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#21 Posted on 26.11.02 0051.04
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No John Locke? I guess revolutionary ideas about liberty, government, and idealism won't get you as far as someone in TAKE THAT! Count me in the "Baffled to not see Disraeli" camp as well.
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#22 Posted on 26.11.02 0233.35
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    Originally posted by Stephanie

      Originally posted by NickBockwinkelFan
      I know I'm a huge mark, but where's Jon Pertwee or Tom Baker?


    It's nice to see I wasn't the only one looking for former Doctors in the list. Given what a varied group this list turned out to be, I would have expected Baker to be on the list.

    Steph



Alas, here lies the fickle nature of the British nation. We love someone, be it Benny Hill, Tom Baker or the Spice Girls, we let them in, redefine us and then, once popularity wanes, unlike the American's who send them off to Celebrity Squares, we point and laugh at how foolish they were for doing their work and how foolish we were to watch it.

Doctor Who, which scared a nation of children who are now between 25 and 40, is seen as pathetic low-budget sci-fi over here. Let's forget the fact it was actually a ground breaking programme for the BBC, let's just laugh at the creatures like the Liquorice Allsorts Man.
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#23 Posted on 26.11.02 0411.27
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No Oscar Wilde?

Turing's pretty low for what he did too. Not only is he probably as responsible (or more) for the outcome of WWII as Churchill, but we wouldn't have the computers to bitch about this with without him either.
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#24 Posted on 26.11.02 0943.15
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No Arthur Conan Doyle.

No DOUGLAS ADAMS.
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#25 Posted on 26.11.02 1246.59
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    Originally posted by Grimis

      Originally posted by MoeGates
      Ladies and Gentlemen, the 100 greatest Americans ever.

      #1 - Abraham Linclon
      #2 - Martin Luther King Jr.
      #3 - Albert Einstein
      #4 - Eminem
      #5 - George Washington
      #6 - Michael Jordan
      #7 - Thomas Jefferson
      #8 - John F. Kennedy
      #9 - Tupac Shakur
      #10 - Tiget Woods



    No, depending on the day of the week and how much the media manipulated it, the list of Americans would wind up like this

    # 1 John F Kennedy
    # 2 Jesse Jackson
    # 3 Alec Baldwin
    # 4 Al Sharpton
    # 5 Barbara Streisand
    # 6 LBJ
    # 7 Barry Bonds
    # 8 Eugene Debs
    # 9 Michael Jackson
    # 10 Rally Monkey




That's the stupidest thing you've ever posted.
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#26 Posted on 26.11.02 1337.39
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    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
    That's the stupidest thing you've ever posted.


It's hard to try and operate at your level...
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#27 Posted on 26.11.02 1410.53
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    Originally posted by Grimis

      Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
      That's the stupidest thing you've ever posted.


    It's hard to try and operate at your level...




I would love to read any PM's you two write to each other.

I'm no Guru, but you guys need to lighten up on each other. Of course, it would be great if you two disappeared for a week, then reappeared and swerved us by revealing that you two are best friends and both in the Green Party.
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#28 Posted on 26.11.02 2220.51
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    Originally posted by Torchslasher

      Originally posted by Grimis

        Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
        That's the stupidest thing you've ever posted.


      It's hard to try and operate at your level...




    I would love to read any PM's you two write to each other.

    I'm no Guru, but you guys need to lighten up on each other. Of course, it would be great if you two disappeared for a week, then reappeared and swerved us by revealing that you two are best friends and both in the Green Party.



You wanna know what the saddest part is? In the grand scheme of things, I *like* Grimis.

EDIT: But, yeah, I apologize. That was just a joke, I'm sure, and it's wrong to take something someone says in jest to try to make a point and accept it at face value.

(edited by OlFuzzyBastard on 26.11.02 2322)
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#29 Posted on 27.11.02 0519.42
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I can only shudder to think what our "Greatest Canadians" list would be like. Wayne Gretzky would undoubtedly make the top three.
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#30 Posted on 27.11.02 0550.38
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    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
    You wanna know what the saddest part is? In the grand scheme of things, I *like* Grimis.


And I like OFB; he never lets me down by always making my point for me.

Just kidding....or am I?!?!?
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#31 Posted on 27.11.02 1000.58
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    Originally posted by Grimis

      Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
      You wanna know what the saddest part is? In the grand scheme of things, I *like* Grimis.


    And I like OFB; he never lets me down by always making my point for me.

    Just kidding....or am I?!?!?



Could we be witnessing the beginninig of a Carville-Matalin thing going on here? (image removed)
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#32 Posted on 27.11.02 1017.20
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    Originally posted by Bizzle Izzle

      Originally posted by Grimis

        Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
        You wanna know what the saddest part is? In the grand scheme of things, I *like* Grimis.


      And I like OFB; he never lets me down by always making my point for me.

      Just kidding....or am I?!?!?



    Could we be witnessing the beginninig of a Carville-Matalin thing going on here? (image removed)




I'm pretty sure OlFuzzy has more hair than Chrome-dome. And Grimis is probably better looking than Matalin (couldn't resist).
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#33 Posted on 27.11.02 1104.51
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Ah- this is what happens when you let the media-enslaved masses vote-
In America- Eminem, Bill Clinton, Britany Spears, and Vin Diesel would all be on the list. If you truely want to make it a good list, you have to add the restriction that they have to have died at some point 20 years ago or more-
Of course most people who vote on these things have no clue what happened 5 years ago, let alone 20, so therein lies the problem.
My #1 Greatest American of all time would have to be Ben Franklin...
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#34 Posted on 27.11.02 1122.58
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Yep, that's a messed-up list.

But as it has been pointed out, no list voted on by the general public is going to reflect anything more than public perception of ``importance'' at any given point in time.

The politicians and war heros are to be expected. Churchill was in many ways not to be looked up to (ditto for Nelson, etc., but the men who make war really well often don't deal well when there's no wars to fight), but in the context of this century he may be one of the most important people worldwide.

I was rather disturbed to note not a single philosopher with Calvin, Hobbes, Locke, etc. all available.

Not a whole lot of love available for books, either. Not only was there no Oscar Wilde, no Douglas Adams, no Samuel Pepys, and no Thomas Hardy, even Britain's best-selling living author, Terry Pratchett, is absent. One wonders whether Tolkien would have made it without the benefit of the LOTR movies.

The absence of the Pythons is only conspicuous due to the presence of other ``entertainers.'' If it had all been politicos and war heros and such, one could potentially excuse it. And how can you put several footballers on there and yet leave cricket entirely out in the cold?

And if you're going to put King Arthur on there, Morgaine's gotta get some props, yo
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#35 Posted on 27.11.02 1442.47
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Ya, no W. G. Grace is appaling!
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#36 Posted on 28.11.02 0628.00
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    Originally posted by tarnish
    Not a whole lot of love available for books, either. Not only was there no Oscar Wilde, no Douglas Adams, no Samuel Pepys, and no Thomas Hardy, even Britain's best-selling living author, Terry Pratchett, is absent. One wonders whether Tolkien would have made it without the benefit of the LOTR movies



Hey, JK Rowling is in the list so we must love authors!!!!!!!!
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