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|  #21 Posted on 30.1.02 0347.18
Reposted on: 30.1.09 0359.04 | |
Hells yeah. Any game using the No Mercy engine is gonna get my hard-earned dollars.
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| #22 Posted on 30.1.02 1100.56
Reposted on: 30.1.09 1105.40 | But what would they use for an arena and such? And enterances??? That was the other ultra crappy thing about the WM2000 to No Mercy transfer... No Tag Team enterances? No in ring pyro? WHAT?!?!?! Oh, but a No Mercy engine with more than 4 wrestlers in the ring and no slow down would be as awesome as the Undertaker who is awesome.
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| #23 Posted on 30.1.02 1528.16
Reposted on: 30.1.09 1529.03 | I'll bite. HELL YEAH
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| #24 Posted on 30.1.02 1649.19
Reposted on: 30.1.09 1659.05 | No Mercy, easily. Nice story modes, easy controls, and good CAW. I do with they would use the caws in story mode more though. They can come out and kick your ass, if you get them the belt.
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| #25 Posted on 30.1.02 1652.32
Reposted on: 30.1.09 1659.07 | | Hands down, Firepro. | Jaguar
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| #26 Posted on 30.1.02 1953.45
Reposted on: 30.1.09 1959.04 | Hey thanks, Mr. Cactuar. This is an actual post worth giving up. Okay, I haven't really gotten to play Smackdown 3 all that much, so I'm not sure exactly how their CAW works, but I was looking at it, and I saw all these points going towards different styles, like Brawling, Technical, High flying and such. So here's the lowdown:
All current wrestlers in the game start with their current moveset. THEY WILL NOT USE ANYTHING THEY DO NOT USE ON TV. Have you ever played No Mercy and just sat there watching and saying, "That's ridiculous. The Rock has NEVER done a damn shoulderbreaker in his life." that stops now. Poor wrestlers with smaller movesets get smaller movesets in the game (Looking at you Bossman). Also, all CAWs start with a limited number of points that you can put into different catergories of styles, and then into buying different moves that become available when you put enough points into a style. This is like a Wrestling RPG. You gotta level up.
Now here's the key. Everytime you play through season mode with a character you get two things. Points and Cash. Cash is put in a bank and can be used to buy anything (ala the Smackdown Mall in NM) but POINTS can only be used by the character you've played with. Now CAWs can spend their points on whatever they want. They can up their High Flying status, so they are better at High Flying moves, and have more High Flying moves they can purchase and use. However in game wrestlers cannot change their skillset. They can do 2 things with their points. They can buy new moves, and they can upgrade their moves.
Now to explain, buying new moves will help fill out a characters moveset. Take Jeff Hardy for example. Say you want to take him all the way. You want to put the WWF title on him. With his current moveset, all he's got is a barricade plancha, a swanton, and a double legdrop to the nuts as his power moves. So you take him through the season, you get him that Cruiserweight belt, and you rack up some points. Now you can buy him some more moves (mostly high flying, cause you can't change his skills) and make him more and more of a threat until he really is a World Title contender.
The other little idea of mine is Upgrading Moves. Take Booker T for example. He uses the Bookend, and the Axe Kick as his two finishers. During InVasion everybody and their mother kicked out of the Bookend and the Axe Kick, so the game developers would be justified in rating those moves at a B powerlevel (No Mercy power rankings) however, if you kept winning matches with him you'd get more points, and you'd be able to spend them and upgrade Booker T's Bookend to an S ranking, making him a World title threat as well.
This would give the game sooooo much replay value as you can expand people's movesets in so many different ways and play it however you like. And in the end, if you upgraded everyone to their highest potential and gave them full movesets then your friend could come over and be like, "Dude, since when does The Rock do a freakin' Shoulder Drop?!" And you can smile, cause it's all your fault.
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| #27 Posted on 30.1.02 2249.17
Reposted on: 30.1.09 2259.02 | Not to get all OT on your ass, but in the grand olde days of yore Rock's finisher WAS a shoulder breaker!
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| #28 Posted on 30.1.02 2300.56
Reposted on: 30.1.09 2303.48 | Man! Someone one beat me to the Shoulder Breaker! Curses! 
Anyways, it's an interesting premise. I like the whole "Wrestling RPG" idea, though I think being able to edit the superstars isn't that great an idea. Maybe if you added a "default" option that would allow you to play as the normal wreslter instead of the "super" superstar.
What I really want to see (and hopefully AKI will pull this off in their game for EA) is a dynasty mode. You start a promotion, and you compete with other federations for talent, ratings, getting PPV deals, interpromotional events, etc. Train your wrestlers to make them better. Kind of like a next gen Promotion Wars. That would totally own!
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|  #29 Posted on 31.1.02 0249.44
Reposted on: 31.1.09 0254.24 | What exactly is this "Promotion Wars" people keep talking about?
edit: Um, never mind. Excalibur05 just explained in another thread.
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(edited by Qubber on 31.1.02 0131) | Jaguar
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| #30 Posted on 31.1.02 1144.52
Reposted on: 31.1.09 1150.23 | I had a horrible, horrible feeling that The Rock did used to use a shoulderbreaker. Oh well, guess I should listen to myself sometimes. Anyway, you'd have to be able to switch all the wrestlers back to default, but this would be my dream Wrestling game. I would play it FOREVER.
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| #31 Posted on 31.1.02 1445.22
Reposted on: 31.1.09 1459.01 | Apparently Jaguar's been banned, but it should be pointed out Rocky Maiva did use a shoulderbreaker as a finisher when he first debuted as the "blue-chipper".
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| #32 Posted on 31.1.02 1619.13
Reposted on: 31.1.09 1629.04 | Originally posted by Mr. Cactuar
Apparently Jaguar's been banned, but it should be pointed out Rocky Maiva did use a shoulderbreaker as a finisher when he first debuted as the "blue-chipper".
Of course I did that about three posts ago, but whatever.
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| #33 Posted on 1.2.02 1937.48
Reposted on: 1.2.09 1954.50 | Oops! Sorry Excalibur!
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| #34 Posted on 3.2.02 1221.05
Reposted on: 3.2.09 1221.17 | On a technicality though, he just might be right.
Rocky Miavia used the shoulderbreaker as a finisher.
However, I don't ever recall The Rock using one.
Then again, I didn't pay much attention to his matches just after his heel turn, where he might have still used the move. | Jaguar
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| #35 Posted on 3.2.02 2150.25
Reposted on: 3.2.09 2150.37 | Raptor SAVES! Raptor SAVES!
Thanks man. I know I'VE never seen The Rock hit a damn shoulderbreaker.
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