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#41 Posted on 9.12.02 2333.48
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Has it occurred to anyone that they might be saving RVD's big win for WM??? Just a thought...

Eke, hell of a post. I will join that club with you. I've been watching the WWE/WWF for 19 years now. I've been through the good, and I've been through the bad. Every week, I still get excited when I see the WWE signature. If this makes me stupid, then so be it.
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#42 Posted on 9.12.02 2334.56
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Go ahead and give me evidence that Triple H has or ever will put over a rising superstar. Go ahead, I dare you.

Triple H isn't drawing, that's the problem. He's no huge draw. What buyrates? He's not drawing anything at all. So all he has is credibility, that he can pass on to the guys that people want to see. That's his usefullness. Yet everything is built around getting more 'heat' on HHH. Except he's pretty much killed off his potential challengers.

Who's going to buy a PPV to see RVD challenge for the title now? He's failed in three title matches, only to go back to the midcard, and lost to HHH three times. Who's gonna buy him as a challenger now? He's just a guy who is good but can't win the big one.
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#43 Posted on 9.12.02 2335.18
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Hear, hear Vanilla. I, too, must offer my request to join up. No matter what, I can't and won't stop watching. It always seems to be entertaining, even in the supposedly "horrid" times and with shows like tonight, wrestling is just plain fantastic. If that makes me "complacent" and stupid, so be it as well.
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#44 Posted on 9.12.02 2338.55
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Check the house show results for this weekend...I think HHH was jobbing left and right...
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#45 Posted on 9.12.02 2340.53
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Wow, a house show, infront of less people that go to a Circuit City to see Steve Austin. House shows that have no bearing on the overall product.

How much do house shows mean to WWE? Brock Lesnar is suspended right? Enough said.
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#46 Posted on 10.12.02 0856.37
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    Originally posted by VanillaSky
    See, I don't know. When I watch the shows, if I listen to the crowd's reactions, it sounds to me like HHH and HBK are over. Maybe I have a special tv or something that makes the crowds sound louder than they actually are...

    The thing that makes me mad are the people who just stop watching b/c they assume it's going to suck. That's what bothers me more than anything. Another thing are the people who think "oh, b/c it's going to feature HHH, this match will suck."

    Comparing the WWE as of now to WCW seems to be the trend. There are huge differences between the two. I'm not going to have this argument. I really, really, REALLY liked RAW and I will probably really like the PPV. Just go into these things with open minds. It only takes one show to turn it around. Don't be somewhere else when it happens.






This is the part of the argument I don't understand. People are told not to watch if they think its going to suck. But, if they don't watch because they think it will suck, they are wrong as well. Which is it?
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#47 Posted on 10.12.02 1001.43
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I tried to stop watching, but I can't. I've been watching wrestling since I was 8 years old. It sucks that RAW has been so bad for teh last few months, but I think last night had some improvment. The HBK/HHH thing aside, becuase we all knew that was going to be on, I thought the Booker/Goldust segments were spot on, including the post match interview. Flair was awesome. The women are actually getting booked decently. Christian's line about not checking out Jericho's package was great. It was a big time improvment over what they've been doing. They still have a ton to do to right the ship, but at least they are taking steps.
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#48 Posted on 10.12.02 1525.24
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Oh super another obnoixious thread the blankets hundred of people under one "IWC" label. That's so great. I guess I'm part of it because I think HHH is crap. But then again I like women matches and think Test & Stacy is cheesy fun but fun nonetheless. Oh sorry I must be lying because you branded me along with everyone else in IWC... Now if you were a little more specific and might agree, I think is very annoying going over the TV Show fan reaction page on the Torch and keeping seeing ZEROS being passed out and Best Match: None, being given. Then I agree if you enjoyed nothing on the show and think it deserves a Zero then you should take a few weeks off (which I've done in the past). Personally as bad as Raw was over the year I only remember once or twice that I think it deserved a Zero because it had no redeeming quality at all.

But hating specifics and commenting on it is something that should be expected and done on a WRESTLING BOARD. And being the focus point of a wrestling company in turn will be the focus point of a wrestling board.

Borish your right none of us is psychic and not know what will happen in the future, but you can use history to speculate on what will happen. And in recent history people like yourself kept saying stuff like Jerchio might win HITC (which he didn't), RVD lost in the PPV but he could still contend next month (which he didn't and was pushed back to mid-card), it might not be a HHH/HBK final 2 in the Elimination chamber (which it was). Now that HBK is champ it doesn't mean he'll only face HHH in the next PPV (Which he is). So what reason can you possible have to think anything will change. Why the hell do you Apologist continue to give the WWF the benefit of the doubt.

You want to know my guess on who's HHH going to put over. No chance RVD will beat HHH, but I would put down money on HHH dropping the title to Big Poochie Kevin Nash. WHY? A)It's his buddy and B) he's a 40 year old has been who is no threat to HHH spot. And unlike the apologist there is presentment on my guess. Look who HHH puts over (Taker, HOgan, Michaels) see a thread. Well if your not an apologist you will.

Some have said RVD is still over so it hasn't hurt him. WHAT? Are you saying lets wait until he loses all his popularity and then give him the title. How idiotic. There's a saying if a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it does it make a sound? Well when you finally push someone people want but no one is around to watch it does it really count? ANSWER NO, Look at WCW they waited and waited to pull the trigger on new talent but when they finally did it was too late they lost all their viewers. Vince McMahon is doing the same damn thing. Every main stream interview he keeps saying "We are in a rebuilding period" then why the hell not allow new guys to sink or swim on top. Have new people as the focus point for longer the 2 weeks but 3 or 4 months and see if there's an improvement. Because it can't get worse then this.
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#49 Posted on 10.12.02 1539.04
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Well, I am in the midst of a few weeks off... so I see what you mean. I have not watched Smackdown in like a month, and have only caught a smattering of Raw. I even KNEW it was on last night and deliberatly did something else instead.
Hopefully things get better during my break. Maybe I will check out the PPV? Who knows...
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#50 Posted on 10.12.02 1938.25
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My problem is just giving up, like some people have done. Oh, so HHH is wrestling...let's just not watch. That crap burns me up. Let us let one man, one wrestler make us not watch the show. Let us not show our support to the other guys who go out and bust their asses for our entertainment. Let's not cheer for the Booker T's, the RVD's, the Jericho's, the Trish's, just because HHH is "holding them down". That upsets me to no end. Remember 1995? Remember all the stuff that was going on then? Remember TL Hopper, Freddy Joe Floyd, Who, The Goon, and Alex "the Pug" Porteau? That was bad. The WWF fought back, though. They turned it around. THAT'S why I give them the benefit of the doubt. They are beginning an upswing.
HHH/HBK at the ppv will be great. Do you actually think HBK would do a ladder match if he knew he was going to suck at it? No. I am excited.
RVD would be a good champion for Raw, but he's almost too vanilla on the mic. I can only remember one promo in his career I liked, and that was the HHH one. Booker would be a better choice, in my opinion.
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#51 Posted on 10.12.02 2036.59
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VS: you make it sound as if we the consumer is somehow obliged to support this product the way we might our family, friends, or country. World Wrestling Entertainment is a company which creates programming whose purpose to entertain people. As of late, one of their programs has ceased to consistently entertain me. I owe them no loyalty or any sort of benefit of the doubt. I know they certainly don't feel they owe me, the consumer anything more than what they have to provide if I pay them.

Yes, I do remember 1995. It sucked. I stopped watching WWF for a goodly while during that period, because it didn't entertain me. Just like it is not doing now.

And as for the idea of not watching for one character, the problem is I have trouble watching a show whose main character makes me actively want to change the channel, and unless something mind-bogglingly cool is going on otherwise on the show, I avoid it. I do not find Ray Romano at all funny, even though I find some of the supporting characters amusing. Am I in the wrong for not watching "Everybody Loves Raymond"? Should I look to the stellar work of Brad Garrett and Peter Boyle, who are busting their asses to be funny? If not, why should I slog through 30 minutes of HHH per show to get to the 3 minute RVD match? If the reason is "because it could get better" well then I'll read about it, and when it seems like it's consistently better, I'll watch again. If it's because "you don't want to be a fair-weather fan", well I have no shame in avoiding a product I don't like. And if it's "because you should be loyal to them" well I am sorry but the only way I have to express my displeasure with their show is not purchasing it. If eventually HHH is performing to crowds of 800 people, maybe then they'll say "we should try something else."
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