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#1 Posted on 29.1.02 1221.33
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And what I wanna know is: Mr. Cubs Fan, why the hating on Diamond Dallas Page, sir?

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#2 Posted on 29.1.02 1254.39
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There are guys like the (Big) Boss Man, who I do not ever wish to see in the ring. It's not anything to do with him personally - I'm sure he's not holding back a wide and intersting moveset and as long as someone keeps wanting him to pay to do what he does, I don't blame him for cashing the check - but it IS annoying. He's kinda passively annoying - he doesn't go out of his way to be sucky, but he still is.

DDP goes so so so so so so so so so much out of his way. If I ever am unlucky enough to stumble upon another interview, I may vomit on the spot. [I'm so happy cfgb got his new VCR before Excess!] It's not even the LIES he's told so many times that people accept it as truth now ("I did it all by myself! Eric WHO?"), it's not even the extradonarly crappy catchphrases and interviews (facing Goldberg is like riding a lighting bolt! FEEL THE ), it's not that he goes into business for himself (ever wonder why there aren't security people waiting for him when he jumps in the crowd?) it's that he WON'T SHUT UP. EVER. Coming off as totally full of yourself doesn't help.

For a guy who was only cool for one short stretch (the Savage feud) and part of a lot of crappy ideas, he sure manages to stick around for quite a while, maybe because he's so good with his BS, he gets some people to believe it for a while.

He completely doesn't fit in anywhere in the WWF right now, and actual cool people who could actually mean something ot the WWF like Christian shouldn't be losing to him.

(I guess I should dig up the edited transcript but it's not been a good day.)



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#3 Posted on 29.1.02 1520.24
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I'm so happy cfgb got his new VCR before Excess!

Call me crazy, but so am I. The show wasn't terrible this week, and I'm one of those people who enjoys Page's shameless self promoting.

I guess I'm on the other end of the stick where I think that Page is being used improperally - but in the wrong direction. You're right, he SHOULDN'T be going over Christian. He should be going over Kurt Angle!

Call it extreme, but I like the guy in my main events.




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#4 Posted on 29.1.02 1740.36
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i agree with cfgb... i like seeing him go up against the main eventers... i get a kick out of seeing him hit the diamond cutter from out of nowhere.... and i cant wait to see if they push this possitively page in the right direction.



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#5 Posted on 29.1.02 2349.17
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I think DDP's story is quite inspiring. Here's a guy who was the longest shot imaginable to get to the place he is now. But through hard work, committment and a lot of patience, he's become a former three-time (three-time, three-time) Heavyweight Champion in the World. And he's finally gotten over in the WWF, if the last few weeks are any indication.



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#6 Posted on 29.1.02 2357.16
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Or, you could just remember that he pretty much had a gig at all (and was pushed) because he was living next to the boss, and then won the title because his good friend was the booker.



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#7 Posted on 30.1.02 1022.05
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Originally posted by ekedolphin
I think DDP's story is quite inspiring. Here's a guy who was the longest shot imaginable to get to the place he is now. But through hard work, committment and a lot of patience, he's become a former three-time (three-time, three-time) Heavyweight Champion in the World. And he's finally gotten over in the WWF, if the last few weeks are any indication.



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Yeah I think Foley's story is alot more inspiring.



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#8 Posted on 30.1.02 1132.28
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Ah, but if you Read Foley's book, you get DDP's story in it as well

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#9 Posted on 30.1.02 2006.52
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    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    I think DDP's story is quite inspiring. Here's a guy who was the longest shot imaginable to get to the place he is now. But through hard work, committment and a lot of patience, he's become a former three-time (three-time, three-time) Heavyweight Champion in the World. And he's finally gotten over in the WWF, if the last few weeks are any indication.



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I agree with thecubsfan, and I think you have just fallen for all the stuff thecubs fan pointed out with his first post in this thread.
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#10 Posted on 30.1.02 2032.48
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(ever wonder why there aren't security people waiting for him when he jumps in the crowd?)


Just this one time, I'm going to speculate on something that is contrary to your opinion...

Did anyone else get the impression that he ran into the crowd to get the camera off of those GODAWFUL women who seemed completely out of place and inappropriate during the match?

I really doubt they told that one chick to talk to the other girls during the match, or that they told superskinny dark-haired wench to be that obnoxious... I think he was trying to give the production guys something else to show while they got the showboating women out of the arena.

That was the impression I got. I think it was impromptu, but not necessarily a bad thing.

Damn. I didn't even mean to say that. DDP IS TAKING OVER MY MIND ASHES



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#11 Posted on 30.1.02 2046.47
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Aw, DDP ain't all that bad...

When he's up for a match and he's matched up well, and he has a pretty good storyline going, I really enjoy his matches.

As far as his background...who cares? I enjoy watching him NOW. I don't hold Booker T's rap sheet against him when I enjoy watching him on TV.

There are a LOT of people who don't like him because he was friends with people...smacks more of jealousy or guilt by association...

And cubsfan, I can't hardly read your posts when there's a gray background to your purple text. Is it supposed to be that way or is something getting messed with in the translation?



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#12 Posted on 30.1.02 2305.39
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Guru SEZ: I really doubt they told that one chick to talk to the other girls during the match, or that they told superskinny dark-haired wench to be that obnoxious... I think he was trying to give the production guys something else to show while they got the showboating women out of the arena.

Strangely enough, last week Droz - he met his wife because she's a WWF stemstress - wrote how some backstage people (well, the one's that his wife works with) aren't happy the Escort/Ho gimmick back, because the girls are so often braindead and ask stuipd questions to people.

The Hos were always like that, having no idea what was going on, easily distracted. I was half-surpised to see that they were cheering for the right person on Heat.

My theory of DDP is that he doesn't often think about non-DDP things, though.

Eddie: The purple isn't looking as good as I'd thought, so I'm probably ditching it after this post (already starting typing this when I read your post so I can't go back) - the grey background is just because it's being marked read, I suppose.

Here's a dare: When was the last time DDP had a good match?

I don't care about Booker T holding up a Wendy's because it doesn't really affect what he does in the ring. DDP is in the ring because of what his friends and influce has got him, to me.

I don't like anyone who gets ahead for reasons besides doing well at what they do and after that Goldberg match at Halloween Havoc, it sure seemed like he was coasting on what he had done before, who he was friends with, and one move. And still telling us how great he was.



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#13 Posted on 31.1.02 0832.04
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I have to admit to liking DDP because of his goofy interview style. There was just something so earnestly dumb about the way he'd try to work in "monkey" like it was the most heinous of all insults or his fascination with the word "scum", perhaps best (worst) used with "Hollywood... SCUM!...Hogan!"

Then there was his Steiner feud, where he had to work in "I'M...STILL...STANDIN'!" even if it didn't really fit. And I could amuse myself by counting how many times he'd say "Einsteiner" during a single interview. Your typical DDP/Steiner verbal battle would be something like "Yo, Einsteiner...yo, yo, Einsteiner! Einsteiner! Yo, Ein-" and Steiner would finally remember cut him off to say something about having sex with lots of women, to which DDP would respond with "...Einsteiner - I'M STILL STANDIN'!" and that would be it. He wasn't quite Sid-like in his ability to transfix me with his interview antics, but I was morbidly fascinated with his interviews nonetheless.
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#14 Posted on 31.1.02 1000.40
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Then there was his Steiner feud, where he had to work in "I'M...STILL...STANDIN'!" even if it didn't really fit.

The BEST part of that whole feud was the night where he started...

"YO STEINER! I'M.....STILL....STAN" WHAP! Steiner clobbers him from behind knocking him to his ass.

THAT was funny!




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#15 Posted on 2.2.02 0546.00
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DDP is alright in my book.
He seems to love the self promotion alright, but heh..if it works for you, do it.
He likes himself and he wants others to lik himself too.

His friends & connections got him a long way obviously, but he has to put in alot of work too.
He is alright in the ring, something other neighbors of Eazy-E aren't. He puts alot of effort in it.

His promos and catch phrases have the tendency to get lame fast though.
the whole SCUM era is amazing..It SO annoyed me. I was almost rooting for Hogan at some points
A classic though is:
Chris Jericho : And blahblahblah..PaGEEE
DDP: Hey hey hey JERK-icho...
*rofl*




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#16 Posted on 3.2.02 1354.50
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Posted by cubsfan: My theory of DDP is that he doesn't often think about non-DDP things, though.

NEWSFLASH: Cubsfan discovers wrestler has ego. Apparently though, he still thinks it is actually isolated to just one guy.


DDP is not that bad. I would give him a Rick "Thumbs in the Middle" for enjoyability. There are guys I don't find near as enjoyable in or out of the ring, Big Bossman being one of them. But I don't think I would say that I actually 'hated' any wrestler, wrestling is just not important enough for all that.

Sure, DDP used connections to open up opportunities. Guess what, lots of people inside and outside of the wrestling business use connections to open up doors. Sometimes you have to take an opportunity anyway you can get it. It's the way the world works. I'm not sure how Eazy-E can be helping him out now that he is in the WWF. Eventually you will always have to stand on your own two feet. Determining your spot on the wrestling heirarchy is always a subjective thing anyway. DDP always seem to me to perform well enough in the ring, and receive enough of a crowd reaction to deserve a run at the top. I'm not going to say that knowing Eric didn't help. But I am also not going to say that just because he knew Eric means that he could never be champion because it would be a conflict of interest.

BTW, who are all these wrestlers who are not trying to put themselves over? I thought self-promotion was part of the gig.
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