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The 5th Horseman
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#1 Posted on 24.12.02 1319.40
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I have been sick of HHH's performances lately and I haven't been shy about saying it but, I'm also not shy about giving credit where it's deserved. HHH was very entertaining last night, in my opinion. The look on his face while he was struggling, like he was having a brain anyeurism, when Steiner had the big grin on his face, was great. HHH kicking away his chair and dancing all over the ring trying to gain a leverage advantage had me laughing out loud. And, then when HHH threw his arm up on the table again and Steiner pinned his arm down 3 quick times again, that was a nice touch.

I'm still not expecting a good match between the 2 at Royal Rumble but, I am pleasantly surprised at the buildup so far. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised by their match also.
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#2 Posted on 24.12.02 1639.17
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Scott Steiner is an old Useless Lump of Steroids, so these acts of kindness by Teo mean nothing. If Teo acts like this around Jericho, Booker, RVD, Kane, etc., THEN you've got a point.
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#3 Posted on 24.12.02 1641.34
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Stiener went over hhh so much becuase hh will use that as bargining to make sure he goes over on ppv and straight to WM with the title. This is just my opiniion and i hope i am wrong but i just use the past as examples(ie: rvd pinning him in tag match) I to will give hhh credit where its due(ie: summerslam this year) but this year with him has been total diaaspointment.

i really really dont want to see hhh in any title match at WM not cuz i hhh hater but becuase i belive the match quality would be brough down. im not saying wwe does not have a spot for him but on that card they must go for change.

sorry about speeling buyt its xmas, i boozing and too lazy to re-read.

merry xmas all
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#4 Posted on 25.12.02 0937.24
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Can you not EVER enjoy anything without thinking what the consequences will be for the ppv aftermath, if and how your almost there favorites are being used and try to search for proof that HHH is indeed the devil?

Fuck, 5th horseman said he liked the segment and thought it was funny..he likes the build up for this feud and all and that is it.
No, instead right away acts of kindness are being dragged in and repaying at the ppv.

Geeez....do what your buddy RVD does..relax a little. enjoy the show.
Ok..now what I wanted to say..

Hey, 5th horseman, glad you liked it. Usually arm wrestle matches suck, but thanks to all the stuff I have been reading about it I am actually looking forward to seeing this one on monday here in Holland.
Keep up the positivity.
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#5 Posted on 25.12.02 1003.23
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Don't miss it, dMp. Seriously good stuff from Tripps there. I honestly don't think it would be a good idea to put the title right on Steiner at the Rumble. They could possibly do something like what they did with Brock/UT at Unforgiven. This would add intensity to the feud and allow it to simmer for a while, possibly even until WrestleMania. I think they might end the feud at No Way Out, though, possibly with a gimmick match.
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#6 Posted on 25.12.02 1004.14
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    Originally posted by dMp
    Can you not EVER enjoy anything without thinking what the consequences will be for the ppv aftermath, if and how your almost there favorites are being used and try to search for proof that HHH is indeed the devil?


Isn't the end what ultimately matters, though? Wrestling has always been about who wins. Why even bother having matches/feuds if it doesn't matter who the winner is? If the end doesn't matter, there is no compelling reason to even watch these stories develop and it's random events that just happen with no rhyme or reason.

The end result is EVERYTHING in wrestling. The WrestleMania 6's, the SummerSlam '92's. Wrestling is all about who the one man standing tall at the end of an epic match is.

If the end result of the Steiner/HHH feud is more HHH, then certainly what happened on RAW can be viewed in this context. It's reasonable to complain if someone isn't satisfied with an end result they don't like, because the big picture is just as important, if not more, than what happens in the moment in wrestling.

If 5th Horseman was entertained by what he saw on RAW, that's great. Hell, I didn't think it was that bad either and HHH does deserve credit for making that segment entertaining. However, there's nothing wrong with taking a look at the situation from all angles and that includes the big picture, which may or may not turn out to be worthwhile. We'll have to wait and see, because it's not over yet.
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#7 Posted on 25.12.02 1018.15
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    Originally posted by dMp
    Can you not EVER enjoy anything without thinking what the consequences will be for the ppv aftermath, if and how your almost there favorites are being used and try to search for proof that HHH is indeed the devil?

    Fuck, 5th horseman said he liked the segment and thought it was funny..he likes the build up for this feud and all and that is it.
    No, instead right away acts of kindness are being dragged in and repaying at the ppv.

    Geeez....do what your buddy RVD does..relax a little. enjoy the show.
    Ok..now what I wanted to say..

    Hey, 5th horseman, glad you liked it. Usually arm wrestle matches suck, but thanks to all the stuff I have been reading about it I am actually looking forward to seeing this one on monday here in Holland.
    Keep up the positivity.



Actally dmp i was being pretty objective and not completley hating on hhh. just saying my opinion on what should happen to make me a happy fan and what might happen. i never once bashed the product completly as i have been enjoying most of wrestling on raw xcept for certain aspects. some involve hhh (both positive and negative) some dont.
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#8 Posted on 26.12.02 0100.20
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I'm finding myself agreeing both with 5thHorseman and Texas Kelly.

The armwrestling segment was great. HHH cartoonish overselling of Steiners power was perfect, he gave some of himself to make the babyface look good (what a concept). Neither of these guys are anywhere near my personal favourites, but I will give them credit for grabbing my attention on a feud going into last Monday I had zero interest in.

But I do sit back and wonder why HHH seems to give and allow more when he's in there with Undertaker, Hogan, Michaels or Steiner. Is it a coincidence or is it because they are all over the hill 40 year old wrestlers with broken down bodies, and it is frustrating that he doesn't seem to do the same with Jericho, RVD or Kane (who I'm not big fan of but still might have had potential)

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#9 Posted on 26.12.02 0321.28
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The way I look at it and Ive mentioned this before, It doesnt matter to me who wins a fued. It just matters if at the end BOTH wrestlers are elevated. Thats all Ive wanted fom HHH lately... I just want someone to look good next to him. He doesnt have to lay down and let everyone on the roster pin him clean. I just want him to give someone a good rub for once. And other than Shawn he hasnt given his last few fueds (Jericho, RVD, and Kane) the good rub. If hes wantes to be the top dog on RAW then goddammit elevate someones heat.
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#10 Posted on 26.12.02 1037.04
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I'm still waiting for that big RVD push that the shills told us was sure to commence after his feud with HHH....
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#11 Posted on 26.12.02 1041.01
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    Originally posted by asteroidboy
    I'm still waiting for that big RVD push that the shills told us was sure to commence after his feud with HHH....


Shh...if "God" wills it that RVD will be pushed, then RVD will be pushed.

-Patrick
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#12 Posted on 26.12.02 1044.55
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    Originally posted by Net Hack Slasher
    But I do sit back and wonder why HHH seems to give and allow more when he's in there with Undertaker, Hogan, Michaels or Steiner. Is it a coincidence or is it because they are all over the hill 40 year old wrestlers with broken down bodies, and it is frustrating that he doesn't seem to do the same with Jericho, RVD or Kane (who I'm not big fan of but still might have had potential).

It's NOT a coincidence, NHS.

Guys that Teo has made look good since his return: Hogan, Undertaker, Shawn, Useless Lump of Steroids. All aging lugs who (aside from Shawn, and then only to a certain extent) can no longer carry their own weight around the ring. All guys that when Teo is placed against, Teo looks better than.

Guys that Teo has completely buried since his return: Jericho (TWICE!), RVD, Kane, and Angle (to an extent - Angle did go over at the PPV, but Teo had to get his job back THE NEXT NIGHT). All guys who can be stars, who can carry their weight in the ring, and who (with maybe the exception of Kane) are considered the future of the business. All guys that when Teo is placed against, Teo's suckiness is completely exposed for what it is.

IT'S NOT A COINCIDENCE.
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#13 Posted on 27.12.02 1809.42
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Maybe it is a matter of HHH told what he is going to do, period. Maybe, just maybe Vince has looked at the "Year of the H", and sees that it hasn't worked and now going in a different direction. I doubt that is what is going on, but it is nice to wish.
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#14 Posted on 27.12.02 2328.56
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    Originally posted by Texas Kelly
    Scott Steiner is an old Useless Lump of Steroids, so these acts of kindness by Teo mean nothing. If Teo acts like this around Jericho, Booker, RVD, Kane, etc., THEN you've got a point.


Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that HHH completely redeemed himself. He's still got a lot of "putting over" to do before he can begin to redeem himself, in my opinion. I'm just saying that he was entertaining on Raw this week.

For the record, I WANT HHH to remain the champion at Royal Rumble. I don't think it does anything for the product if Steiner goes over HHH after all that HHH has done in the past year. When HHH puts someone over for the World Championship, it should be to elevate one of the mainstays of Raw, not a broken down Scott Steiner. That's just my opinion.
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