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The 7 - Pro Wrestling - The Man ORIGINALLY Slated to Take Out Rey Rey
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#21 Posted on 9.12.02 0635.57
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An Albert-Taker feud? Oh God.

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#22 Posted on 9.12.02 0653.07
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    As we reported earlier this week, the push given to Albert on Smackdown last week, to take out Rey Mysterio and feud with Edge, was originally intended for Matt Hardy.

    Paul Heyman had written the angle so that whoever took out Rey would provide a built in opponent for Rey upon his return from the knee surgery.

    However, Vince McMahon instead used the situation to build up Albert, who he envisions as the next opponent for the Undertaker when Taker returns to action in early 2003.

    Instead of viewing Rey as a star, and this situation as a star making possibility for a good worker like Matt Hardy, it is said that Vince only is using this situation to make the Undertaker stronger when he is back.

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This does fit in with other stories I have heard about Vince and Rey. A few months back, Heyman had to fight him to have Rey vs Angle vs Benoit as the main event for a Smackdown episode.

I'm sure Rey will be back to his 'natural level' soon - 3 minute cruiserweight matches and, every so often, Hoss fodder.
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#23 Posted on 9.12.02 0714.22
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No wonder WWE is losing viewers. It's one thing for Albert instead of Matt to get the rub from Rey's injury, it's another for using Rey's injury as a way for setting up Albert as Undertaker's next opponent. What are they thinking? What does Undertaker has to do with Rey? How does injuring Rey leads back to the Undertaker?

So instead of forsaking one elevation in favor of another, two elevations are prevented and nobody wins. I'm not a fan of Albert but Undertaker should be elevating other wrestlers right now, not the other way around.

And they wonder why things are the way they are.

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#24 Posted on 9.12.02 0751.02
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Anybody else notice that Matt Hardy's push has died since he posted a pretty level-headed and down-to-earth commentary regarding the IWC, unlike Chris Jericho and Bradshaw, who chose to completely bash the internet whatsoever? Hmmmm...
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#25 Posted on 9.12.02 0818.41
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This move has GOT to be one of the more stupid ones WWE has made in a while, and that IS saying something. A V1/Edge feud would have done that ultra-rare thing: elevated both guys. Instead, we get a no-talent freak like Albert dominating TV and then feuding with the Undertaker when he returns.

Thanks for playing, Smackdown.
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#26 Posted on 9.12.02 0827.55
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    Originally posted by GRL
    This move has GOT to be one of the more stupid ones WWE has made in a while, and that IS saying something. A V1/Edge feud would have done that ultra-rare thing: elevated both guys. Instead, we get a no-talent freak like Albert dominating TV and then feuding with the Undertaker when he returns.

    Thanks for playing, Smackdown.






So, they will use Rey and Edge to build up Albert, only to feed him to Taker? If this is correct, this might be the dumbest move Vince has made since the re-elevation of Taker to main event status following Mania in 2001. Or the re-elevation of Taker following Mania in 2002. Looking at the numbers over the past few years, Taker has been a far greater detriment than Trip has, as his rebirth into a main eventer coincided with the beginning of the decline. On the bright side, this will lead to that 5 star classic rematch from mania in '96 at this years mania when Taker faces Nash.
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#27 Posted on 9.12.02 0907.31
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I gotta be honest, I like Albert and all, but even I gotta admit that Matt Hardy would have been a far better choice.

That doesn't mean I'm gonna start shitting all over the Edge/Albert feud before its gotten anywhere mind you...
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#28 Posted on 9.12.02 1234.59
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    Paul London did rock the house on Velocity. The dropkicks were cool, even though they were used a bit too many times. But the Springboard Shooting Star Press is what I really liked. He probably was an indy guy that we will never see again.

You can check him out in Ring of Honor (if it's carried where you are). He trained at HBK's school, so he does have an "in" at the WWE.
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#29 Posted on 9.12.02 1251.30
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    Originally posted by redsoxnation

      Originally posted by GRL
      This move has GOT to be one of the more stupid ones WWE has made in a while, and that IS saying something. A V1/Edge feud would have done that ultra-rare thing: elevated both guys. Instead, we get a no-talent freak like Albert dominating TV and then feuding with the Undertaker when he returns.

      Thanks for playing, Smackdown.






    So, they will use Rey and Edge to build up Albert, only to feed him to Taker? If this is correct, this might be the dumbest move Vince has made since the re-elevation of Taker to main event status following Mania in 2001. Or the re-elevation of Taker following Mania in 2002. Looking at the numbers over the past few years, Taker has been a far greater detriment than Trip has, as his rebirth into a main eventer coincided with the beginning of the decline. On the bright side, this will lead to that 5 star classic rematch from mania in '96 at this years mania when Taker faces Nash.




(I couldn't resist piling on)

Why would they be priming up Albert for a feud with Taker? So Albert can go over? Fuck no. Albert could be his supervisor at Wal-Mart and Taker still wouldn't do a job for him.

My question is this: How much "stronger" do they have to make Taker? He's always legitimately viewed as a contender to the title, someone who the marks believe could beat any other wrestler at any given time, why does he have to destroy yet another young talent? Why not let someone else whose name isn't Brock Lesnar get a fucking rub? Taker is a black hole that young up-and-comers disappear into.

And for the love of Christ, if someone's gonna get a rub, it doesn't deserve to be Albert. They could dress him in a leather outfit and zipper mask, have him come out to the Pulp Fiction music and let him say "Bring out the gimp," and he still wouldn't draw a reaction

Matt Hardy had the potential to be one of the hottest heels in the company, and now he's Velocity fodder. Yes, he's not very big and yes, his eyes are a little too close together, but dammit, the kid's been working on his character and he deserves a push.

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#30 Posted on 9.12.02 1313.40
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Yes.

I really like Albert! But I do find it a bit weird when he was getting beaten by guys like Funaki and John Cena, and now he is crushing Rey Rey-- similar story with TBS getting the title and all.

But let's face it. Matt, Edge and RMJ all have visible stomach muscles. Why would we want to see them feud? That's not PPV fodder! {note inherent sarcasm before sending me endless flames, assuming you actually read this post}

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#31 Posted on 9.12.02 1318.41
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I try not to take everything I read on the net as gospel, but if this is true then it really is one of the worst booking decisions I've seen in a long time (Katie Vick not withstanding).

Presumably they'll now have Albert go over Edge so that he can be seen as a threat to the returning Taker. Edge can probably afford a loss but to Albert? A guy most of us ain't seen more than 15 minutes of in the past month?

And then having given Albert this monster push they then feed him to a guy who was last seen going toe to toe with Brock over two ppv main events and who most of us would still see as a legitimate contender if he spent a month jobbing to Justin Credible and Mark Henry.

Oh i swore to myself I wouldnt judge angles before they were played out but this is just flat out awful. I really wish I could have some of whatever Vince is snortin to make the pain go away
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#32 Posted on 9.12.02 1716.39
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I thought seeing Matt on velocty was rather odd. Well, I always thought Alberts future lied in bein a Mattistooge. Hopefully, we'll see a Matt-albert vs Edge-rey feud.

Taker should start a feud with Tony Chimel.
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#33 Posted on 9.12.02 1815.45
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Does anyone else remember when Vince had the balls to get rid of dead weight like Albert and Taker when they were done? Anyone?


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#34 Posted on 9.12.02 1939.25
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    And for the love of Christ, if someone's gonna get a rub, it doesn't deserve to be Albert. They could dress him in a leather outfit and zipper mask, have him come out to the Pulp Fiction music and let him say "Bring out the gimp," and he still wouldn't draw a reaction/


Well, if there was anything that actually would get Albert over....

Let's look at the bright side of things. If Albert and the Undertaker are feuding with each other, that means they're not burying anyone else, right? Sigh...Albert blows.
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#35 Posted on 11.12.02 0027.25
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After two pages of "Matt was screwed" I'll take the other route.

Contrary to (apparently) popular opinion, it would make NO sense for Matt to take out Rey.

Matt's gimmick (which is a VERY good one) is that he's cockier than hell and thinks that he's better than he is (as evidenced by his "wins" over Undertaker). And he's more than willing to preach his strong points to anyone who will listen (Shannon Moore), despite the fact that in reality, he's really just an over confident Jobber.

So where in the HELL would he get the sudden ability to knock out Misterio? That's completely against his gimmick. And people complain about RAW'S writing not making sense. That's like people suddenly wanting Benoit to get suddenly get pushed out of nowhere to be be Brock's job boy a few months ago.

Mattitude is a joke, and everybody gets it but Matt. That's the gimmick.

Albert, like him or not, is a big, mean-looking guy. Yes, Rey can hang with big guys, but the arc of the story is that Albert is big, and willing to cheapshot Rey in order to take him out. Which is exactly what happened.

Is it credible? Yeah, why not. It makes more sense for Alber to be doing it than Matt, anyway. And now Edge has an opponent for Armageddon and Rey has time off. And Matt, is still a joke. Which has worked well for him so far.
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#36 Posted on 11.12.02 0104.48
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Excalibur, three words: Honky Tonk Man.

He was a joke too, a shitty Elvis impersonator. Couldn't sing a lick, but he thought he had the number one hit single in the country. And he still cracked people over the heads with guitars and won matches. Lots of them. He was also a great heel.
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#37 Posted on 11.12.02 0109.59
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    Originally posted by Excalibur05
    After two pages of "Matt was screwed" I'll take the other route.

    Contrary to (apparently) popular opinion, it would make NO sense for Matt to take out Rey.

    Matt's gimmick (which is a VERY good one) is that he's cockier than hell and thinks that he's better than he is (as evidenced by his "wins" over Undertaker). And he's more than willing to preach his strong points to anyone who will listen (Shannon Moore), despite the fact that in reality, he's really just an over confident Jobber.

    So where in the HELL would he get the sudden ability to knock out Misterio? That's completely against his gimmick. And people complain about RAW'S writing not making sense. That's like people suddenly wanting Benoit to get suddenly get pushed out of nowhere to be be Brock's job boy a few months ago.

    Mattitude is a joke, and everybody gets it but Matt. That's the gimmick.

    Albert, like him or not, is a big, mean-looking guy. Yes, Rey can hang with big guys, but the arc of the story is that Albert is big, and willing to cheapshot Rey in order to take him out. Which is exactly what happened.

    Is it credible? Yeah, why not. It makes more sense for Alber to be doing it than Matt, anyway. And now Edge has an opponent for Armageddon and Rey has time off. And Matt, is still a joke. Which has worked well for him so far.



So what's wrong with this:
Matt goes in against Rey over confident. However, he keeps getting caught with near falls and gets increasingly frustrated. He then CHEATS TO WIN, but still pissed off, beats the crap out of Rey with a chair.
That's in character and pushes Matt up the card and away just from being a comedy character.
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#38 Posted on 11.12.02 0137.18
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Matt is a joke but taking out Rey would help provide the substance for his delusion. People would say, hey this Matt is really full of himself but he did take out Rey. He did beat this guy, he did this and that, etc. That turns him into a true heel instead of a comedic opening match act.
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