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#1 Posted on 20.5.02 0105.54
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Well if Chris Jericho WASN'T proven right tonight then I must be living on Planet Stasiak.


Awhile ago the Ayatollah commented on Triple H holding him down. Hell, even Rock has commented on Triple H's abuse of his backstage power. But never, and I mean NEVER has it shone more clearly than tonight. Triple H lambasts RVD for having spotfests and no psychology. Well I will tell you this much: TONIGHT WAS A TRIPLE H SPOTFEST IN A CELL. EVERY major move Jericho attempted Triple H reversed. Triple H made it basically a non stop slaughter Jericho fest topped off with a bad finish. And by bad, I mean disgustingly terrible. There was NO reason for Triple H to win that match. NONE. The fucking "Student of the Game" needs to learn that feuds do not equal Triple H winning everytime there's a major PPV match. This isn't G.I.Joe and Chris Jericho is NOT Cobra.


And at the end of the match they showed the perfect allegory to Jericho's WWE career. Triple H stands up and has his roided up celebration. Chris Jericho lays face down on top of a cage over the rest of the midcard, but being crushed by Triple H standing over him on a glass ceiling.


Trips moves like Teddy Ruxpin (Damn straight Johnny!), talks like a guy who can't get enough air between sentences and is fucking the boss' daughter. And to add to it, Kevin Nash is there egging him right along.


Too bad RUSSO isn't here. He'd book Jericho right at least. Hell, I'd rather have John Slash n' Byrne write the WWE right now. Anything to avoid the terrible Triple H reign of shit I'm seeing right now.

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#2 Posted on 20.5.02 0114.50
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"Hell, even Rock has commented on Triple H's abuse of his backstage power."

When was this?

"Triple H lambasts RVD for having spotfests and no psychology."

And when was this?

"There was NO reason for Triple H to win that match. NONE. The fucking "Student of the Game" needs to learn that feuds do not equal Triple H winning everytime there's a major PPV match."

There was a reason HHH won. It was a blow off match. And faces win blow off matches. And HHH lost his last fued with Hogan...on ppv no less.
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#3 Posted on 20.5.02 0134.00
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A) Rock commented on "someone" being jealous on one of the network shows (something like Extra I think) and then basically said Triple H in not so many words on 1wrestling.com

B) Oh RVD gets lambasted for not using psychology by "other" WWF wrestlers. Who do you think it was?? Triple H has been well documented to having problems with guys who can out do him like RVD and Jericho. Why do you think they're being buried right now??

C) Losing to Hogan was a transition to Hogan becoming the champ. It had NOTHING to do with the Triple H/ Jericho feud so it doesn't count. The point I'm making, is that EVERY fucking PPV match Triple H has with Jericho, he goes over. Fully Loaded, Wrestlemania, and now Judgment Day. And it ends up in a squash match. HITC is not a blow off match by any means...HITC is the "most brutal" match the WWE has. And Triple H goes over in every major match they have on TV as well. The Rematch with Steph for the belt after WM, Jericho's first pseudo title win, and the damn list goes on. It seems the only guy that'll put Jericho over is Austin.
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#4 Posted on 20.5.02 0149.58
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I don't understand how Rock saying that he gets a small vibe of jealousy sometimes indicates Rock thinks HHH abuses his power backstage.

I still have no idea where the RVD comment comes from.

"It seems the only guy that'll put Jericho over is Austin."

Rock put over Jericho at three out of four ppv's. All were about as clean a win as a heel can get. Austin put over Jericho twice, both times due to massive interference.
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#5 Posted on 20.5.02 0158.04
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Ok ok, let me say it again. In an interview AFTER his basic hints of jealousy, on 1wrestling.com he, as clear as he could be without getting fired, said it was Triple H. I'm sure you can find the article there somewhere.

Once again, Triple H has had problems with guys not using ring psychology, like he's great at it. So in JR's Ross Report a few weeks ago he stated that lockerroom leaders were pissed at RVD for not using it. Locker room leaders. That leaves Triple H and Undertaker. Either way, Trips has a problem with people out doing him.

And yeah, you're right with Rocky. But clean those were far from. Breakdown on a chair does not a clean victory make.
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#6 Posted on 20.5.02 0158.09
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They missed one thing that would have made Jericho look at least a little legit. Triple H should've tapped out to the Walls as the ref climbed the cage. The outcome would've been the same, but at least we could've said, "Hey. Jericho almost had that."
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#7 Posted on 20.5.02 0159.23
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Amen to that Shane.
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#8 Posted on 20.5.02 0445.24
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Cheer or bitch all you want, it's always gonna be Austin beating 45 guys and Jericho getting pinned by Ruxpin. And there isn't a damn thing that will change that for a long time. And yes, I do hate that fact. With a passion.
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#9 Posted on 20.5.02 1201.44
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Hey, remember...we got HHH/Edge next and...uh... I'm not sure exactly what Jericho'll do. Benoit should be back later this month, so they'll elevate each other as always. But notice how Triple H always builds a guy up, then puts himself over in a big match... Creepy... First Jericho...now Edge... He must've *really* been pissed at that job he did for the Warrior at WrestleMania...he's takin' it out on all the other blonde guys.
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#10 Posted on 20.5.02 1235.20
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Goddamit...after what I hear about last night, it's gonna be Jericho midcarding for life...GODDAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#11 Posted on 20.5.02 1316.07
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Maybe Triple H won because he is next in line for a title match with Taker. I figured that HHH had to win if Taker won, and it happened. Who will Taker face? He isn't going to have a rematch with Hogan (at least I hope not). Edge isn't ready, and Austin is still feuding with the nWo. That would leave the Game, and thus he wins the brutal HIAC match to prove himself worthy of a undisputed title match.

But yes, it still did suck that Jericho didn't win.

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#12 Posted on 20.5.02 1335.08
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X-Pac pins someone on PPV: people make smarky comments about him jobbing on PPV because no-one will see it and XPac is SMART. HHH beats Jericho on PPV after losing in a televised match and he's getting the Big Win and Holding Jericho Down.

And when people quote Scott Keith's "Welcome to MidCard Hell, buddy" comment of two years ago, I'd like to think that it's actually being made as a compliment to Jericho's abilities that he managed to win the (first) unified title, and the tag belts, and main-event Wrestlemainia whilst in midcard hell. Otherwise, I'll treat all other such prophecies of his demise with exactly the same credibility that Keith's had.
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#13 Posted on 20.5.02 1437.09
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And do you honestly think Jericho would have been anywhere NEAR the Fatal Four Way for the first Undisputed Title if Triple H was wrestling at that time?? It would have been Triple H vs Kurt Angle vs Austin vs Rock and Hunter would have come out with the belts. But since Mr.Ruxpin didn't have his big jabberjaw in Vince's ear and Steph had no one to keep Jericho held down, Y2J took the belt. And yes the government is watching you.
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#14 Posted on 21.5.02 1316.29
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    Originally posted by aureole
    And when people quote Scott Keith's "Welcome to MidCard Hell, buddy" comment of two years ago, I'd like to think that it's actually being made as a compliment to Jericho's abilities that he managed to win the (first) unified title, and the tag belts, and main-event Wrestlemainia whilst in midcard hell. Otherwise, I'll treat all other such prophecies of his demise with exactly the same credibility that Keith's had.


Jericho certainly has made a lot of progress in the last two years, but until he gets the win over his rival HHH, he's still going to be stuck and never taken seriously.

I think it's more of a compliment to HHH's abilities to beat the guy all the time. Jericho beat both Austin & Rock (blatantly the WWF's top two stars) on the same night to win the titles, then beat them at every PPV going into WM. For HHH to beat such an accomplished superstar makes him the best, doesn't it?

Austin & Rock may not have jobbed cleanly, but that's because they're the faces. Only HHH as a heel can win cleanly. Fans don't usually want to see them lose cleanly. They did their job and managed to sell and put Jericho over until the overbooking torpedoes fired.

After all, Austin & Rock rarely (if ever) get decisive wins over HHH. Rock got one at Backlash 2000 (which HHH got "revenge" for the next month), and Austin got merely the first fall of the 2/3 falls match. I don't think Austin has ever had a win over HHH since he became a main eventer.

And, Foley? Well, he never got a title/main event win against the guy. Undertaker did, though, but he's nothing more than a transitional champion.

And, that's why HHH sucks.

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#15 Posted on 21.5.02 2123.03
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I hate to agree with the panda man, but I did find it so funny (not ha ha funny but errrr funny) that while Ross was pushing the "This was a buh-gawd war, both men will be effected by it for a long time coming" almost on cue Triple H gets up, brushes himself off, sticks out his chest, and does his steriod pose. Just another day at the office this match was to him.
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#16 Posted on 21.5.02 2150.00
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    Originally posted by aureole
    X-Pac pins someone on PPV: people make smarky comments about him jobbing on PPV because no-one will see it and XPac is SMART. HHH beats Jericho on PPV after losing in a televised match and he's getting the Big Win and Holding Jericho Down.

    And when people quote Scott Keith's "Welcome to MidCard Hell, buddy" comment of two years ago, I'd like to think that it's actually being made as a compliment to Jericho's abilities that he managed to win the (first) unified title, and the tag belts, and main-event Wrestlemainia whilst in midcard hell. Otherwise, I'll treat all other such prophecies of his demise with exactly the same credibility that Keith's had.



I didn't know he existed two years ago, Midcard Hell is just something that I thought of even thought it had already been thought of before. That happens a lot. I did mention Jericho had gotten out of Midcard Hell ala Brimstone but he has failed to capture Ash/Triple Ruxpin's soul and thus Luther's Dad from Smallville is sending him back there.

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#17 Posted on 22.5.02 0102.21
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Anyone remember a little over a year ago when Jericho's IC title reign came to an end at the hands of HHH? I never got that at all. I thought it was rather pointless for HHH to be beating Jericho in that match let alone holding the IC title. Jericho should've won here.

You still got to give props to Jericho for busting his ass off as Undisputed champ, but when booking's bad, bookings bad. Remember when Jericho was feuding with the Rock or whoever for the title, he had to the feuds for the most part because either Rock was out filming his crappy movies or his opponent isn't as good a wrestler as him(Austin).

P.S. Does anyone know who the hell Chris Benoit is?
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#18 Posted on 22.5.02 0119.30
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    Originally posted by The Vile One
    Does anyone know who the hell Chris Benoit is?


Yeah he's this cool guy who's style is a bit Angle, a bit Jericho, and a bit rabid wolverine. He's scheduled to come back and a lot of people have deluded themselves into thinking he's not gonna be where Jericho and Angle are. I reallly dig his work and think that that's unfortunate. Luckily his hair isn't nicer than Hunter's so he won't have to worry about jobbing to him any time soon. However, the guy from the brood with the big teeth is pretty fucked.
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