malls, attended a baseball game, watched a number of hockey games in crowded bars, and I work at a place that attracts a large crowd every day.

Guess what? I don't have SARS. I do not fear contracting SARS. I wouldn't dream of wearing a surgical or dust mask and I'm tired of the paranoia surrounding this disease.

Put in perspective, in a city of around 5 million people (more if you count the suburbs surrounding the city) there have been 16 SARS deaths, the majority of them people with immune system problems. The ages of the dead, with (I think) two exceptions have been 70 years or above. Yet every day when i ride the subway, I see people wearing masks and looking at me like I just pulled a gun on them when I cough.

More people have died during serious flu outbreaks in the past, yet this disease has people out of their skulls with fear. The WHO has issued a travel warning to Toronto that may cost me my job, as the place where I work depends heavily on tourists and our business is going to suffer tremendously. A baseball player (who I think we all can agree are generally wusses anyways) is trying to get an entire series moved out of Toronto so he doesn't have to come here.

Everyone needs to chill out. This is been blown so far out of proportion it's scary. I dread mosquito season when West Nile virus takes over the headlines. Nobody is ever going to leave their house.

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#2 Posted on 25.4.03 2027.32
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    Originally posted by scabby
    attended a baseball game, quoteend]








    To be fair, I thought people went to Blue Jays games because it was the least likely place to catch SARS, as there is no crowd at Skydome.
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#3 Posted on 26.4.03 0132.35
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Remember when Toronto called in the military that winter cause they had a really bad snowstorm?

Good times...
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#4 Posted on 26.4.03 0208.55
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SARRRRRRSSSSS... SARRRRRRSSSSS...

*wanders around chasing people*
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#5 Posted on 26.4.03 1006.26
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The phrase I heard on the radio yesterday was that the world thinks every Torontonian is "soaking wet in SARS goo."

Which isn't the case. Scabby's right, it's overhyped. People are living their normal lives. We just have more elbow room now, with the lack of tourists.
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#6 Posted on 26.4.03 1008.43
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I think the reason for the scare is the fact that they still aren't quite sure what casues this, and they still aren't 100% sure what the best way to treat it is. A lack of knowledge is the biggest cause of panic in things like this.
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#7 Posted on 26.4.03 1354.44
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They do this every year, no matter if it's SARS, or West Nile Virus, or Anthrax, or killer bees or shark attacks. The news media creates a panic over little more than nothing and watches their ratings skyrocket. It's like the "rash of child abductions" last summer, where the actual *rate* of child abductions was the lowest in a decade.

It's pretty much like Stephen Colbert said on The Daily Show: If you're an elderly woman with a respritory problem, this may not be the week to travel to Toronto and lick doorknobs.
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#8 Posted on 26.4.03 1621.38
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That is so true - I've been living in NYC since West Nile appeared, and they NEVER have mentioned in the news that only the elderly, the very young, and the already ill that have died from the virus.

Why people love to scare themselves silly, I do not know.
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#9 Posted on 26.4.03 1900.03
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I know you guys are joking about this, but this disease is causing big problems.

The ALA (American Library Association) was going to have their big convention in Toronto. With the WHO warning, along with the fact that roughly 10 percent of people who contract SARS DIE from this disease, they are probably going to cancel this convention. This will cost 10's of millions of dollars for the ALA, and it screws my dad in the process. (He was going to run one of the many booths during the convention.)

I wouldn't want to go anywhere near Toronto or China until people can give us more information about how to contain and treat the illness.

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#10 Posted on 27.4.03 0022.53
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    Originally posted by Torchslasher
    The ALA (American Library Association) was going to have their big convention in Toronto.


this may seem like an odd question, but why doesn't the ALA have their convention in America?

seems odd to me they'd go to canada in the first place...

sorry about your dad though. i used to help run conventions for APS (American Psychological Society, "sister" Association to APA (American Psychological Assoiation), but i think APS changed to Association of Psychological Science...they were talking about the name change when i left in 2000)) and they are planned sometimes years in advance and can't be changed at the last minute.
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#11 Posted on 28.4.03 1236.17
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    Originally posted by Torchslasher
    I know you guys are joking about this, but this disease is causing big problems.

    The ALA (American Library Association) was going to have their big convention in Toronto. With the WHO warning, along with the fact that roughly 10 percent of people who contract SARS DIE from this disease, they are probably going to cancel this convention. This will cost 10's of millions of dollars for the ALA, and it screws my dad in the process. (He was going to run one of the many booths during the convention.)

    I wouldn't want to go anywhere near Toronto or China until people can give us more information about how to contain and treat the illness.




See, this is what scabby is talking about. There is no reason for the ALA to cancel the convention.

There is no reason for MLB players not to come here, etc...

If the ALA wants to cancel the convention fine, but I have no sympathy for them losing $$$. The people of Toronto who are losing money I feel for.

Here a few stories worth looking at:

Click Here (canada.com)

Click Here (canada.com)

(edited by haz on 28.4.03 1336)
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#12 Posted on 28.4.03 1459.04
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    Originally posted by haz
      Originally posted by Torchslasher
      I know you guys are joking about this, but this disease is causing big problems.

      The ALA (American Library Association) was going to have their big convention in Toronto. With the WHO warning, along with the fact that roughly 10 percent of people who contract SARS DIE from this disease, they are probably going to cancel this convention. This will cost 10's of millions of dollars for the ALA, and it screws my dad in the process. (He was going to run one of the many booths during the convention.)

      I wouldn't want to go anywhere near Toronto or China until people can give us more information about how to contain and treat the illness.




    See, this is what scabby is talking about. There is no reason for the ALA to cancel the convention.

    There is no reason for MLB players not to come here, etc...

    If the ALA wants to cancel the convention fine, but I have no sympathy for them losing $$$. The people of Toronto who are losing money I feel for.

    Here a few stories worth looking at:

    Click Here (canada.com)

    Click Here (canada.com)

    (edited by haz on 28.4.03 1336)








Just remember, the Center for Disease Control in the United States has said Toronto has only a small amount of SARS cases, thus should not have a travel ban warning placed on it. Its the World Health Organization, which is a part of the United Nations, that imposed this travel warning. The United Nations: If we can't screw up a country in 24 hours, you'll get your money back.
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#13 Posted on 29.4.03 0155.12
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Might be an overreaction, hell it probably is. But best way to ease the fright in not having a couple of people drop dead over couple of days from SARS, even if they are geezers.

I get so tired when I see politicians worry more about tourism dollars then actual crisis that's going on
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#14 Posted on 29.4.03 1341.17
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We're all clean now. Please come and visit?

We even have a good deal for you.
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#15 Posted on 29.4.03 1621.34
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I work for Famous Players [the single largest Canadian movie theatre chain], and head office [IN TORONTO] has barraged us with pointless memos with new regulations preaching common sense. Wash your hands? REALLY??? I thought we weren't allowed!!

Ah hell. At least this means more people will flock West for the Calgary Exhibition & Stampede [July 4 to 13, 2003].
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#16 Posted on 29.4.03 1728.28
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    this may seem like an odd question, but why doesn't the ALA have their convention in America?

    seems odd to me they'd go to canada in the first place...



Because we're better.

The Blue Jays are selling tickets for tonight's game with Texas for $1 each, and (as you would guess) it's a sellout. The team is taking a $700,000 hit to prove that the city is safe. Of course, if even ONE person at that game ends up coming down with the disease, it could end up being the Jays playing in Puerto Rico.

Also, Mel Lastman. What a tool. I half expect him to come on TV and say "Who gets SARS in Toronto? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBODY!"
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#17 Posted on 3.5.03 1603.32
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    Originally posted by Torchslasher
    I know you guys are joking about this, but this disease is causing big problems.

    The ALA (American Library Association) was going to have their big convention in Toronto. With the WHO warning, along with the fact that roughly 10 percent of people who contract SARS DIE from this disease, they are probably going to cancel this convention. This will cost 10's of millions of dollars for the ALA, and it screws my dad in the process. (He was going to run one of the many booths during the convention.)

    I wouldn't want to go anywhere near Toronto or China until people can give us more information about how to contain and treat the illness.




Paranoid are we??

It was never that bad to begin with. WHO made a huge mistake, and the city of Toronto is paying for it dearly.

Over 5 million people live in and around Toronto, and 21 people have died. The people who have died were those already with respitory problems and were all over the age of 65!!! (with the exception of one)

With no new cases reported in close to 20 days or something, there is no reason not to visit or to fear contracting the disease. You would have a better chance being hit by lightning, winning the lottery or getting West Nile Virus before you would get SARS.
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#18 Posted on 3.5.03 1745.53
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according to the washington post, 6 million people die of TB every year...why isn't there panic about that???


sars seems like little league compared to TB.
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#19 Posted on 5.5.03 1500.50
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I have a co-worker who just told me that he no longer wants to get his prescription from Canada "because they'll give me SARS."

After slapping him soundly in the head, I told him I was more likely to contract his stupidity, then he was to get SARS from a cholesterol prescription....



(edited by cranlsn on 5.5.03 1501)
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