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The 7 - Pro Wrestling - Where is the evil?
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#1 Posted on 8.12.02 2104.47
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One of the constants from wrestling for years was the presence of a truly evil character. one who messed with peoples psyche and was equally compelling in his attacks on opponents. whether you beat them in a match was irrelevant to them, they could still reek havoc with you until they chose not to.

For the longest time in the WWF, the undertaker was the mainstay for the evil incarnate, even when he was a face. he brought a sense of foreboding that was undeniable. you saw it in his opponents faces, face or heel, they all got scared.
Then there was Mankind, the first to take the mantle from the undertaker in 10 years as the really sick and twisted individual. he was evil in that he was different enought from the undertaker to bring evil into the attitude era. He squealed and pulled out his hair, where the taker was silent and calculating. Taker felt no pain where Mankind seemed to enjoy it. Taker was tall and dark where Manking was wide, shorter and deranged. Also mick foleys ability to cut promos on opponents where the taker preferred the silent treatment seperated them and made them both crediblein the aftermath.

Then all of a sudden they both lost the evil. it didn't matter much at the time, we'd all had our fill of it. Raven was a little deranged for a while but he never reached the levels that Taker and Manking reached, although he could've (and still might).
Now it seems that the evil presence would make a good adddition to RAW. it's all bad asses and smart asses. only the Hurricane and a few others like Goldust and Booker T are completely seperate from the masses. right now would be a good time to introduce a new character element into the show and i think the return of Raen to play with the mins of his opponents would fill that spot nicely. If not Raven then who do you reckon could pull this off enough to make a compelling character out of it. Or do you see anothe relement that Raw needs before a darker presence
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#2 Posted on 8.12.02 2212.58
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Victoria & Steven Richards should step up the evil/psycho factor.

Someone needs to redo Raven's smiling while passing out in the Crossface spot.
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#3 Posted on 8.12.02 2251.13
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*starts to say something, then changes mind*

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#4 Posted on 9.12.02 0148.14
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With Vince McMahon emphasizing on realism, we won't be seeing anything really EEEEEEVIL! Hell, we don't even get Kaientai anymore, though I do like Funaki's new role as Smackdown #1 announcer.

You want evil? Go to NWA:TNA where James "Sinister Minister" Mitchell is filling the evil quotient nicely.

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#5 Posted on 9.12.02 0249.24
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Damn you, It's False, for beating me to the Kaientai reference.
Indeeeeeeeed!
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#6 Posted on 9.12.02 1049.38
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Where is the evil? Main eventing Raw with Shawn Michaels.

*ducks*
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#7 Posted on 9.12.02 1051.40
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    Originally posted by A-MOL
    Where is the evil? Main eventing Raw with Shawn Michaels.

    *ducks*



See, I KNEW I wouldn't have to make the joke...

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#8 Posted on 9.12.02 1308.20
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    Originally posted by PowerPB13

      Originally posted by A-MOL
      Where is the evil? Main eventing Raw with Shawn Michaels.

      *ducks*



    See, I KNEW I wouldn't have to make the joke...

    -Patrick

Patrick, you were doing soooo well -- I'm very proud of you. :-)
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#9 Posted on 9.12.02 1706.43
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WWE is content with pussifying their darker and more intense competitors. Raven, Tajiri, Dudleys, Kane, and DAVE Batista among others. Tazz is a comedian. Dreamer had to eat hair just to get airtime. Even Scott Steiner seems to just be reciting catch phrases. I dread what they'll do to Rhyno if he ever comes back.

The creative staff is the industries version of Ritalin: they really take the edge off.
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#10 Posted on 10.12.02 0917.53
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If all does not go well for B&G at the PPV and Goldust ends up turning on Booker, I wouldn't be surprised to see him drop the funny stuff and do the only thing this would allow him to stay over: transform into Super Evil Goldust, reaching levels of sick evil depravity previously unheard of in the world of sports entertainment.

That's what I think.
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#11 Posted on 10.12.02 0924.46
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But hopefully that's not going to happen, and everything does go well for BookDust as they become tag-team champions of the world.

Anything else would be uncivilized and unacceptable.
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#12 Posted on 10.12.02 1011.50
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Like someone mentioned, I don't think they can accomplish that same pure evil character these days and yet hang onto the realism at the same time. We've talked about it before, the fans of today want characters who are multileveled, not just one pure gimmick. What some people call pussified, others would call depth of character.

Honestly, I think the most "evil" character today is Paul Heyman. Think about it, Paul basically manipulated Brock Lesnar into destroying people for his enjoyment. Then as soon as Brock starting thinking on his own, Paul turned on him and had him destroyed by another person who he was/is able to manipulate.

He may not be physical evil like Taker used to be, but he is one of the most conniving, manipulative characters on either show today. I think most fans would consider him to be an evil character, only looking out for his own interests and protecting himself.
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