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MoeGates
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#1 Posted on 6.2.03 1607.52
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Taking off somewhat from a previous thread, here's two lists I came up with. Criteria for all lists: must be a declared Republican, alive, and have achieved some sort of prominence as an elected or appointed official.

Republicans I would consider voting for if control of congress was not a factor (and would probably vote for for President over Sen. Joe Lieberman):

Arizona Senator John McCain (although if I were a Republican I wouldn't be able to stand this guy)
Former Los Angeles Mayor Richard Riorden
New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg
Former New York Senator Alfonse D'Amato
Secretary of State Colin Powell
New York Representative Jack Quinn
Hawaii Representative Linda Lingle
Pennselvania Senator Arlen Specter
Minnesota Senator Norm Coleman
Indiana Senator Richard Lugar
Maine Senator Olympia Snowe
New York Representative Vito Fossella
Connecticut Representative Christopher Shays

Republicans I'd never vote for in a million years, but will admit I have a grudging respect for:

Tennessee Senator Lamar Alexander
Kansas Senator Sam Brownback
New Mexico Senator Pete Domenici
Iowa Senator Charles Grassley
Nebraska Senator Chuck Hagel
Utah Senator Orrin Hatch
Kentucky Senator Mitch McConnell
Alaska Senator Ted Stevens (although if I lived in Alaska I'd probably keep voting for him, as he's something else when in comes to bringing home the bacon. Wondering where your tax dollars went? Alaska. And West Virginia to be fair about it).
Texas Representative Henry Bonilla
Wisconsin Representative James Sensenbrenner
Former Texas Representative Dick Armey






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#2 Posted on 6.2.03 1612.38
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I think I am disqualified from this thread, as a Republican, but I have to commend 3 of those guys-
John McCain - yup, I actually like him. Not as much as I did before he ran for President, but I still have a lot of respect for him.
Richard Reardon- Anyone who would do the job for free has to get some respect.
Colin Powell- I am sorry, anyone who does NOT respect this guy needs to have his/her head examined.

Perhaps I will have to come up with a list of Democrats I have/could vote for.

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#3 Posted on 6.2.03 1636.08
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Bloomberg does the job for free also (so did Kennedy, and that was president). This doesn't really impress me that much, as it isn't like any of these guys exactly need the money.
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#4 Posted on 6.2.03 1701.02
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Moe - I agree w/ you on almost all of these but...D'amato!?!?!?

He's always struck me as just about the slimiest politician alive! (OK, that was a gross exaggeration - but still, pretty slimy) What am I missing?
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#5 Posted on 6.2.03 1719.58
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D'Amato IS the slimiest politician alive...but he's MY slimiest politician alive.

Essentially, the guy delivered for New York, took car of his constituents like nobody else, and is close enough to my views on enough issues - mostly because these views happen to be most New Yorker's views also - that I'll give him the edge over a Democrat I don't like.

As far as the slime factor goes, you've got to understand here in the Northeast we have enough slimey politicians that we can divide them up into two catagories: The best example of the first is Buddy Chianci Jr. (former mayor of Providence, who I think finally wound up in jail). Everyone knew this guy was completely corrupt and mobbed up, but loved him anyway. Why? He delivered for his voters, had a sense of humor about himself, and was essentially a "loveable rogue" kind of character. For history buffs, Jimmy Walker (Mayor of New York in the 20s) and former Boston Mayor/Congressman/Governor James Curley are the prototypes. Edwin Edwards is probably the Southern Equivalent.

The best example of the second is Robert Torricelli. A guy who put politics over his constituents, had no sense of humor about himself, and who's image was 100% slimeball, 0% lovable rogue. Southern equivalent? Slick Willy of course.

Now, D'Amato isn't completely like the first example, but is close enough that he can get away with the slime factor.

EDIT: Because for all the posting I do in the Politics forumn, I still can't quite manage to spell "Politician" right.

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#6 Posted on 6.2.03 1755.00
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    Originally posted by MoeGates
    D'Amato IS the slimiest politician alive...but he's MY slimiest politician alive.

    Essentially, the guy delivered for New York, took car of his constituents like nobody else, and is close enough to my views on enough issues - mostly because these views happen to be most New Yorker's views also - that I'll give him the edge over a Democrat I don't like.

    As far as the slime factor goes, you've got to understand here in the Northeast we have enough slimey politicians that we can divide them up into two catagories: The best example of the first is Buddy Chianci Jr. (former mayor of Providence, who I think finally wound up in jail). Everyone knew this guy was completely corrupt and mobbed up, but loved him anyway. Why? He delivered for his voters, had a sense of humor about himself, and was essentially a "loveable rogue" kind of character. For history buffs, Jimmy Walker (Mayor of New York in the 20s) and former Boston Mayor/Congressman/Governor James Curley are the prototypes. Edwin Edwards is probably the Southern Equivalent.

    The best example of the second is Robert Torricelli. A guy who put politics over his constituents, had no sense of humor about himself, and who's image was 100% slimeball, 0% lovable rogue. Southern equivalent? Slick Willy of course.

    Now, D'Amato isn't completely like the first example, but is close enough that he can get away with the slime factor.

    EDIT: Because for all the posting I do in the Politics forumn, I still can't quite manage to spell "Politician" right.

    (edited by MoeGates on 6.2.03 1823)






Why the gratuitous shots on Vincent A. 'Buddy' Cianci, a man who in a Democratic machine city won the mayoral office as a Republican in the 70's, had to step down in the 80's over a minor thing involving beating up his wife's boyfriend with a fire poker and burning him with a cigarette, and then was re-elected in the 90's as an independent, until all those minor kickback, corruption, and bribery charges have caused him to take a short sabbatical in Fort Dix for 5 years. True, I live 2 miles out of Providence (and wouldn't live in that city for any amount of money), but at least you knew Buddy was corrupt. Better him than the mental pigmy I have for a Congressman named Patrick Kennedy. When looking for the definition of clueless politician, Patches Kennedy is the picture next to the definition in the dictionary.
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