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#1 Posted on 20.11.02 2310.21
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Here's an interesting subject to bring up. As Tough Enough 3 winds down, I think it's time to take a look at Tough Enough alumni and see how far they have come in their WWE tenures (if any).

Maven- Shows a great work ethic. He fucked himself up in a match and still managed to finish up, which takes a lot of guts. He's slowly been expanding his moveset on each outing, which impresses me, because it shows the guy's willing to learn. If he can get back on track, the guy will be a star and his feud with Chris Harvard should be VERY fun to watch!

Nidia- The female Tough Enough winner has spent more time as a valet for Jamie Noble, but has excelled in her role. It's also been said that Nidia is VERY eager to learn more about the business and spends her time brushing up on her wrestling, which is a great attitude to have. She'll also be very big someday.

Christopher Nowinski- I <3 Chris Harvard! He's been consistently entertaining since making his debut on Raw and makes a great heel! Questionable wrestling ability, but that's never stopped anybody before. I believe his feud with Maven is one of those feuds that will end up elevating both participants, much like the feud between Rocky and Triple H did.

Josh Matthews- Was signed away from TNA, but hasn't been used at all as a wrestler. He's been put on the production aspect of WWE and it was apparently his own choice. Hey, if he can make a buck without going the Jeff Hardy route, more power to him.

Linda Miles- I think WWE would just like to forget that Tough Enough 2 ever existed. The Torch reports that OVW officials aren't impressed with Linda. They say she is regarded as a great athlete, but reportedly doesn’t do her homework or watch videos. She's no Nidia.

Jackie Gayda- Oh dear Lord! WWE's wishing they had this one back. Ever since that infamous trainwreck of a "match" a few months ago on Raw, Jackie's been sent to OVW. But Jim Cornette isn't a miracle worker. The Torch is reporting that resident hot tub ho is considered a total flop who doesn’t understand anything about the wrestling business. Kenny and Jake got passed up for THIS?!

Matt Morgan- Bet you forgot about him, huh? He was the Tough Enough 2 guy who got knocked out early due to injury, but was apparently so impressive that he was signed to a developmental deal. Not sure about him, but if anybody's been watching OVW, I'd love to hear about his status. I'm curious about this one.

So those are our Tough Enough alumni. The question I'm posing is this: Has WWE really done themselves any favors with Tough Enough? And what are your thoughts on the Tough Enough alumni?
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#2 Posted on 20.11.02 2334.11
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In the end, thay got at least three decent wrestlers, and Tough Enough's drawing of good ratings helps keep Heat on MTV, and I like Heat alot for what it is. At this point, the ends justify the means. The only real bad things to come out of the program were one awful match and a couple crappy segments, all courtesy of Jackie. In return we recieved NIDIA~! I just wish Vince would realize that he doesn't need to immediately push the winners to make it looks like the program works, though.
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#3 Posted on 21.11.02 0010.31
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You forgot the "alumnus" I consider to be the best wrestler (and best-looking) of the bunch: Taylor Matheny, whose WWE debut is WAY overdue.

And for the one millionth time, lay off Jackie Gayda already. The girl has one bad match (which was half Trish's fault, by the way) and to this day Weiners piss all over themselves bringing it up. Enough!

Male wrestlers blow spots BADLY all the time and no one says a thing. Christ, RVD almost KILLED Hunter on the PPV and people aren't exactly up in arms over it. Yet here we are almost a year later and people are still wringing their hands over rookie Gayda's supposedly "awful" match. Give it a bloody rest.



(edited by shea on 20.11.02 2214)
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#4 Posted on 21.11.02 0018.27
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That Jackie Gayda sure is bad! Remember when the phantom bulldog hit her?????

We CAN go on and on about this. No match in recent memory had ever EVER been this bad. We can't lay blame on Trish for this one. Maybe you should revisit the match. Trish did everything within her power. The bottom line was Gayda was not ready for this match and it showed (oh God, did it ever show).
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#5 Posted on 21.11.02 0027.25
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    Originally posted by shea
    You forgot the "alumnus" I consider to be the best wrestler (and best-looking) of the bunch: Taylor Matheny, whose WWE debut is WAY overdue.

    And for the one millionth time, lay off Jackie Gayda already. The girl has one bad match (which was half Trish's fault, by the way) and to this day Weiners piss all over themselves bringing it up. Enough!

    Male wrestlers blow spots BADLY all the time and no one says a thing. Christ, RVD almost KILLED Hunter on the PPV and people aren't exactly up in arms over it. Yet here we are almost a year later and people are still wringing their hands over rookie Gayda's supposedly "awful" match. Give it a bloody rest.



    (edited by shea on 20.11.02 2214)



the reason people shit on her was that the men who lost the contest were better than her, one of the winners...but she has better tits then them, so she won out...
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#6 Posted on 21.11.02 0037.13
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Jackie was a lock to win from TE2 from the get go, and anyone who knows anything about wrestling should know that. "After not even QUALIFYING for Tough Enough 1, she WINS Tough Enough 2," I could hear Jim Ross saying that as soon as she qualified, and you had to be a fool to think anyone else was walking out a winner.

Plus she had the sex with that guy in the hot tub... I think she was definitely the most intersting character on the show that season, and THAT'S why she got the job. Now they're stuck with her, but outside of being a valet a la Nidia, I don't think she'll be near a WWE ring again.

Kenny WUZ robbed though. That guy could SELL like a mofo.
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#7 Posted on 21.11.02 0049.40
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    Originally posted by shea
    You forgot the "alumnus" I consider to be the best wrestler (and best-looking) of the bunch: Taylor Matheny, whose WWE debut is WAY overdue.(edited by shea on 20.11.02 2214)


Agreed! At the time, I thought Taylor should have won, but Nidia did a great job in winning me over. That brings me to this scenario...

What if Nidia were to turn face and WWE then brings in Taylor as a Sable-like prissy heel to feud with her? Sounds like a winning feud to me!
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#8 Posted on 21.11.02 0058.48
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Go watch a backyard wrestling video and then tell me that the Jackie Gayda match was the worst you've seen recently. (Yeah, you can make the case that those guys aren't in the WWE but the point is that Jackie could have done much, much worse.)

As for Jackie being a shoo-in to win TE2 from the beginning. I'd be willing to guarantee that if Matt hadn't hurt his knee, he would have been one of the winners. I noticed yesterday that OVW is billing Matt at 7' tall. Does that mean he's grown 4" since the TE2 casting special?

I'd love to see Taylor in the WWE to but I read an interview where she talked about working in Japan and everything she'd learned over there and in the indys and it sounds like she'd make a majority of the WWE women look bad.

As for Nowinski, I can't wait for him to make his way to the main event scene just so he can feud with Chris Jericho and we can hear Y2J claim to be the only WWE superstar to have graduated from Harvard twice. I can hear it now... "Everybody makes such a big deal out of Chris Nowinski being the first ever Harvard graduate in the WWE. Well, I wanted to see just how hard it really was, so I stopped by Harvard last week and earned 2 degrees, so you're looking at the only 2 time Harvard graduate in WWE history."
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#9 Posted on 21.11.02 0717.33
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Taylor and Chris Nowinski were both at Wrestlemania FanFest working with the Tough Enough crew in demonstrations. Taylor mentioned afterward (while signing autographs) that she is always talking to the WWE, and that something may happen in the future.

Of course, since then, Nowinski has gone prime time, so there's the good possibility that Taylor will follow.
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#10 Posted on 21.11.02 0822.32
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I like Nidia and all, but I think Taylor should've been picked. I guess because of that night Taylor was drunk or something.

Speaking of Tough Enough alumni, has Hawk done anything since the end of TEII?
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#11 Posted on 21.11.02 0834.27
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Taylor didn't win because she just wasn't good looking.


A plain jane with zero charisma. End of story.
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#12 Posted on 21.11.02 0906.44
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    Originally posted by Iron Mike Sharpe
    Taylor didn't win because she just wasn't good looking.


    A plain jane with zero charisma. End of story.



Now I understand that you enjoy your life as a gimmick poster, and I laugh at some of your "posts," but you are insane. Nidia is nowhere as good looking as Taylor. I also thought Taylor showed plenty of charisma on Tough Enough. It's time for IMS to go back to the gimmick well and come up with less asinine statements.
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#13 Posted on 21.11.02 0916.05
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I thought Taylor was damn good looking, and she could go in the ring. I was shocked Nidia won. I thought Taylor was much better all around. This is nothing against Nidia. She has turned into a very good performer for someoone with such limited experience. She is perfect in her role right now.
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#14 Posted on 21.11.02 0927.37
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One thing to remember about the whole Taylor/Nidia thing. More than likely, the WWE edited the final couple of episodes to make Taylor look better than Nidia so that when Nidia was picked it would look like an upset and people would be talkig about it. That way they might be able to get some early vibe going for the next TE.

I agree with everyone else about the TE2 choices. They have to be kicking themselves over that mistake. It makes me believe that the 'right' people are going to picked with TE3.

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#15 Posted on 21.11.02 1021.00
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    Originally posted by InVerse
    Go watch a backyard wrestling video and then tell me that the Jackie Gayda match was the worst you've seen recently.


I think that's the worst argument I've ever seen on this board. And there are lots and lots of really bad ones.
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#16 Posted on 21.11.02 1037.08
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I found Nidia much more attractive than Taylor and, taking into account my unusual and generally unpopular taste in women, that indicates that Taylor must've really been much more attractive, right?

Just to be a nitpicking asshole, they also hired Jessie from Tough Enough II, but she's an administrative assistant somewhere in Titan Towers, so that probably doesn't count for anything. Still...

Linda was a completely justified choice, considering the girl oozed charisma, and could've really filled the "hot black chick" void the WWE has always been so desperately missing. (To the point where they've actually tried to convince us that Jacqueline is attractive.)

And they picked Jackie not only because she looks the part and has WWE Diva written all over her, but because she worked the last two weeks of training with a bum knee, even though the doctors told her not to. I promise you, that's what pushed her over the edge. In retrospect, it probably was a bad choice, but I probably would've made the same bad choice.
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#17 Posted on 21.11.02 1043.21
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    Originally posted by InVerse
    Go watch a backyard wrestling video and then tell me that the Jackie Gayda match was the worst you've seen recently. (Yeah, you can make the case that those guys aren't in the WWE but the point is that Jackie could have done much, much worse.)


    I agree with Salami, but would like to elaborate just a little.

    A) I've never watched a backyard wrestling video because that is not wrestling. I also don't want to encourage backyard wrestlers by viewing their tapes, because simply, from what I've heard and from the clips I've seen on news reports, backyard wrestling makes true "garbage wrestling" seem like Olympic greco-roman wrestling in comparison.

    B) Once you're paid for performing an activity, you become a professional, and are thus held to higher standards than amateurs. Does that mean that Pittsburgh Steeler fans should be happy with Kordell Stewart because he is obviously a better football player than the neighborhood kids playing in someone's back yard?

    C) The opening post mentioned that the TE2 divas are reported to be not doing well in OVW, so at least some of us are under the impression that others think their skills are lacking as well, and are not basing our opinions on one match only.
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#18 Posted on 21.11.02 1124.31
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Rudoublesedoublel. that Kordell Stewart comment hurts, but its true, myf friend, its damn true. The problem I see with Linda and Jackie are two different sides of the coin. Linda, at the time, was a great choice and an obvious one since she was the hardest working lady and had a ton of charisma. Unfortuantly, her work ethic is lacking and thats not the WWE's fault thats her fault. She has potential, but she is waisting it and the WWE's time. As for Jackie, this was a bad choice. Its bad when even the people announcing the winner turn to JR and go, "Does Vince know about this?"
I think Jackie was chosen, because she got the show into the Real World enviroment that MTV wants. Even though Real World has been a ratings loser for the last four years. It also made the WWE look like good guys, because if she wasn't chosen, people would have said they used Jackie's personal life and she got nothing in return. Granted, I wouldn't say that, but you know others would have such as Jackie's Mom and probably would sue over it.

I like Tough Enough, because they are at least trying to cut down the drama on the show and make it more of a real contest. Granted, the brunnette whore, sorry I don't know her name, this season, makes it really hard to justify that, but its kinda hard not to put it on TV when she is just flaunting it everywhere. I think the WWE has been down this road with Jackie and the brunette will not be around for final cut. The drama is good for the middle of the season to add a bit of intrigue, but at the end it should be the people busting their ass that get the contract. As of now, I'd say Scott may get it. Scott maybe a fuck-up, but he is willing to put it on the line and I respect that. However Jonah and the martial arts kids are probably going to be the choices which is fine since either have charisma and talent. The WWE has to realize their best crop was TE1, because the interest was high, so if they can sign the entire cast it would a goo idea. Taylor will probably be a good addition to the Maven/Chris fued and trade Nidia over to even out. I trust all four of these kids in the ring and they should put on amazing matches.

A Fan- I'd pick Taylor first too, but Nidia has blown me away.
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#19 Posted on 21.11.02 1126.31
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I am one of those (one of the only ones?) who has been a defender of Jackie Gayda. I think she deserved another chance and it was not at all surprising that she screwed up in one match. (Also everyone seems to forget that Linda missed a spot in her first match on a failed dropkick--not as devestating as what Gayda did but no one was up in arms about that.)

OVW seems to like her to some degree, for I think she took Victoria's spot in the roster as the main evil heel woman (although that may be wrong.) Give her another 6 months or more and let's see where she's at. Maybe she'll be ready to come out when the next TE winners are ready to debut, if there even is a female this time.

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#20 Posted on 21.11.02 1231.22
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Maven gave us one of the most memorable spots of the year by eliminating Undertaker from the Royal Rumble. He has made me mark-out, which is much more than I can say for 95% of the roster.

Harvard Chris is absolutely awesome and has a big future in the business.

Nidia rules the universe. She's sexy as hell and a good actress.

Jackie and Linda will return and surprise us all, mark my words. We thought Nidia had been shuffled away permanently and was banished to the realm of eternal suckiness, but she came back with the right skills, look and angle and it rocked our worlds.

Tough Enough is a big-time success, in my opinion.
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