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#21 Posted on 9.12.02 1341.22
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    Originally posted by PowerPB13
    Your WWE.com Raw preview:

    RAW comes to you live to night on The New TNN at 9/8 CT.

    We are just six days away from Armageddon. You will not want to miss this final RAW before the huge Pay-Per-View event. Last week, Shawn Michaels -- serving as special guest referee -- was forced to raise the arm of his Armageddon opponent, Triple H(who defeated somebody that's apparently not worth mentioning). The week prior, Triple H attacked HBK during his World Heavyweight Championship Match(against someone who, again, doesn't seem to be worth mentioning). The two former friends clearly have a long and storied history. What will happen tonight, just six days before they meet in the World Heavyweight Championship match at Armageddon?

    We'll undoubtedly get more information on all these questions and many more tonight on RAW! Don't miss it when it kicks off at 9/8 CT on the new TNN!

    -Patrick



Damnit you're one was far better than this official hoo-ha.
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#22 Posted on 9.12.02 1352.49
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I've got a bit of a soft spot for RVD, especially since he worked a Gateway Championship Wrestling show a few months before joining the WWF(my avatar picture was a photo I took at that show during his match with Nova). I keep wanting to believe that they're not ignoring the guy, but they've gone out of their way to NOT mention him when it comes to the main-event situation...

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#23 Posted on 9.12.02 1400.06
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RV who? Never heard of him. Why should our wise masters the WWE mention this unknown heathen when we have the prodigal son, and a deity in the main event already. This is a feud for the ages, one that will elevate the bright young star of HBK to new levels or give the hitherto untried HHH a much deserved and overdue run with the title.

Your sympathy for this Robert character is admirable, but surely misplaced
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#24 Posted on 9.12.02 2021.29
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    Originally posted by PowerPB13
    RVD and Booker T's respective "burials" will continue; in fact, one will likely wrestle in the opening match while the other puts over Bautista to build Bautista up before his loss to Kane at the PPV.


Wow, and I was just guessing...

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#25 Posted on 9.12.02 2104.36
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I quit watching Raw back in September... granted that's just because we don't get TNN here in the dorms... *sniff sniff*...
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#26 Posted on 9.12.02 2218.21
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Well, I'm glad you guys didn't watch RAW because it ruled! Cynics like you guys are what's wrong with the IWC. Raw featured Flair's best promo in years, quality wrestling, a hot hot main event, and HBK jumping off a freaking semi onto HHH. So, go ahead and don't watch. Suits me just fine. It will mean less people waving around signs that say "John is War" or "I am on TV" and less people bitching about HHH and more people focused on the in-ring product.
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#27 Posted on 9.12.02 2232.22
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The people bitching about HHH are the ones who are focused on the in-ring product, not the ones paying money to go to a TV taping to try and get themselves on camera.

Did it suit you fine when all these hardcore wrestling fans who are just cynics tuned out WCW? You didn't have to hear them complain or see their signs because no one was at the shows. The company lost $80 million dollars. Its TV shows got cancelled and the company got sold for pocket change.

Don't mistake cynicism and criticism for WANTING the company to tank. Most people have been made cynical by bad decision after bad decision. And most people criticize because they just want to see a better show.
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#28 Posted on 9.12.02 2243.00
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See, I don't know. When I watch the shows, if I listen to the crowd's reactions, it sounds to me like HHH and HBK are over. Maybe I have a special tv or something that makes the crowds sound louder than they actually are...

The thing that makes me mad are the people who just stop watching b/c they assume it's going to suck. That's what bothers me more than anything. Another thing are the people who think "oh, b/c it's going to feature HHH, this match will suck."

Comparing the WWE as of now to WCW seems to be the trend. There are huge differences between the two. I'm not going to have this argument. I really, really, REALLY liked RAW and I will probably really like the PPV. Just go into these things with open minds. It only takes one show to turn it around. Don't be somewhere else when it happens.
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#29 Posted on 9.12.02 2247.10
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    Another thing are the people who think "oh, b/c it's going to feature HHH, this match will suck."

That's actually a pretty good assumption nowadays. Punch, kick, knee, pedigree. EXCITEMENT! Maybe throw in a sleeper for good measure.
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#30 Posted on 9.12.02 2257.19
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Yes, punch-kick-Pedigree. Wow, I guess it's not only deafness that afflicts the HHHaters, but blindness as well. I sure hope you guys love being cynical and pissed off about a "dirty conspiracy, damn that HHH!" because while you were doing that, I was enjoying the best RAW in a few months. Solid matches, a SCORCHING Flair promo that's sold Armageddeon for me, a good storyline that points to a Booker T/Goldust tag title reign, Jericho pwning, just plain all around ENTERTAINMENT. ::Gasp:: I know that seems to be taboo around here, but my god. I was entertained by RAW. I enjoyed it. Dear lord, damn that HHH!
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#31 Posted on 9.12.02 2258.00
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It doesn't take one show to turn things around. It's gonna take weeks of good shows to restore my faith in RAW.

Excuse me for not going into each show with glee and anticipation after 6 months of pure bullshit.

As for Triple H's matches sucking, I can count the number of decent matches he's had since his return on one hand. He just doesn't have it anymore.

When I listen to the crowds for the past few months, Rob Van Dam and Booker T are the most over guys yet they can't get out of midcard hell. Sure, HHH is over but what good is an over guy unwilling to help anyone get to his level? Worthless. What good is Shawn Michaels? He's only here to put over HHH, the future of the company. What purpose does that serve?

I'm sorry if I'm not eternally optimistic after being pounded in the face with one man's ego trip for the past six months that's tanking the company. I'm sorry if that doesn't get me all excited to see RAW every week.
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#32 Posted on 9.12.02 2300.41
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Fuel, are you and the rest of the HHHaters just blatantly ignoring the storyline, or are you born thick-skulled? The ENTIRE FRIGGIN STORYLINE is based on Trip's overweening ego and arrogance. Even you "smarks" are sucked into it, way more so than any mark. Enjoy, the WWF's got you hook, line, and sinker.
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#33 Posted on 9.12.02 2305.32
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It seemed to me that the crowd was more into Jeff Hardy than HHH, being that the only heat the the match generated was the infrequent pops Jeff's comeback got. But then again it's probably that HHH is such a great heel that the audience sits on their hands out of respect for him.
And how dare you say HHH's offense is punch-knee-kick-pedigree, HHH rammed Jeff into the stairs a couple times. He is a technical wonder!
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#34 Posted on 9.12.02 2306.08
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That's exactly their line of thinking. Except it's tanking the company. RVD, Jericho, Booker, Kane, all being buried, just not happening, right? A guy with no future is the only one that HHH ever lets get one over on him isn't happening right? Are you just ignoring what's been going on for the past 6-8 months? I'm not talking about his storyline ego. That'd be a fine storyline, if his real ego weren't killing his show and everyone on it.
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#35 Posted on 9.12.02 2311.22
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Mark,

No, the WWF is the company which we'd like to see set ablaze with the glory of a newborn sun. We're talking about the WWE product.

Anyway...

I think gugs said it best for me, and for every hardcore fan who refuses to turn off WWE programming no matter how bad it gets. (And keep in mind, it has been getting better, despite what some of you cynics say.) He hit the nail right on the head when he said, “Why do I watch? I watch because every show has the potential to be the best ever, and I'll be damned if I miss that after dealing with so much crap recently.”

And... well, it has been getting better. Sure, I'd like to see Triple H out of the spotlight too, but I haven't seen him humping mannequins recently, have you? Remember when Chris Jericho couldn't get a spot on a pay-per-view to save his life? He's now getting more time on RAW than just about anyone. The Booker T/Goldust tag-team combination remains the most consistently excellent part of RAW. (Had to love Booker doing the “sss... hyeh!” Goldust thing... I laughed for about three minutes.) And wait just a moment... did I just say... three minutes? That Van Terminator tonight was wicked! I get a rush every time I see it.

I was entertained by RAW tonight as well, and that doesn't make me blind, stupid, or an ignorant HHH mark. Go back and read some of my posts, you'll know that I'm not a fan of Triple H, but I do give the man credit when he deserves it. And I'll probably get my smark card revoked for this, but I've been entertained by Shawn Michaels since his return, as well. (Although I did find it funny that Triple H looked worried about the third fall-- yeah, Michaels helped make the ladder match famous at WrestleMania X, but he lost that match to Scott Hall.)

So, I liked RAW, and if that makes me a real fucking moron, well... I've never claimed to be anything but. That's why I'm a charter member of the Real Fucking Moron Club, after all. Vote ekedolphin for RFMC President today.
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#36 Posted on 9.12.02 2313.05
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...pops? You mean girls screeching for Hardy? If you could hear one masculine cheer of support, then more power to you. And those of you who complain and moan about HHH, wow. Blindness and ignorance really ARE cripplers, I hate to see how you'd react if a wrestling genius like Booker T. Punch, punch, chop, kick. OOH WOW!!! Hypocrites....

Fuel, what, they can't BUILD UP their PPV? HBK is going soon, yes, and he needs to be milked before he truly runs out of gas. "But why HHH? He's already..." Yes, we know, he is very credible. But just imagine RVD, Booker defeating a HHH that took out both Foley AND HBK. You think they don't plan for months, but they DO. The HBK/HHH storyline is the cornerstone of RAW right now. Why the hell would they just drop it, to "not bury" RVD? And it was mentioned elsewhere, RVD was hardly buried. If you can hear fans stop cheering for him, fine, he's been buried. His character took no strong hits, he's still a credible threat, and they increase Batista's image as well. Or did you forget they're pushing this new guy, too, in your rage against HHH?

EDIT: ::Votes for ekedolphin::

(edited by BoromirMark on 10.12.02 0015)
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#37 Posted on 9.12.02 2322.17
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It shouldn't be the cornerstone of RAW, that's the problem. Don't you get that HHH is never going to pass on all this credibility to make someone else? It's never gonna happen.

Everytime RVD gets "thisclose" and gets treated like a nothing jobber only to return to the midcard, it hurts him. It won't kill him but it hurts him bad. He never gets his revenge.
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#38 Posted on 9.12.02 2324.19
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    Originally posted by BoromirMark
    ...pops? You mean girls screeching for Hardy? If you could hear one masculine cheer of support, then more power to you.



The point isn't WHO was cheering for Jeff, the point was that the only wrestler who got a reaction from the audience during the match was Jeff. Consider this, Jeff SIX FEET UNDER Hardy was getting a better reaction than the man who is going to become the champion, does this seem right?

EDIT: Well they certainly were booing him out of the arena weren't they? Oh wait.

(edited by Underwater on 10.12.02 0032)
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#39 Posted on 9.12.02 2325.17
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Really? It's never gonna happen? Wow. I never knew you were such a backstage authority. How much does the WWF pay you? Which brand's writing staff are you on, or are you Vince's secretary yourself, fuel? RVD is never always buried, he's being continually built up. You put the belt on him now, great, but you've just lost BUYRATES. Buyrates you'll need when your current list of top draws, and lo and behold HHH is one of them, steps down. RVD isn't going to be 50, and retired overnight. And neither will the WWF shoot their wad, because a bunch of HHHaters want to see RVD win.

EDIT: Better reaction, Underwater? I didn't know we were supposed to cheer heels.

(edited by BoromirMark on 10.12.02 0027)
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#40 Posted on 9.12.02 2329.11
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Well, there is two ways you can look at the HHH thing.

1. HHH being this much of a jerk in and out of the ring is WWE going to websites and planting these stories, so when HHH does fail, the guy who beats him will be a main eventer for life. Plus, the HBK/HHH is interesting for the student vs. teacher play and both do get pops. So, it makes sense to push HHH passed HBK liked they did with him and Mick. So, when that superstar who has a future comes along and beats HHH, it will be a major event. Thus, ending HHH's reign on top.

2. HHH is this much of an asshole and Vince has lost his fucking mind.

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